Covid-19 Vs Duterte

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We need mass testing before lifting the quarantine.

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According to a senator, help must also be extended to Filipino PUV and PUJ drivers in the country.

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partida wa pa ni mass testing

Tomas if nag mass testing. Mahug kataw anan ning virusa.

Karon, pangutana, ato testing kit lehitmo ba kini?
If walay standardized testing kit maski sa US, Europe ug South Korea,
kini ato test2x kunuhay ron pargarpar ra ni, pang kolekyon sa mga politiko.

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We need mass testing before lifting the quarantine.

Okay mo kagat ko sa bait nimo.

Hunong na anang FB oi 2020 na para nanas mga gors. 2014 pa ko last suroy diha.

Tanawa ang Italy ug Spain ni balik na ug hinay2x sa normal nga kinabuhi.
Ang Europian Union, labi na ang Nordic Countries nag lockdown ba?
Japan ug South Korea nag lockdown ba? Ki-at lang ning nawng nato.

[Syd_M]

Ah, you want facts? Sure, have some facts, and not the fantasy you conspiracists use.

Spain and Italy are slowly trying to go back to normal? It's not going to be easy, but yes, they're slowly trying. Do you know why? Because as of this writing, Spain has had 174,060 confirmed cases and 18,255 deaths, and Italy has had 162,488 confirmed cases and 21,067 deaths. Do you know what those numbers mean? It means that a significant percentage of their population within the affected areas have already contracted the virus, and since they've gone into extreme lockdown measures to prevent travel between affected areas, they've managed to slow down the spread of the virus a bit because almost everyone that can be infected has been infected. You want the Philippines to follow Spain and Italy's path? Well, that's what we're doing with the lockdown, except without the massive spread and death that Spain and Italy has experienced since we started our lockdown earlier in comparison to theirs.

It's funny that you bring up the Nordic countries specifically. Did they go into lockdown? Well, let's see:

Norway

The Norwegian Directorate of Health introduced a number of measures from Thursday 12 March 2020:

* All educational institutions were closed and organized sports activities were to be discontinued.
* A number of events and businesses were closed, including cultural events, sports events, gyms and swimming pools. All establishments in the hospitality industry such as bars, pubs and clubs other than those serving food were to close, and any establishment serving food would have to ensure that visitors could stay at least 1 meter apart.
* Healthcare professionals working with patient care were prohibited from traveling abroad until 20 April 2020. The ban applied to both business travel and private travel.
* Everyone who had returned from trips outside Sweden and Finland since 27 February were to quarantine, regardless of whether they showed symptoms or not.
* Leisure travel was strongly discouraged. The Directorate discouraged travelling to work unless strictly necessary and encouraged avoiding public transport if possible, as well as avoiding crowded places.
* People were requested not to visit others in institutions with vulnerable groups (the elderly, psychiatry, prison etc.) and generally encouraged to limiting close contact with others.
* The public transport schedule was to run as normal, to ensure that people with critical social functions could get to and from work and be able to distance themselves from each other.

On 16 March, non-residents were banned from entering Norway.

As of 19 March, residents were prohibited from staying in cabins outside their home municipalities, in order to avoid putting strain on rural medical infrastructure. People suspected or confirmed to be infected must follow stricter home isolation rules. The government established fines for people violating home quarantine and home isolation rules or organizing events.

So, partial lockdown. Now, let's look at some other statistics. Total area of Norway: 385,207 km², Population: 5,367,580 (est). Compare to Cebu Province: Total Area: 4,943.72 km², Population: 2,938,982 (est). What does this tell you? That Norway has a lower population density of 13.9/km² compared to 590/km² for Cebu Province. Lower population density means lower potential of disease spread.

