Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[Jhared]

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aw kung mao jud nay imung tan.aw hehehe..imu pud nang opinion.
by the way the Church doesn't teach that contentment is impossible to attain rather, it is attainable through God.
personally i believe in it but not necessarily in a religious notion.. i believe even Atheists can have contentment too..provided that they have good conscience 'cause a good conscience is a grace from God.
by the way, was your lolo also an Atheist?

my lolo was a Roman Catholic, although he was not religious, panagsa rako makakita nya nga mosimba, wala ko kita niya nga nag ampo, and when he was in his deathbed he was just silent,.. he was a simple man who had a simple lifestyle.. a very good example indeed when talking about contentment.. i dunno about you but ive seen contentment in him..

contentment is positive man bai.. refusing to hope because of ill feelings and bitterness is very negative and is something else entirely opposite from contentment.
your late lolo's view was a good example of contentment though.

Contentment is either, positive or negative., contentment for most of the times are borne out from a negative experience, and its up to you to make it positive, contentment is more of a choice, just like happiness is oftentimes.. if you married someone whom you deemed as lesser than your previous ex, it is your choice to whine over it or learn to accept it and be happy, and if one chooses the latter, makaingon pa gihapon ka nga dili gihapon siya kontento sa tinuoray?

which makes your job a perfect one if you love your job. so perfection exist after all..not necessarily based from how most people fantasize about perfection..but how things fit in our lives, but can and will you stay in that state of personal perfection?

which brings me back to my original question which i believe you did not answer.. give that you are already contented with your job and you love everything about it but you see that there's an oppurtunity to increase..would you still take it? or sundogon nimu imung lolo?

i never said my job is perfect,.. and i dont consider it perfect, but i love my job.. bay when i entered this job 5 years ago mao ra gihapon akong position hantod karon, despite recommendations thrown at my table to apply for a higher position, despite me achieving another degree, i decided not to step up, because feeling nko kontento rako sa akong trabaho.. and dili ko ganahan nga ma kwaan akong time for my family,.. so there you go..

probably, but it doesn't rule out the purpose behind sufferings.
honestly, her positivity towards her illness and her peace in the midst of pain was something else to me..i would say inspiring but somewhat more weighted.

speaking of euphoria, 9 years ago, hapit ko namatay tungod sa raptured appendix but there were no euphoric moments..i didn't feel any excitement nor extreme happiness..wasn't scared either..but there were very deep thoughts and regrets.
had i not gone through that particular state i would have missed several significant learnings in life...now i dunno if you'd call that fantasizing or just a habit of connecting the dots but to me it's purpose..and everything was guided..just like evolution(para dili ta off topic Lol)..
i didn't even see it that way back then..'cause all i had were questions..esp with the hospital bills..Lol

sufferings are sufferings.. i know a lot of people nga nausab after they were given a "second" life.. naa sad koy nahibaw-an nga mura ra ug wala.. like i said it's up to us to make out something from it., in my opinion it's just nothing but plain ol' suffering, we all experience suffering, like what they say, life is b*tch haha...

who dies from appendicitis? haha no pun intended, it's a far cry compared to cancer, i bet doctor never told you you had 6 months to live.. that's why you experienced no euphoria whatsoever., but who am i to say? i never experienced any serious illnesses all my life, except atong bata pako naligsan ko ug tricycle, but that was a long time ago, wa sad ko kahinumdum kay nakuyapan man ko.. so no euphoria there...

can you then disprove my assertion of purpose? i have already laid over my points above.. appendicitis wasn't self inflicted..and situation reaching the raptured state was completely out of my ignorance. surely i couldn't be held fully accountable for something i didn't know in the first place.
so it was random, but i've gotten specific results and learnings.

i cant in any way disprove your assertion,. it's as futile as proving the existence of a sigbin, do you know why they can't disprove the existence of the lochness monster? or the bigfoot or the chupacabra? because it doesn't exist in the first place.. more so that what you are asserting is an immaterial concept.. but on the other hand, it's funny when you mentioned appendicitis, because appendices serves no function in our body.. haha..

i don't know if appendicitis is not self-inflicted,. i heard it's because of what we eat.. perhaps you did not intend it, but it's self-inflicted nonetheless..

