Cebu Velez College student killed in clash between Army and rebels

[giddyboy]

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thats what i said, kung dapat rallyhan, dapat jud mo ad2 ka... of course as an adult kibaw naman ka unsay right or wrong dba?

yes, generally, as a "young" adult (18 to early 20's), they should already know what's right and what's wrong. But sometimes, what they think is right is not. Due to youthful idealism and being eager beavers, sometimes their actions are somewhat erratic due to traces of immaturity. Meaning, they still need guidance as students.

That's why it is always the golden rule to seek advise from parents and elders first before friends & classmates, ug dili lng mo desidir ug iyaha lng ug mgpada lng dayon sa peer pressure.

this reminded me of a carabao english, "I TOLD U NOT TO GO TO, U GO TO. NOW LOOK AT."

[GemWArrioR]

mo react ko ani, kung dapat rallyhan dapat jud ka mo apil as a student, like kaliton rag pag taas sa TOFI, pagtaas sa mga misc fees and etc... etc... anything na mo tunob sa katungod sa estudyante kay dapat na batucan kay kung dile mo tingog ang mga estudyante mismo ang iskuylahan mo gara og cge nag pataas sa TOFI, misc fees, and etc... etc...

You mean dapat suwayin ang utos ng mga magulang natin ha. Before mo increase ang tuition ang isang skwelahan, naa yan meeting with the PTA. Increase in tuition is not bad, this is in order to keep up with the prices that are also rising, sa tuition fee, dito nakukuha ang sweldo ng mga GURO natin, sa tuition fee dito nabibili ang mga equipments na kailangan ng skwelahan. My mother is a professor from a University in Cotabato, I know how she felt as a parent. Kung ayaw mo increase ang tuition fee, then it means ayaw mo, ma improve ang iyong skwelahan, yan ba ang ibig mong sabihin, mas lalo mo pababain ang quality ng skwelahan mo. Like you said if KALIT lang ni saka ang Tuition fee and other fees, dapat i daan sa saktong pamamaraan. patawag kayo ng meeting with the PTA with this concern ayaw pataka ug rally.

[radiostar]

You mean dapat suwayin ang utos ng mga magulang natin ha. Before mo increase ang tuition ang isang skwelahan, naa yan meeting with the PTA. Increase in tuition is not bad, this is in order to keep up with the prices that are also rising, sa tuition fee, dito nakukuha ang sweldo ng mga GURO natin, sa tuition fee dito nabibili ang mga equipments na kailangan ng skwelahan. My mother is a professor from a University in Cotabato, I know how she felt as a parent. Kung ayaw mo increase ang tuition fee, then it means ayaw mo, ma improve ang iyong skwelahan, yan ba ang ibig mong sabihin, mas lalo mo pababain ang quality ng skwelahan mo. Like you said if KALIT lang ni saka ang Tuition fee and other fees, dapat i daan sa saktong pamamaraan. patawag kayo ng meeting with the PTA with this concern ayaw pataka ug rally.

sir what the hell are you talking about? dili nako ma keri imong logic. there is no such thing na parents teachers asociation sa among university. na.ay SSC nu.on pero bali walay gamit, kay bisan unsa.on pag defend sa SSC basta gustohon sa skuylahan na mo increase wala jud mahimo, ma.o na needed ang mass action sa mga estudyante para makita na supak jud ang mga estudyante sa kanang pag increase.

kung mag tuition fee increase dapat e consult jud da.an ang estudyante dili diretsohon na e implement diretso, parehas nang IT FEE sa san carlos karon na walay gamit.

and come to think of it, ka dato na anang san carlos ah.

clerico fascismo at its best

[radiostar]

yes, generally, as a "young" adult (18 to early 20's), they should already know what's right and what's wrong. But sometimes, what they think is right is not. Due to youthful idealism and being eager beavers, sometimes their actions are somewhat erratic due to traces of immaturity. Meaning, they still need guidance as students.

That's why it is always the golden rule to seek advise from parents and elders first before friends & classmates, ug dili lng mo desidir ug iyaha lng ug mgpada lng dayon sa peer pressure.

i have to agree to you on this one. yes daghan misguided young adults karon ma.o nang problem. but sometimes we have to break the barriers that is crossing in our path that leads to maturity. pero case to case basis na.

[giddyboy]

kung mag tuition fee increase dapat e consult jud da.an ang estudyante dili diretsohon na e implement diretso, parehas nang IT FEE sa san carlos karon na walay gamit.

and come to think of it, ka dato na anang san carlos ah.

clerico fascismo at its best

IMHO, u r unjustly overusing the term "clerico fascismo" to describe San Carlos University. i hope u r not a fan of Amado Guerrero's (Joma Sison's) book: "Philippine Society and Revolution" coz it seems like u have the same string of thought with his writings.

as if the Communist mass persecution of the foreign clergy in China was not enough, u also want to do it here.

mind u, i respect my alma mater and what u r saying is an insult.

if im not mistaken, kung private school gani, there is no need for the school admin to consult their students about tuition increase. Tuition fees are deregulated. and it is up to would-be students to select which school they would like to enroll. if they find out USC is expensive, then they have lots of other choices which are cheaper. that's how it works w/ private schools.

and it seems u r overly simplifying how the financial affairs of schools work by saying "datu na ang San Carlos". u mean to say datu ang mga pari sa USC?

didn't u see the new buildings in TC? what about the new engineering equipments? haven't u heard of their scholars & working students? what about the maintenance expense? what about the salaries of the teachers and other staff? what about their missionary works?

anyway, this is already OT. ang ma relate ra gyud nato gmay ani is that Rachelle Mae was a nursing student from a private college.