Pandemic Stats for Norway: 6,623 confirmed cases and 139 deaths

Denmark (note: this only covers the Denmark mainland, and doesn't include territories like Greenland and the Faroe Islands)

Starting on 13 March 2020, all people working in non-essential functions in the public sector were ordered to stay home for two weeks. In the private sector, employers are urged by the authorities to allow their employees to stay home in the same period and work from there if possible, although this should not affect functions that are essential to the society (such as pharmacy workers and people working with sale of food and maintenance of critical infrastructure). On that same date, all secondary education (like gymnasiums), universities, libraries, indoor cultural institutions and similar places were closed, initially for two weeks. Starting on 16 March, all primary schools, daycare and similar places were also closed for two weeks. Virtual (online) schooling was used to some degree. The municipalities are establishing limited daycare for children where the parents could not stay home and take care of them. Because of the vulnerability of elderly to COVID-19, it was strongly recommended that grandparents should not take care of their grandchildren.

Starting on 18 March at 10:00 AM, a number of further restrictions were activated: it became illegal to assemble more than ten people in public, all shopping centres and stores with close contact such as hairdressers and nightclubs must be closed, restaurants can only serve take-away, and other businesses must ensure that there is enough space between customers. Unlike previous restrictions on the number of people allowed to assemble, the new restrictions are not merely a recommendation, and breaking the new restrictions is associated with fines of DKK1500. On 23 March, it was announced that the above lockdown measures would be extended for a further 2 weeks, and be in place until 13 April.

In late March, authorities acknowledged that the strategy of mitigation had partially worked, but had been less successful than the mass testing in China and South Korea. Efforts were increased for immediate testing (at Novo Nordisk), mass testing and local rapid testing for individuals.

So, they had lockdown. Now, some other statistics. Denmark (mainland) total area: 42,933 km², Population (mainland): 5,822,763 (est), Pop. density: 135.73/km². Again, much lower population density than Cebu Province, but even so, they still went into lockdown.

Pandemic Stats for Denmark: 6,511 confirmed cases and 299 deaths

Finland

On 16 March, the Finnish Government, in cooperation with the President of Finland, declared a state of emergency in the country. A list of measures intended to slow down the spreading of the virus and to protect at-risk groups were implemented in accordance with the Emergency Powers Act (1552/2011), the Communicable Diseases Act (1227/2016), and other legislation. The measures include the closing of schools (excluding early education) and most government-run public facilities, limiting public gatherings, and closing the country's borders. They will be in place until 13 April.

On 20 March, the government announced a €15 billion support package to aid businesses and individuals suffering from the economic slowdown resulting from the virus. This was a €10 billion increase to a previous support package, announced 16 March. Among the presented changes was a 2.6% decrease in employee pension payments until the end of 2020.

On 25 March, the government decided to restrict movement between the Uusimaa region and the rest of Finland. However, people can move between regions due to job requirement or death of a relative. The proposal also does not affect cargo or freight transportation. The changes would be in place until 19 April.

So, partial lockdown. Again, here are some other statistics. Total area: 338,424 km², Population: 5,526,774, Pop. density: 16/km². Very, very low population density, but they still have partial lockdown.

Pandemic Stats for Finland: 3,161 confirmed cases and 64 deaths

Iceland

The response to the pandemic by Icelandic health authorities has focused on early detection and contact tracing and social distancing measures such as a ban on assemblies of more than 20 persons. As a member of the Schengen area, Iceland is restricting unnecessary travel by persons who are not citizens of the EU, the United Kingdom or the EFTA countries into the area but has not made other formal restrictions against international or domestic travel.

On 24 January, the Directorate of Health announced preventive measures to curb the spread of SARS-CoV-2. Passengers arriving at the Keflavík International Airport with signs of respiratory infection and asymptomatic individuals who had been either in Wuhan for the past 14 days were medically assessed at the airport.

From 2 March, healthcare workers in Iceland were being encouraged to avoid travel and to remain in the country.

As of 16 March, no official social distancing measures or limitations or bans on public gatherings are in effect. However, organisers cancelled or postponed a number of upcoming events, including the annual conference of the School of Humanities of the University of Iceland, Hugvísindaþing, which was set to have taken place on 13 and 14 March.