'cause it's the natural thing to do and like i said, it doesn't have to be an expression of doubt in my God. on the contrary, i am following the process God has laid over under normal circumstances..i'll just leave the unusual things with Him..

haha 'em oldies always say, "aw kung kwaon nata sa ginoo, aw kwaon najud ta".. haha, going to the hospital is like saying, ayaw sa ko kwaa kay di pako ready.. haha.. and if magka leprosy moadto ug doctor, i guess killing a bird and a lamb and sprinkling his blood all over the body is no longer effective, eh? haha, aw leviticus man diay na, i guess di nana applicable karon, sauna cguro effective na.. haha..

why? isn't it possible? after all.. the bible didn't really say that we have to take everything written Literally..hehehe...

haha humor me..

[mann1x]

Kung unsa ang opinyon sa matag usa ato lang i-respeto. Naay motuo sa Bible ug aduna pud motuo sa Science. Everyone is free to choose.

[ericson1129]

Guys naa koy question. Di ba ang Noah's Ark kay naa mana sa Bible? sakong nahebaw.an wala toy Dinosaur nga naka sakay. Pero ni exist sila sa earth diba? since naa man ilang mga fossils.

[slabdans]

Guys naa koy question. Di ba ang Noah's Ark kay naa mana sa Bible? sakong nahebaw.an wala toy Dinosaur nga naka sakay. Pero ni exist sila sa earth diba? since naa man ilang mga fossils.

^^ ayaw nalang kalibog ana

[Jhared]

Guys naa koy question. Di ba ang Noah's Ark kay naa mana sa Bible? sakong nahebaw.an wala toy Dinosaur nga naka sakay. Pero ni exist sila sa earth diba? since naa man ilang mga fossils.

ayaw na'g kalibog salig lang as Ginoo.. tuo nlang..

[_hizuka_]

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Infraction givin to thread starter.

Thank you.

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[*sludge*]

Ambot lang kaha ninyo ha, basta ako gikan kos akong papa ug mama...lain sad kaayu ug gikan sad mo didto?

[noy]

my lolo was a Roman Catholic, although he was not religious, panagsa rako makakita nya nga mosimba, wala ko kita niya nga nag ampo, and when he was in his deathbed he was just silent,.. he was a simple man who had a simple lifestyle.. a very good example indeed when talking about contentment.. i dunno about you but ive seen contentment in him..

Yes i agree with you.. a good example of contentment indeed.
but your lolo was a theist nonetheless and like i said before, the Church teaches contentment can be achieved through God..that does not necessarily mean through religiousity as well.

Contentment is either, positive or negative., contentment for most of the times are borne out from a negative experience, and its up to you to make it positive, contentment is more of a choice, just like happiness is oftentimes.. if you married someone whom you deemed as lesser than your previous ex, it is your choice to whine over it or learn to accept it and be happy, and if one chooses the latter, makaingon pa gihapon ka nga dili gihapon siya kontento sa tinuoray?

i don't know. contentment as defined is "The state of being contented; satisfaction." how can one be contented and dissatisfied at the same time?hehehe..
to be fair, i do see your point. ill feelings and contentment do have a common end which is refusing to take further steps.. but it doesn't mean that the ill feelings would mean contentment because there is no satisfaction in regret or bitterness..

i never said my job is perfect,.. and i dont consider it perfect, but i love my job.. bay when i entered this job 5 years ago mao ra gihapon akong position hantod karon, despite recommendations thrown at my table to apply for a higher position, despite me achieving another degree, i decided not to step up, because feeling nko kontento rako sa akong trabaho.. and dili ko ganahan nga ma kwaan akong time for my family,.. so there you go..

on the contrary which then makes your job perfect for you..

you may be contented for now, but the day is still long my friend..so perhaps
you'll find yourself wanting for more some time in the future..hehehe
or perhaps not..depende ra jud na..
mao ingun ko nga although contentment can only come from God but it doesn't necessarily mean that only theists would find contentment..God's grace knows no boundaries..

so if you are contented then you must have been satisfied with whatever you have right now..most people are having trouble with finding contentment..
i hope you're thankful.

sufferings are sufferings.. i know a lot of people nga nausab after they were given a "second" life.. naa sad koy nahibaw-an nga mura ra ug wala.. like i said it's up to us to make out something from it., in my opinion it's just nothing but plain ol' suffering, we all experience suffering, like what they say, life is b*tch haha...

well just because there are people who did not or just chose not to learn from their mistakes or from this Life's hardships it doesn't mean that sufferings are just plain as they are and without a purpose...

of course you just see it that way and there's nothing wrong with that kay imo man pu na but you can never deny the fact that the best Lessons and learnings we have in this Life comes from those sufferings..diba? how could we learn to pick ourselves up if we hadn't fallen in the first place? mao naka ingun ko nga naay purpose bai..everything is guided..as well as evolution.hehehe

who dies from appendicitis? haha no pun intended, it's a far cry compared to cancer, i bet doctor never told you you had 6 months to live.. that's why you experienced no euphoria whatsoever., but who am i to say? i never experienced any serious illnesses all my life, except atong bata pako naligsan ko ug tricycle, but that was a long time ago, wa sad ko kahinumdum kay nakuyapan man ko.. so no euphoria there...

