RELIGION

[MrBiddle]

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murag libog naman kayu diwi.. na wa na sa topic


murag CHRISTIANITY man that came first before any churches......

CHRISTIANITY is a relationship with GOD. and this is the only way to save us,, not by churches, tradition, niether by good deeds nor by yourself but in Him alone.

Bitaw.

[mannyamador]

ah.. gamay lng ha. it's not really the church who decided on what books should be placed on the bible. maybe sa Catholic Bible. Obvious.

The canon (or listing) of the Catholic Bible was the ONLY accepted canon of the Bible until Martin Luther and the Reformation. Luther changed the canon, but on he still based his canon on the Catholic one and even acknowledged his debt to the Church. Ultimately, even the Protestant Bibles have as their basis the authority of the Catholic Church in knowing what books to place in the New Testament. That is why the Protestant churches actually contradict themselves in this regard.

CHRISTIANITY is a relationship with GOD. and this is the only way to save us,, not by churches, tradition, niether by good deeds nor by yourself but in Him alone.

That's not what Jesus said. He specifically stated that faith alone (even if it was faith in Him) will NOT suffice. And Jesus founded a Church and gave it a mission, Now why would He have done that if it were not essential for salvation?

On faith and good wordsk please see below:

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of
heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.
Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in
your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do
mighty deeds in your name?' Then I will declare to them solemnly,
'I never knew you. Depart from me, you evildoers.'..."

and James 2:14-26

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does
not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister has
nothing to wear and has no food for the day, and one of you says to
them, "Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well," but you do not give
them the necessities of the body, what good is it?
So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Indeed someone might say, "You have faith and I have works."
Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate
my faith to you from my works. You believe that God is one. You do
well. Even the demons believe that and tremble.

Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless?
Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son
Isaac upon the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works,
and faith was completed by the works. Thus the scripture was fulfilled
that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as
righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God." See how a
person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same
way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she
welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route?
For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

God bless!

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[noelkoi]

@mannyamador intsakto ka bro... pero what they are battling here about is the the traditions of certain religion which does not make sense at all.

[MrBiddle]

@mannyamador intsakto ka bro... pero what they are battling here about is the the traditions of certain religion which does not make sense at all.

The fight has been called off. We now want this to become a semi-ecumenical thread!

Sir, it does make sense. We want to have a deeper and profound understanding because as Meganda has stated early in the discussion the FAITH is futile if it is defiled by errors and the wormwood can equally be as devastating as Communism or Aetheistic Materialism.

[potterboy]

thats what im trying to bring up. but it seems some here are going for the dcotor's degree. nyahahahahaha!

its not really the church that matters. but your faith. rituals and crying alone wont do. being what what GOD wants us to be, will.

God never pointed out directly that he built any so-so church to save mankind. man did.

CHRISTI. A. N.:

without CHRIST I Am Nothing.

without the church, wud it change?

[tolstoi]

the world will end but still the debate on religion prevails..unless God Himself decides on who's aspect is right or not right...

[MrBiddle]

the world will end but still the debate on religion prevails..unless God Himself decides on who's aspect is right or not right...

He already has. It's a matter of who's being PUNK'D and who has deeper and more comprehensive understanding.

[tolstoi]

the world will end but still the debate on religion prevails..unless God Himself decides on who's aspect is right or not right...

He already has. It's a matter of who's being PUNK'D and who has deeper and more comprehensive understanding.

blasphemy!..who's aspect do yu think God had decided upon?..yours?? lolz..

[s.n.m.p.]

No salvation outside the church...... kurog ko. oh no! i can never be saved! holy cow batman!

If this is the church people believe in, then i certainly don't want to be it.Â* Vengeful, Selfish and Self-Righteous.Â* By the way, has the Catholic Church asked for forgiveness regarding the atrocities it commited during the medieval ages and during the inquisition?Â* Â*

We have our own beliefs.Â* As a Catholic, that is what we believe.Â* Outside the Church there is no salvation.Â* Deal with it.Â* Truth is absolute.Â* For us the truth is only what is taught in the Catholic Church.Â*

Now we do not say that those who are NOT Catholics are bad per se.Â* What we are trying to say is that you might be a good person but you have no vehicle for salvation because in the first place you dont ride it.

We are mot self righteous.Â* While we are Catholics, we do not claim that we will be saved automatically.Â* We have to work on it.Â* If we sin and be separated from God's grace we also cannot be saved.

I dont want to ostracize people that dont belong to RCC.Â* Its your choice.Â* We are just sending you our warning from our perspective.

[MrBiddle]

blasphemy!..who's aspect do yu think God had decided upon?..yours?? lolz..

The ones who are consecrated in truth through the message that they preached because of the powerful prayer of Christ. (Jn 17: 19 - 20 ) Christ is the True Vine (1) not any "church" that claims so and we are the branches (2) Paul assures that that we who are believers are all members of God's household build on the foundation of the apostles with Christ himself as the Chief Cornerstone (3) The apostleship of Peter and the other presbyters were fastened like a peg. No one can claim succession to it Therefore there is no room for any Christian denomination to CLAIM to be the One True Mystical Body of Christ Paul's assurance goes for all of us believers irregardless of what banner we wave.

1) Jn 15: 5, Deut. 32: 4, 15, 2) Eph. 2: 18 - 22, 3) Matt. 16: 18, 1 Pet. 5: 1, 1 Pet. 2: 4 - 8