At a press conference on 13 March, it was announced that public gatherings of more than 100 would be banned and universities and secondaries schools closed for four weeks. Later that day, announcements were made that stated or emphasised that:

* panic-buying was unnecessary;
* no shortage of food or medicine was foreseen;
* elementary schools and preschools would not be closed, although restrictions would be in place to maximize social distancing within schools; and that
* all schools in the Reykjavík area would close on 16 March in order to prepare.

The Directorate of Health and The Department of Civil Protection and Emergency Management have jointly launched an official website with the latest information in Icelandic and English.

On 16 March, the supermarket chain Samkaup announced that 27 grocery shops throughout Iceland would have special shopping times for vulnerable members of the public, including the elderly and those with chronic and underlying illnesses. Beginning 17 March, select Nettó and Kjörbúðin locations would reserve the hour from 9 to 10 a.m. for those shoppers at greatest risk of severe complications should they contract COVID-19.

As of 18 March, the whole world is defined as a high risk area. All travel abroad is discouraged and residents in Iceland who are currently abroad are encouraged to return home as soon as possible. Residents in Iceland who arrive from abroad will now go into quarantine.

On 21 March, a stricter ban on public assemblies was put in place in Vestmannaeyjar. Assemblies there with more than 10 persons would now be prohibited. A still stricter ban was announced for the Húnaþing vestra district, where all inhabitants have been ordered to stay at home except to buy necessities.

From 00:00 on 24 March, a nation-wide ban on public assemblies over 20 took effect. All swimming pools, museums, libraries and bars closed, as did any businesses requiring a proximity of less than 2 m (hairdressers, tattoo artists, etc.).

So, no lockdown, but enforced social distancing, ban on mass assemblies, and ramped up testing (more tests per capita than any other country). Despite that, due to the low population size and high volume of testing, Iceland has one of the highest infection rates in the world: 1 case per 213 inhabitants. Other statistics: Total area: 102,775 km², Population: 364,134, Pop. density: 3.4/km²

Pandemic Stats for Iceland: 1,720 confirmed cases and 8 deaths

Now, let's have a look at the one Nordic country that didn't impose any mandatory restrictions, opting instead for encouraging right behavior and creating social norms.

Sweden

On 10 March, responding to indications of community transmission, the Public Health Agency advised everyone with respiratory infection, even mild ones, to refrain from social contacts where there is a risk of spreading the virus, in private as well as working life. They also ask health care staff working with risk groups, including nursing homes, not work if they have any symptoms of respiratory infection. Relatives of elderly should also avoid unnecessary visits at hospitals and in facilities for elderly, and never visit if there are any respiratory symptoms. On 16 March, the agency of Sweden recommended that people over 70 should limit close contact with other people, and employers should recommend their employees work from home. The following day, the agency recommended that secondary schools and universities use distance learning, with schools following suit all over the country.

On 11 March, the same day as the first Swedish death to COVID-19, the Swedish government passed a new law, limiting freedom of assembly by temporarily banning all gatherings larger than 500 people, with threat of fine and prison. The ban will apply until further notice. On 27 March the government announced that gatherings of more than 50 people were banned.

Again, on the 11th of March, the karensdag, the unpaid first day of sick leave, was temporarily discontinued in an effort to encourage people to stay home if they were experiencing symptoms that are consistent with COVID-19.[54] On 13 March, the government decided to temporarily abolish the demand of a doctor's certificate for 14 days for people staying home from work due to illness (i.e. sick pay period). Previously a doctor's certificate was needed after seven days.

On 24 March 2020, the government introduced new restrictions to bars and restaurants requiring all service to be table service only. Restaurants were also recommended increase the space between the tables. Venues that do not adhere to the new restrictions could be shut down.