Lol , ordinary cases of appendicitis siguro kay wala..but with a ruptured case, delikado kaayo na oi..
"A ruptured appendix also may allow bacteria to infect the bloodstream—a life-threatening condition called sepsis "
source: Appendicitis: Gastrointestinal Emergencies: Merck Manual Home Edition
of course the doctor didn't tell me that i have six months to live..'cause i only got less than a day if wala pa ko na operahan..hahaha!
by the way, the pain you experience with a ruptured appendix is unexplainable..
daghan man jud kaayo ko ug tattoo..wala ra ka tunga..
but still..no euphoria like i said earlier.

i cant in any way disprove your assertion,. it's as futile as proving the existence of a sigbin, do you know why they can't disprove the existence of the lochness monster? or the bigfoot or the chupacabra? because it doesn't exist in the first place.. more so that what you are asserting is an immaterial concept..

sigbin, bigfoot and the likes are of different category bai..
wala man tay makita nga basis ana nila intawn other than sa mga isotrya sa katigulangan..Lol ..although there is this speculation nga ang sigbin daw is an asian kangaroo..hahaha..
going back with my point. my point of argument is actually tangible..sufferings are of a purpose through the learnings we get from them..

but on the other hand, it's funny when you mentioned appendicitis, because appendices serves no function in our body.. haha..

apparently, this site would disagree with you..
What is the function of the human appendix? Did it once have a purpose that has since been lost? - Scientific American

i don't know if appendicitis is not self-inflicted,. i heard it's because of what we eat.. perhaps you did not intend it, but it's self-inflicted nonetheless..

perhaps, but like i said earlier, i didn't know better..and besides, people couldn't still find a definite reason for an infected appendix.so...
anyways, self inflicted or not..it taught me a lot of Hard lessons about Life. see? purpose..Lol

haha 'em oldies always say, "aw kung kwaon nata sa ginoo, aw kwaon najud ta".. haha, going to the hospital is like saying, ayaw sa ko kwaa kay di pako ready.. haha..

Gitagaan ta ug kinabuhi sa Ginoo..the least we could do is to take care of ourselves and those around us using the resources and ways that have been provided for us..if di jud ta maayo after exhausting all the natural ways we know..then perhaps it is our time..

and if magka leprosy moadto ug doctor, i guess killing a bird and a lamb and sprinkling his blood all over the body is no longer effective, eh? haha, aw leviticus man diay na, i guess di nana applicable karon, sauna cguro effective na.. haha..

exactly, mao to ang paagi nga gireveal sa una.mankind was just not ready for advanced medication back in the days..
so kung unsay haom sa ilang panahon ug kapasidad..mao ra pud ang i reveal nga process sa Ginoo ngadto sa mga tao..
would you teach calculus to a 1st grader who's brain capacity is only for basic mathematics? of course No..hehe

haha humor me..

i think i should be the one saying that..hahaha

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Guys naa koy question. Di ba ang Noah's Ark kay naa mana sa Bible? sakong nahebaw.an wala toy Dinosaur nga naka sakay. Pero ni exist sila sa earth diba? since naa man ilang mga fossils.

yeah dinos did exist..pero i believe they have already met their extinction long before Noah started walking on earth...
so that explains why they're not on the list..hehehe

[The uncaused cause]

Guys naa koy question. Di ba ang Noah's Ark kay naa mana sa Bible? sakong nahebaw.an wala toy Dinosaur nga naka sakay. Pero ni exist sila sa earth diba? since naa man ilang mga fossils.

alangan bible gud na... hinimo gud na sa mga taw0 nga bulok sauna

[slabdans]

alangan bible gud na... hinimo gud na sa mga taw0 nga bulok sauna

asa man ka mangitag Dinosaur na kahibaw na mosuwat?

ug e discuss sa Ginoo ngadto ni moses ang kabahin sa mga dinosaur, maglabad ang ulo ni moses pag ila sa tanan kalse sa dino's

mag igo nalang gisulti...gihimo ang tanan matang sa hayop, sa yuta, langit, tubig, then after gihimo ang tawo.