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kinsa man pud sa top 5 ang i-trade for russell? chris dunn is a good player, but he is not as good as d'angelo russell. so is buddy hield.

Its a little bit premature to say that Kris Dunn,Buddy Hield or even Jamal Murray is not as good as DAR won't you say?

These kids havent played a single NBA game yet. DAR was also "meh" during his rookie season. 13 points on 40% shooting.

If it was just me, Id take Kris Dunn over him. DAR is a better shooter but Dunn is better pretty much in everything else. He is an elite defender too and has an insane motor. Dunn is also the best point guard in this years draft.

Many fans say DAR is a future superstar, that he is going to become this or that. I would love to be proven wrong because as of now, He is just another young player with tremendous potential but with a questionable mentality.

Question: If we've had the first pick last year, do you think the Lakers will pick KAT? or do you think they had DAR in mind since day 1 and stick with him.

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Its a little bit premature to say that Kris Dunn,Buddy Hield or even Jamal Murray is not as good as DAR won't you say?

These kids havent played a single NBA game yet. DAR was also "meh" during his rookie season. 13 points on 40% shooting.

If it was just me, Id take Kris Dunn over him. DAR is a better shooter but Dunn is better pretty much in everything else. He is an elite defender too and has an insane motor. Dunn is also the best point guard in this years draft.

i was thinking about potential... chris dunn and buddy hield are college seniors. try to look at their stats when they were in their freshman year, then compare that to d'angelo's stats while he was in college.

d'angelo russell 1st year stats: 19.3ppg, 5.7rpg, 5.0apg
buddy hield 1st year stats: 7.8ppg, 4.2rpg, 1.9apg
chris dunn 1st year stats: 5.7ppg, 4.8rpg, 3.2apg

the only player close to russell as a freshman is jamal murray, but russell is a better passer than jamal murray.

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i was thinking about potential... chris dunn and buddy hield are college seniors. try to look at their stats when they were in their freshman year, then compare that to d'angelo's stats while he was in college.

d'angelo russell 1st year stats: 19.3ppg, 5.7rpg, 5.0apg
buddy hield 1st year stats: 7.8ppg, 4.2rpg, 1.9apg
chris dunn 1st year stats: 5.7ppg, 4.8rpg, 3.2apg

the only player close to russell as a freshman is jamal murray, but russell is a better passer than jamal murray.

Its just my opinion, but I totally disagree with this kind of thinking when it comes to drafting a player.

Players improve during the course of their careers. Opportunity,Team,Coaching,System etc. are also big factors.

NBA teams are drafting the current version of these players and not their freshman version. College game is also very restrictive compared to the pace and space style of the pro game. Thats why Russell Westbrook exploded into the NBA bec. his game is more suited for the NBA.

Using 1st year college stats is very unreliable, its not even a good barometer for gauging a players potential for stardom

Draymond Green 1st year stats
3.3 PPG 3.3 RPG 0.8 APG 0.6 SPG 0.2 BPG

Damian Lillard 1st year stats
11.5 PPG 3.9 RPG 2.9 APG 1.1 SPG 0.2 BPG

Russell Westbrook 1st yr stats
3.4 PPG 0.8 RPG 0.7 APG 0.4 SPG 0 BPG

Jimmy Butler 1st yr stats
5.6 PPG 3.9RPG 0.7 APG 0.5 SPG 0.5 BPG

These are just a few examples, I can name a lot more (Olajuwon,Pippen,Drummond,Kawhi etc.)

The point is, potential is overrated. Potential is just potential until a player reaches the expectations or even surpass them.
As of now, id rather have Dunn who has shown a body of work to improve over the course of his career than DAR who has regressed when he entered the NBA.

If DAR becomes a superstar down the line, ill gladly admit im wrong. if that ever happens, I hope he is still with LA LA land.

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Mitch Kupchak told D'Angelo Russell not to worry about trade rumors - Silver Screen and Roll

DAR will not be traded as per GM

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Coach Luke's Press Conference as the 26th Lakers Coach

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Its just my opinion, but I totally disagree with this kind of thinking when it comes to drafting a player.

Players improve during the course of their careers. Opportunity,Team,Coaching,System etc. are also big factors.

NBA teams are drafting the current version of these players and not their freshman version. College game is also very restrictive compared to the pace and space style of the pro game. Thats why Russell Westbrook exploded into the NBA bec. his game is more suited for the NBA.

Using 1st year college stats is very unreliable, its not even a good barometer for gauging a players potential for stardom

Draymond Green 1st year stats
3.3 PPG 3.3 RPG 0.8 APG 0.6 SPG 0.2 BPG

Damian Lillard 1st year stats
11.5 PPG 3.9 RPG 2.9 APG 1.1 SPG 0.2 BPG

Russell Westbrook 1st yr stats
3.4 PPG 0.8 RPG 0.7 APG 0.4 SPG 0 BPG

Jimmy Butler 1st yr stats
5.6 PPG 3.9RPG 0.7 APG 0.5 SPG 0.5 BPG

These are just a few examples, I can name a lot more (Olajuwon,Pippen,Drummond,Kawhi etc.)

The point is, potential is overrated. Potential is just potential until a player reaches the expectations or even surpass them.
As of now, id rather have Dunn who has shown a body of work to improve over the course of his career than DAR who has regressed when he entered the NBA.

If DAR becomes a superstar down the line, ill gladly admit im wrong. if that ever happens, I hope he is still with LA LA land.

of course, there are players that defies their projected potential. a lot of it may also depend on the team they are in... but you can't also say that dunn and hield will be better than d'angelo russell 5 to 10 years from now.

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of course, there are players that defies their projected potential. a lot of it may also depend on the team they are in... but you can't also say that dunn and hield will be better than d'angelo russell 5 to 10 years from now.

Exactly. Thats also true the other way around. We can never tell.

What I can tell is that DAR has questionable maturity and mentality and he is not off to a great start.

anyway, The Lakers are not trading DAR. They've already said it. It was just a what if scenario.

[The_JACKAL]

Who the Lakers should look for with the 32nd pick - Silver Screen and Roll

These are the list of possible players to be drafted by the Lakers for the 32nd pick. Don't really have a lot of information but I believe some of these kids will be drafted late in the 1st round. Hoping we can steal one just like our very own Jordan Clarkson.

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Who the Lakers should look for with the 32nd pick - Silver Screen and Roll

These are the list of possible players to be drafted by the Lakers for the 32nd pick. Don't really have a lot of information but I believe some of these kids will be drafted late in the 1st round. Hoping we can steal one just like our very own Jordan Clarkson.

maayo to si juan hernangomez kung available pa siya sa 32... pero feeling nako basin 1st rounder to siya.

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maayo to si juan hernangomez kung available pa siya sa 32... pero feeling nako basin 1st rounder to siya.

Maau pud iyang scouting report bro duda nako late 1st round guro ni makuha

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On the other side, Mao ni mga teams karon Orlando Magic, Detroit Pistons and the LA Lakers are all among the teams that intend to make a run at Atlanta Hawks big man Al Horford, according to ESPN's Marc Stein.

Is he worth to pursue?