Beginning on 1 April, all private visits to nursing homes was outlawed by the government. Many municipality had already forbidden such visits. The national ban was however general, and those in charge of the facilities would be able to make exceptions under special circumstances, provided that the risk of spread of the virus was low.

Before we get into how they did, let's first have some stats. Total area: 450,295 km², Population: 10,333,456, Pop. density: 23/km². Very low population density, like the other Nordic countries, right? But unlike the others, they didn't impose any lockdown, partial or otherwise, but since the population density is so low, it should be alright, right? Well, let's see how they did.

Pandemic Stats for Sweden: 11,445 confirmed cases and 1,033 deaths

Oh, look at that! Looks like not implementing mandatory social distancing and quarantines didn't work out quite so well for them.

As for Korea and Japan, that's also an interesting story, which I'll get to later in another post. Korea in particular was actually a lot more strict and controlling with their quarantines than even the Philippines is. I'm talking about things like tracing your cell phones and credit cards to find your travel history and contacts, mandatory installing of an app to your smartphone that will notify authorities if you leave your house or quarantine area, large-scale CCTV monitoring, etc. Interesting stuff, really.

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Ah, you want facts? Sure, have some facts, and not the fantasy you conspiracists use.

Spain and Italy are slowly trying to go back to normal? It's not going to be easy, but yes, they're slowly trying. Do you know why? Because as of this writing, Spain has had 174,060 confirmed cases and 18,255 deaths, and Italy has had 162,488 confirmed cases and 21,067 deaths. Do you know what those numbers mean? It means that a significant percentage of their population within the affected areas have already contracted the virus, and since they've gone into extreme lockdown measures to prevent travel between affected areas, they've managed to slow down the spread of the virus a bit because almost everyone that can be infected has been infected. You want the Philippines to follow Spain and Italy's path? Well, that's what we're doing with the lockdown, except without the massive spread and death that Spain and Italy has experienced since we started our lockdown earlier in comparison to theirs.

It's funny that you bring up the Nordic countries specifically. Did they go into lockdown? Well, let's see:

Norway


So, partial lockdown. Now, let's look at some other statistics. Total area of Norway: 385,207 km², Population: 5,367,580 (est). Compare to Cebu Province: Total Area: 4,943.72 km², Population: 2,938,982 (est). What does this tell you? That Norway has a lower population density of 13.9/km² compared to 590/km² for Cebu Province. Lower population density means lower potential of disease spread.

Pandemic Stats for Norway: 6,623 confirmed cases and 139 deaths

Denmark (note: this only covers the Denmark mainland, and doesn't include territories like Greenland and the Faroe Islands)


So, they had lockdown. Now, some other statistics. Denmark (mainland) total area: 42,933 km², Population (mainland): 5,822,763 (est), Pop. density: 135.73/km². Again, much lower population density than Cebu Province, but even so, they still went into lockdown.

Pandemic Stats for Denmark: 6,511 confirmed cases and 299 deaths

Finland


So, partial lockdown. Again, here are some other statistics. Total area: 338,424 km², Population: 5,526,774, Pop. density: 16/km². Very, very low population density, but they still have partial lockdown.

Pandemic Stats for Finland: 3,161 confirmed cases and 64 deaths

Iceland


So, no lockdown, but enforced social distancing, ban on mass assemblies, and ramped up testing (more tests per capita than any other country). Despite that, due to the low population size and high volume of testing, Iceland has one of the highest infection rates in the world: 1 case per 213 inhabitants. Other statistics: Total area: 102,775 km², Population: 364,134, Pop. density: 3.4/km²

Pandemic Stats for Iceland: 1,720 confirmed cases and 8 deaths

Now, let's have a look at the one Nordic country that didn't impose any mandatory restrictions, opting instead for encouraging right behavior and creating social norms.

Sweden


Before we get into how they did, let's first have some stats. Total area: 450,295 km², Population: 10,333,456, Pop. density: 23/km². Very low population density, like the other Nordic countries, right? But unlike the others, they didn't impose any lockdown, partial or otherwise, but since the population density is so low, it should be alright, right? Well, let's see how they did.

