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  1. #361

    kanus a man ang rally/motorcade pdung LTO? mas maayo kung tanang mga modified nga mga broom2 ang mangapil..... nya mag hubo mag drive... murag oblation ride to LTO.... hahahaha3....

    ikaw mag una boy ha?

  2. #362
    gud am mga bro!!!!!!!! hot ice abigado ka!!!!!!!!! or nka kaila abogado may ikaw nlang ang himoon leader para sa protest!!!!!! suporta me nmo!!!!!!!!!!!! hot ice!!!!!!! naa lang ko pangutana ky nag libog ko!!!!!!! kanang bag o na balaod sa LTO d i meaning dli na cia as in balaod pariha anang mga constitution? cla cla ra di mga taga LTO ang mag mugna ana !!!!!!!!!!!!! meaning wla na cia ni agig senado? so meaning pwede buk on na ila g himo?

  3. #363
    mga bro looya nato ani oi mga nag upgrade sa motor!!!!!!!!!! mura man noon ta ani mga criminal!!!!!!!!! taas kaau a2 liog tan aw sa unahan og wla ba checkpoint. mga bro may pa mag pa tabang ta ni atty. ruffel banyok aning ato nga problema,!!!!!!!!!!!!!! adto ta dyhf i'm sure tabagan jud ta ani

    para sad air ni a2 problem btaw aron ka2 wla kahibalo nga mga motorista makahibalo.

  4. #364
    nakapost man d ay sya sa sunstar... maayo... pero naa man sa balaud d ay na ang LTO ra sad and mo approve ug naa ka ilis sa imo motor... i think ang mga taga LTO dapat moadto sa mga namaligya ug mga parts then ila tanawn unsa dapat pwede ilis sa mga motor... like rims, atak sad ug mag-ilis ka from stock then stock nasad... ayahay kay surplus ani... hehehehe

    before ta sila implement ani ila ta klarohon na klaro na sa mga nag motor ug mga namaligya ug motor parts... halata ra kaayo na pangwarta ra ila gusto...

  5. #365
    Quote Originally Posted by sajinroh View Post
    buotan nga bata... pero sayop gihapon ky:

    1.) "any modification to original design" man ang gi-state! so dili gihapon makaluwas nimu imong katarungan kung pilosopo nga enforcer na mudakop nimu... not everybody is as "open-minded" (so you say) as you are..

    2.) The mentality is so "for compliance only". Is it only the law that kept you from doing these things? I mean, if dili dakpon ok ra? So things like safety and being sensitive to the public never occurred to you? Then you can't talk about the AO being right.

    Bitaw bro, i salute you. Sa ako tan-aw, murag ikaw ra jd pro sa AO dri... if naa man gani lain, la ko kabantay... Di ko ka-dare ana imo gibuhat oi...
    bitaw bro.. Pro jud si giddyboy ani nga AO kay connected man gud iyang negosyo sa LTO ug CITOM..

  6. #366
    Quote Originally Posted by sajinroh View Post
    buotan nga bata... pero sayop gihapon ky:

    1.) "any modification to original design" man ang gi-state! so dili gihapon makaluwas nimu imong katarungan kung pilosopo nga enforcer na mudakop nimu... not everybody is as "open-minded" (so you say) as you are..

    2.) The mentality is so "for compliance only". Is it only the law that kept you from doing these things? I mean, if dili dakpon ok ra? So things like safety and being sensitive to the public never occurred to you? Then you can't talk about the AO being right.

    Bitaw bro, i salute you. Sa ako tan-aw, murag ikaw ra jd pro sa AO dri... if naa man gani lain, la ko kabantay... Di ko ka-dare ana imo gibuhat oi...
    please read again my post, and the posts i made earlier. halata kaayo nga u haven't been reading comprehensively.

    did u even read my post nga imong gi-quotan? take note sa "before and after" nako nga mga statements.

    u didn't get my point. yes im pro AO, but what i earlier said is to enumerate unta letter d, what are the modification violations para ma klaro ky its just too vague to comprehend.

    also, what im saying is ky kbaw na man ta unsay mga modifications nga POSIBLE ma dakpan ka, we should at least avoid them AS OF THE MEANTIME ky the letter d is still under debate, protest and complaints have been lodged w/c are all still in process.

    that's how to be open-minded about it and using common sense coz there's nothing u can do about it AS OF NOW other than complain or make some protest. that's the reality we have to accept BUT act on it reasonably and w/ practicality.

    and when i speak of "compliance" pre, it is compliance to the regulations and safety issues, and that already includes sensitivity to the public.

    as of now, and im sure u already know about it, some changes are CLEARLY okay like:

    - changing your side mirrors to smaller one but not to the extent it hampers ur vision rear-wise.
    - lowered but not halata nga super-lowered.
    - replacing OEM bulb w/ 30% or 50% Xenon.
    - change color, change engine, change chassis, but has proper LTO/TMG docs.
    - change tailpipe pero kanang compliant ug dili saba (not all aftermarket tailpipes are loud u know)
    - change shock absorbers pero has to be compliant (this doesn't include changing from non-mono to mono)

    AND PLS NOTE that im not only talking about modifications but the entire AO as a whole from a to e. asa naman toh ang nireklamo dre sa slippers? asa naman toh ang nireklamo sa helmet?

    ug kinsa toy niingon nga connected ko sa LTO, well, i'm not. what i mean that i've been transacting sa LTO for a long time already is kana bang renewal nako sa rehistro ug licensya bah...every year na nko ginabuhat since i was 18 yrs old bah.

    ug karon negosyante na hinuon ko ug towing ani...toinks!
    Last edited by giddyboy; 09-18-2008 at 11:14 AM.

  7. #367
    giddiboy, ug mag ilis ko ug rims ba from stock to zipp na rims... pwede ra ba?

  8. #368
    "as of now, and im sure u already know about it, some changes are CLEARLY okay like:

    - changing your side mirrors to smaller one but not to the extent it hampers ur vision rear-wise.
    - lowered but not halata nga super-lowered.
    - replacing OEM bulb w/ 30% or 50% Xenon.
    - change color, change engine, change chassis, but has proper LTO/TMG docs.
    - change tailpipe pero kanang compliant ug dili saba (not all aftermarket tailpipes are loud u know)
    - change shock absorbers pero has to be compliant (this doesn't include changing from non-mono to mono) "

    bro ako mag wheels bro ok ra ni?

    "also, what im saying is ky kbaw na man ta unsay mga modifications nga POSIBLE ma dakpan ka, we should at least avoid them AS OF THE MEANTIME ky the letter d is still under debate, protest and complaints have been lodged w/c are all still in process."

    under process so d pa ko madakpan ani bro? by the way im from cebu city.

  9. #369
    Quote Originally Posted by epoyking View Post
    giddiboy, ug mag ilis ko ug rims ba from stock to zipp na rims... pwede ra ba?
    depende sa imong unit pre. kung imoha xrm, so rayos na ang stock. murag dili pa pwede ilisan ug aluminum wheels. ayaw lng sa ron panahona ky hot pa kau na sa dakop rn. kapoy lalis sa CITOM unya if ever. ma cite pka ug "insulting an enforcer" ana.

    huwaton nlng nato unsa unya resulta sa complaints sa taga Manila. in the meantime, i andam lng nya imo wawarts if OK na. if im not mistaken, kng gusto gyud ka karon diha2x mismo, murag knanglan imo pa na ipa process sa LTO for the change. pangutana nlng gyud ug klaro nila...

    btw, it is not LTO who has power over sellers of surplus or aftermarket parts. It is the DTI but of course w/ the coordination of LTO.

    @shogunfreak: yes, i do have a full-face helmet.

    wa ka ka gets pre... im not undermining anyone here. ang pasabot nko nga "dili parehos ninyo ug utok ang tanang motorista" is that some riders don't even want to bother modifying their bike. some riders want to avoid conflict w/ authorities in any way bsan unsa pa na ka vague. some riders dili parehas ka isug ninyo. some riders don't actually own their bikes (basin sa kompaniya ra). some riders vehemently violate all the above regulations from a to e, without even violating letter d. some riders don't even know how to modify their motor, etc etc etc...

    mao na akong pasabot...gets?

    ug dili nlng ta mag pinilosopo, abi ky "any modifications" man ang nka butang, imo nlng pud sabton nga tanan gyud ug walay mga exemptions. any law has exemptions u know. but again, i know letter d is vague.

    anyway, this is an AO, an administrative order from head LTO to their offices nationwide to enforce it. meaning, this is an internal order. we have to understand the nature of this document inorder for us to properly address our complaints to the proper authorities. ky basin ad2 nya reklamo ang uban sa barangay hall, worse, the Congress...who knows? hehe

    @jude86: unfortunately, walay status quo sa AO. meaning, continuing ang dakop basing from the vague letter d.
    Last edited by giddyboy; 09-18-2008 at 11:55 AM.

  10. #370
    Biker's world

    mga bro, naa na result sa seminar ato september 10.... wala man ko nabasa about problem changing the rims... mura ang tire raman kinahanglan dli daw mo touch ang rim sa road... basin naa mas makasabot ninyo... nindot ni na update...

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