Why did God create evil?

FK · 10-02-2003, 08:12 AM

OT: do you really want to see the devil gareb? are you sure?

**gareb** · 10-02-2003, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by FK

OT: do you really want to see the devil gareb? are you sure?

unfortunately, the correlation bewteen death and seeing the devil cannot be well estalished, FK.

FK · 10-02-2003, 05:12 PM

OT: but if you were given a chance to see the devil.. and bring you... would you?

**gareb** · 10-02-2003, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by FK

OT: but if you were given a chance to see the devil.. and bring you... would you?

sure. yet it is quite hard to percieve a personification of an absolute concept, much less an ethereal object based on an abstract fact.

**sexy23** · 10-02-2003, 09:22 PM

!
so as to give spice to our lives!;p

**StillWater** · 10-03-2003, 11:05 PM

To determine wat is truly good. I guess its two way,....good begets evil, evil begets good. Without one, the other ceases to exist.

**Brahman** · 10-04-2003, 05:46 AM

We can never say it is, unless you have facts and evidence in written...

**gareb** · 10-04-2003, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Brahman

We can never say it is, unless you have facts and evidence in written...

what kidn of facts and evdidences do we need? perhaps it is all here, yet we fail to see because we are too preoccupied with the mundane.

**JawBreaker** · 10-04-2003, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by FK

God just give us free will... coz we wanted it. And the devil's strategy is to let people think God doesn't exist. and slowly the devil is achieving that.

where did you get that

we ask for it

**[DSX]** · 10-04-2003, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by gareb

question: is 'freedom' then worth it? god, in his immense and unlimited capabilities will not be tied to this dilemma. he can create a perfect world and a perfect human society ( utopia ) where there is no suffering and all that. but he did not. is his knowledge then limited? freedom, if taken in this context, is the ability to chose evil over good. yet a perfect society does not need freedom as evil is non-existent.

FYI He did create a perfect world. does "eden" ring a bell? It is through man's fall that destroyed that perfect world. Yeah I'm taking this from the Bible and since you do not believe in it nor believe in God.. I think this doesn't make sense to you.

it will not be. utopia is free from evil, no manipulation, no opression, no boundaries, no evil. god (if he exists ) could have easily done that. but as it appears, he did not.

please refer above.

cors not. then again, i could have not have known for sure that my offspring would commit the crime. but god, in his omniscience, does. and he has all the power to change this as he is omnipotent. he is bound to change it because he is omni-benevolent and would not permit evil to befall.

evil as the absence of god is unapplicable as god is suppose to be omni-present.

i tried to explain this somewhere in this topic. kaw nalang pangita kay kapoy na search hehehe

yet evil is here despite his omniscience, omnipotence,omni-benevolcence and omni-presence.

it is then either that

he did not forsee it, or that he did but he cannot do anything about it, or that he did and permitted it, negating his being "all good",or that he is not present at all times...

or perhaps, such being does not really exist at all.

my 69 centavos.

IMO being omniscient doesn't mean you can do EVERYTHING. even God cannot make Himself turn into pure human coz that would make Him no longer God. by being omniscient He can only know what will happen if you do this or you do that. What you are talking about is controlling man.. and God can't do that because he gave us freewill.

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