Pandemic Stats for Sweden: 11,445 confirmed cases and 1,033 deaths

Oh, look at that! Looks like not implementing mandatory social distancing and quarantines didn't work out quite so well for them.

As for Korea and Japan, that's also an interesting story, which I'll get to later in another post. Korea in particular was actually a lot more strict and controlling with their quarantines than even the Philippines is. I'm talking about things like tracing your cell phones and credit cards to find your travel history and contacts, mandatory installing of an app to your smartphone that will notify authorities if you leave your house or quarantine area, large-scale CCTV monitoring, etc. Interesting stuff, really.

El Oh El. Where is your facts there? You are only talking about demographics there bud. Stop embarrassing yourself copy-pasting what seems to be a post coming from wiki. Let's tackle the issue not how a country is doing its own way of quarantine. Every country at this point is forced to quarantine due to the fact the media had told them to do so. A fabricated pandemic is not a dubious plan given that NPCs, like yourself, are easily swayed via social media.

So, would you care to enlighten me on why Italy and Spain are opening up really early and why Sweden, AUS & Germany haven't bothered locking down amid the "imagined" pandemic?

Also care to explain this? (protip: you can't)











Let's hear you talk with sense instead of getting angry at me. Each and every jpg above is basically everywhere now and "experts" are having a hard time clearing up this mess. Btw, coronavirus has been on planet earth since Moses so there's no excuse for you to say that this virus came exclusively from Wuhan. More evidence have surfaced that points to the US being responsible for altering its genome.

Also, like you, I'll grab an excerpt from Dr. John Brooks of CDC:

80% of COVID-19 cases are mild or moderate and most patients recover spontaneously, especially middle aged and younger people. There is no meaningful difference in distribution between the sexes.

...the latest case fatality estimate at 0.5% to 3.5%, which is considerably higher than seasonal flu, but might well drop as more mild cases are detected and added to the denominator.

For now, death rates top 5% in adults over 60 years old and climb further with increasing age, approaching 16% in people 80 years or older.

And a different take from Dr. Ralph Baric an epidemiology professor at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill:

Patients with hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and chronic respiratory illness are at increased risk. The ultimate cause of death is acute respiratory distress syndrome.

An intriguing possibility is that angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors might help. Hypertension is a known risk factor for severe infection; the virus makes use of ACE receptor pathways to infect airway epithelial cells; and there have been reports of ACE inhibitors having effect against the virus that caused severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), another coronavirus outbreak in 2003.

In other words, only closet psychopaths love this pandemic to immortalize itself. I bet you are one of the 1% elite or prominent socialites here in Cebu City if prolonged lockdown won't affect you financially. If that's so, here's bad news for you: You are going to self-isolate much further because by the end of this month, everything will start to slowly go back to normal.


PS. You don't have to explain to me about SK and JP. I know what they are doing I have personal acquaintances there who are still working their asses off in spite of the pandemic scare.

[Syd_M]

First of all, demographics? Do you even know what that word means? Because you're using it wrong. Maybe you should stick to words within your grade level, like that internet speak that trolls and children use. It also seems you're unable to recognize facts, and that you appear to lack reading comprehension. I'll try to explain, but since I have no experience teaching grade school or a special education class, I might not get through to you. But that's fine.

You seem to think Italy and Spain are "opening up" early. Well, it looks like you don't understand the concept of time, either. Here's what you don't understand: Italy and Spain aren't "opening up" early, they're doing it late. You think they're doing it early because for us here in the Philippines, it's still the early stages yet, so you assume the same is true everywhere else. But in case you haven't looked at a map before, Italy and Spain are different countries. They're not the Philippines, and the track of the virus in their respective countries didn't happen at the same time as the Philippines. It wasn't even the same in either country.