It is sad to know that a high school student funded by our gov't as a scholar ("cream of the crop"), free from tuition, free books, and free allowance, has turned her back from the very institution that molded her into a promising licensed nurse. Just because of peer pressure, just because her mind was poisoned to the point of not heeding her parents' and elders' concern for her safety, thus resulting to her untimely demise.

She could have been our future health secretary u know, or something like that.

[ed168III]

mao ni ang makuha sa mga usyoso.. dedpol jud.. comon ra ni sa mga pinoy!

[radiostar]

IMHO, u r unjustly overusing the term "clerico fascismo" to describe San Carlos University. i hope u r not a fan of Amado Guerrero's (Joma Sison's) book: "Philippine Society and Revolution" coz it seems like u have the same string of thought with his writings.

nope haven't read that book yet.

if im not mistaken, kung private school gani, there is no need for the school admin to consult their students about tuition increase. Tuition fees are deregulated. and it is up to would-be students to select which school they would like to enroll. if they find out USC is expensive, then they have lots of other choices which are cheaper. that's how it works w/ private schools.

hatagan tikag situation, lets say regular student ka, not the brainy type of student pero imo grades igo ra pasar like 2.7 or 2.8 etc... etc... ni skuyla ka hantod ni 2nd year or 3rd year ka, then ni kalit rag tuition fee increase and ang increase kay 30% pajud... mo transfer ka baka na ang imong subjects dile ma credit tanan or worst ang course na imo gi dream kay walay ni offer sa lain skuylahan or bisan flat 1 ka sa imo grado pero pa retakon kag lain na subject even though related pero lahi ang curriculum sa lain skuylahan. and you would just let that happen?

sir mura man kag pari sa san carlos na dile maminaw sa plight sa mga students

and it seems u r overly simplifying how the financial affairs of schools work by saying "datu na ang San Carlos". u mean to say datu ang mga pari sa USC?

not the priests, pero the whole institution itself datu.

didn't u see the new buildings in TC? what about the new engineering equipments? haven't u heard of their scholars & working students? what about the maintenance expense? what about the salaries of the teachers and other staff? what about their missionary works?

ugghh like yeah saw them with my two freakin' two eyes, na ang mga buildings ray naka nindot, how about sa fine arts department na dile sila ka provide og mga equipments, na kami mismo ma pugos og palit para lang maka meet og deadline na wherin dapat ang school mismo mo gasto ana. dile ko engineering ma.o na dile ko ka tubag.

yes i've heard about the working students pero , sak2 man pud na the school pays for your tuition and you work para sa school. ing-ana man ang systema ana dba?

Just because of peer pressure, just because her mind was poisoned to the point of not heeding her parents' and elders' concern for her safety, thus resulting to her untimely demise.

not so fast there mr. giddyboy, how can you say na peer pressure rato kang maemae? heck you don't even know her for god's sake, you haven't met her and mo conclude dayon ka? tsk tsk tsk

[aya_diwata]

yes, generally, as a "young" adult (18 to early 20's), they should already know what's right and what's wrong. But sometimes, what they think is right is not. Due to youthful idealism and being eager beavers, sometimes their actions are somewhat erratic due to traces of immaturity. Meaning, they still need guidance as students.

"I TOLD U NOT TO GO TO, U GO TO. NOW LOOK AT."

Immaturity?

Understanding society.

Class consciousness at an early age.

Believing in collective progress than individualism.

If Rachel could rise from the grave..

so with Edgar Jopson

and Beng Hernandez who chose to get involved though died (in a selfless way) - it's refreshing to read it's called immaturity.

[cottonmouth]

[QUOTE=radiostar;3377601]doing his job by killing innocent activists?

Innocent activist? Is their a word like it? dude, this is an understatement. There is no such thing as an innocent activist when you came from the expensive universities from the big cities. There is no innocence but only plain stupidity.

The innocent are those poor, uneducated farmers in the hinterlands that the NPA's and their political branches are trying to fool with their sugar-coated principles. They are the innocent activist, BUT if you have fooled them and have caused them to fight against the legitimate government, THEN they are a fair game to the military. Now, WHO'S to be blamed?

[giddyboy]

Immaturity?
Understanding society.
Class consciousness at an early age.
Believing in collective progress than individualism.
If Rachel could rise from the grave..
so with Edgar Jopson
and Beng Hernandez who chose to get involved though died (in a selfless way) - it's refreshing to read it's called immaturity.

yes, i said "traces of immaturity"...sorry for the harsh description but that's what i see as a reality and a fact w/ teenagers & young adults. That's Psychology 101 and i don't need to explain all that.

and FYI, "believing" is not the same as "understanding" and "realizing". They "believe" that what is right for them is right. They "believe" that their youthful idealism is the absolute idealism w/o even understanding reality. mao nay problema dha. mao btaw kanang mga teenagers & young adults still need guidance sa ilang mga parents and elders...and even from teachers.

do u think it is right not to heed your parents? u tell me...