Now, for the other countries you mentioned. I already explained how Sweden's lack of mandatory isolation resulted in an infection rate proportionally larger than in other countries, when accounting for population, so we'll skip that. For Germany, you seem to think they haven't gone into lockdown or quarantine. Well, it's clear you're ignorant and uninformed. Here's an abbreviated timeline:

On 16 March, the state of Bavaria declared a state of emergency for 14 days and introduced measures to limit public movement and provide additional funds for medicine supplies. Bavarian minister president Markus Söder ordered closures of all sports and leisure facilities starting on 17 March. Restaurants were ordered to limit their dine-in opening hours to before 3:00 pm; to ensure a minimum distance of 1.5 metres between guests; and to accommodate a maximum of 30 guests. Supermarkets, chemist's shops, banks, pet shops, and all business that sell essential basic needs are allowed extended opening times including on Sundays, while non-essential shops are to be closed at all times. After public outrage over flights from Iran still landing in Germany without tests or quarantine, the German Ministry of Transport stopped all flights from Iran and China. Italian scientists, including virologist Roberto Burioni, warned Germany against underestimating the danger and the director of Eurac Research said Germany needed a lockdown or the numbers would go out of control. In the evening, Merkel announced measures similar to Bavaria for the entire country, agreed on by all federal states and the ruling coalition. This also includes a prohibition on travelling in coaches, attending religious meetings, visiting playgrounds or engaging in tourism.

On 22 March, the government and the federal states agreed for at least two weeks to forbid gatherings of more than two people and require a minimum distance of 1.5 metres (4 ft 11 in) between people in public except for families, partners or people living in the same household. Restaurants and services like hairdressers were to be closed. Individual states and districts were allowed to impose stricter measures than these. Saxony joined Bavaria and the Saarland in prohibiting residents from leaving their dwellings except for good reasons, which are similar to the ones in the other two states; outdoor exercise is permitted under the new rules only alone or in groups of maximal five members of the same household.

For an overview of the measures taken by individual German states:

State measures to impose social distancing in the federal system of Germany, starting on 23 March 2020, and ongoing as of 1 April 2020.
■ All German states have enacted prohibition of assembly of more than two people not from the same household, restrictions on various types of businesses, and other measures.
■ Additionally, six states have enacted a curfew, with exceptions for the workforce, essential shopping, and various other activities.
■ Additionally to the prohibition of assembly, two states have enacted an entry ban for non-residents (including German citizens from other states), with exceptions for the workforce.

So not a total lockdown like the Philippines, but still isolation, social distancing, and overall drastically reduced activity. Even with that, they still took an economic hit.

On 23 March, the government decided on a financial aid package totalling around 750 billion Euros taking on new debt for the first time since 2013, to mitigate the damage of the coronavirus pandemic on the economy.

and

As of April 1, almost half a million companies in Germany sent their workers on a government-subsidized short-time working scheme known as Kurzarbeit.

So why isn't their pandemic containment response similar to the Philippines? Simple: because they're not the Philippines. They have vastly greater mass testing capabilities, a more robust healthcare infrastructure, and a pandemic response plan that's been around for years.

And Australia? Like Germany, it's made up of individual states, and each state has their own level of response. In addition to the states' mandates, the national government also had the following:

On 18 March 2020, a human biosecurity emergency was declared in Australia owing to the risks to human health posed by the COVID-19 pandemic, after a National Security Committee meeting the previous day. The Biosecurity Act 2015 specifies that the Governor-General may declare such an emergency exists if the Health Minister (currently Greg Hunt) is satisfied that "a listed human disease is posing a severe and immediate threat, or is causing harm, to human health on a nationally significant scale". This gives the minister sweeping powers, including imposing restrictions or preventing the movement of people and goods between specified places, and evacuations. The Biosecurity (Human Biosecurity Emergency) (Human Coronavirus with Pandemic Potential) Declaration 2020 was declared by the Governor-General, David Hurley, under Section 475 of the Act.

On 19 March, Morrison announced that Australia would be closing its borders to all non-residents and non-Australian citizens from 9:00 pm on 20 March. The Australian Government had imposed the ban in coordination with New Zealand, which imposed a ban on most non-residents and non-citizens from midnight on 19 March.

A social distancing rule of 4 square metres (43 sq ft) per person in any enclosed space was imposed by the Australian Government on 21 March. On 22 March 2020, the State governments of New South Wales and Victoria imposed a mandatory closure of non-essential services, while the Governments of Western Australia and South Australia imposed border closures.

On 22 March, Morrison announced a closure of places of social gathering, including registered and licensed clubs, licensed premises in hotels and bars, entertainment venues, including but not restricted to cinemas, casinos and nightclubs and places of worship. Cafes and restaurants are to remain open, but limited to takeaway only. Similarly, enclosed spaces for funerals and things of that nature will have to follow the strict four square metre rule. These measures are effective immediately at midday, 23 March. He stated that he would like the schools to remain open but parents could keep children at home if they wished to.

Are there countries not doing anything against the Covid-19 pandemic? Yes, there are, such as Brazil, among others. Why? The answer is simple: you're not the only ***** in the world, and some of them hold government positions.

Oh, and those little screenshots you so happily included, thinking I couldn't explain it? That's cute, but didn't I tell you not to assume that other people were as stupid as you are? The explanation is simple: that's how statistics work. You take a given data set, then, by matching and comparing against other data sets, you extrapolate the information. Those numbers for the flu that you so proudly posted a few pages back? The same thing was done with that. That's exactly how statistics work, and it's why statisticians are sometimes able to extrapolate into the future, as long as the data is there. I know you don't understand it, but that doesn't matter — your understanding is irrelevant.

Anyway, it's clear that you simply don't get it at all. You seem to think that people want to "immortalize" the pandemic or something, or whatever stupid idea gets into your head. But despite all the *****ic conspiracy theories idiots like you have, one thing is certain: this is a virus. It is unthinking, unfeeling. It cannot be reasoned with or bargained with. It doesn't care about whatever wild fantasies you may have about it. It is a force of nature. You can come up with whatever fever dream you want, it doesn't matter. Because you are irrelevant. Your fantasies won't affect it. Your wild imaginings have no impact. You are nothing in the face of this pandemic, and that scares you. So instead of doing something useful, you deny it, like a child covering his ears thinking that if he doesn't hear it, it doesn't exist.

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I love this, I can understand everything you're saying. No big words like normies or autistic incels, or btfo or npc

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The explanation is simple: that's how statistics work. You take a given data set, then, by matching and comparing against other data sets, you extrapolate the information. Those numbers for the flu that you so proudly posted a few pages back? The same thing was done with that. That's exactly how statistics work, and it's why statisticians are sometimes able to extrapolate into the future, as long as the data is there. I know you don't understand it, but that doesn't matter — your understanding is irrelevant.

> Talk of statistics
> No statistics shown only population density and land area.
> Still not explaining why Western doctors have dissimilar take vs ours.
> Thinks there is a standardized testing for Covid19.
> Can't explain why Europe besides Spain, Hungary and Italy aren't locking down like the rest of us.
> Calls me a conspiracy theorists when he is experiencing the conspiracy he is so against of.
> Can't post dissenting facts about the virus only a descriptive timeline.
> Can't even figure out that this virus is spread all over the world since before civilization even began.
> Gets emotional for no reason.
> Uses a dummy account to like his own post.

Yep. Pure NPC right there trying to sound smart in a public forum.

[Syd_M]

Oh, that's hilarious! You don't even understand the posts you were responding to. Oh, my sweet summer child, thanks for the laugh. It's adorable how you think posting your idiotic conspiracy theories somehow refutes anything I said. Well now, I guess I'll let you go back to playing. Have fun, child.