Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[Arteezy]

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but not Totally Atheist kay naa pa siya other belief of divinity .. daghan man gud istoria2x .. wa lang ta kabalo sa tinood ...

"Einstein: His Life and Universe," he did find a pantheistic view of God rational. In simple words, pantheism is the belief that everything is God; the universe, nature, beings, and the planets are all the same thing as divinity. Pantheists, however, do not accept the personal, monotheistic God that most religions teach.

everything is god? including sh!t and boogers?

[Jhared]

but not Totally Atheist kay naa pa siya other belief of divinity .. daghan man gud istoria2x .. wa lang ta kabalo sa tinood ...

"Einstein: His Life and Universe," he did find a pantheistic view of God rational. In simple words, pantheism is the belief that everything is God; the universe, nature, beings, and the planets are all the same thing as divinity. Pantheists, however, do not accept the personal, monotheistic God that most religions teach.

I did not say he was an atheist.. again like i said.. he was not a pantheist, at least he said he wasn't sure if he was, what he was though is a follower of Spinoza., here is an excerpt from one of his letters: "We followers of Spinoza see our God in the wonderful order and lawfulness of all that exists"... Pantheism patterned itself from Spinoza's ideas...

Spinoza's god is the natural order of things, the ultimate formula that moves the universe, he never expressed it as a being but as a substance that comprises everything that we see... pantheism on the other hand, they consider this ultimate formula as a divine being, so there's a difference there,.. that's what Einstein expressly separates himself from, that divine implication of the Pantheistic idea...

[slabdans]

feeler sad kaau ka, ikaw ra bay pinaka-minus sa mga theist diri (mo-agree jud imong mga kauban)

dugay ra ko ni-undang og debate ngari.

gihimo ra nakong kataw-anan inyung kulto nga bulok

Lols..tan awa ug kinsa amo gihimong kataw anan

Second unsay tan aw nimo jhared theist? Hahaha pagja toytoy..read back sa kaw awa gi unsa ka niya bag momo

[Arteezy]

Lols..tan awa ug kinsa amo gihimong kataw anan

inyung jesus

[slabdans]

everything is god? including sh!t and boogers?

Unsa naman ni? Abi nako idol nimo si eistein hahah karon murag nisupak naman ka niya

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inyung jesus

Na hala pangugat gyud..para mahimi
Nakang unggoy nga bayot

[Arteezy]

Unsa naman ni? Abi nako idol nimo si eistein hahah karon murag nisupak naman ka niya

sa science, welcome ang mga tawo nga hilig mosupak..


sa religion, sunugon ang mga tawo nga mosupak

[Carnifex]

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[slabdans]

sa science, welcome ang mga tawo nga hilig mosupak..


sa religion, sunugon ang mga tawo nga mosupak

Intawn sad...mao ra gyud tawn na imo sabtan

[noy]

I know coz that's what i found to be true.. so you dont believe in contentment?., you don't believe what your priests tells you about contentment?.. or are you just saying it to win an argument with me?.. believe it or not, there are people who are contented, my late grandpa for example have been selling ice drop for 15 years, nya ang presyo sa iyang ice drop piso lang gihapon, namatay nalang si lolo wala gyud siya nakaginansya sa iyang pamaligya.. and i asked him ngano man wala nimo gi increase ang presyo parihas sa uban?.. he told me nga malingaw naman lang siya magbaligya., said he dont want children to get dissapointed.. i dunno about you but that to me is contentment...
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aw kung mao jud nay imung tan.aw hehehe..imu pud nang opinion.
by the way the Church doesn't teach that contentment is impossible to attain rather, it is attainable through God.
personally i believe in it but not necessarily in a religious notion.. i believe even Atheists can have contentment too..provided that they have good conscience 'cause a good conscience is a grace from God.
by the way, was your lolo also an Atheist?

bitter with life and ill feelings have a past precedent like i said, and because of that it hinders them from reaching out a bit further,.. that's what i wanted to tell you., thus their desire to increase decreases and oftentimes no more.. thus they accept what they have and experience contentment...

contentment is positive man bai.. refusing to hope because of ill feelings and bitterness is very negative and is something else entirely opposite from contentment.
your late lolo's view was a good example of contentment though.

i've grown old enough to know that there is no such thing as a perfect job.. but there is such a thing as loving your job,. just like what Confucius said: "Love your job and you will never have to work a day in your life"..
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which makes your job a perfect one if you love your job. so perfection exist after all..not necessarily based from how most people fantasize about perfection..but how things fit in our lives, but can and will you stay in that state of personal perfection?

which brings me back to my original question which i believe you did not answer.. give that you are already contented with your job and you love everything about it but you see that there's an oppurtunity to increase..would you still take it? or sundogon nimu imung lolo?

that's what we call euphoria bay noy., and it's normal to experience such intense emotion, ikaw bay hapit na mamatay., no pun intended there, but the point is if you are fond of drawing out meaning and purpose from it, then do so if it pleases you...

probably, but it doesn't rule out the purpose behind sufferings.
honestly, her positivity towards her illness and her peace in the midst of pain was something else to me..i would say inspiring but somewhat more weighted.

speaking of euphoria, 9 years ago, hapit ko namatay tungod sa raptured appendix but there were no euphoric moments..i didn't feel any excitement nor extreme happiness..wasn't scared either..but there were very deep thoughts and regrets.
had i not gone through that particular state i would have missed several significant learnings in life...now i dunno if you'd call that fantasizing or just a habit of connecting the dots but to me it's purpose..and everything was guided..just like evolution(para dili ta off topic Lol)..
i didn't even see it that way back then..'cause all i had were questions..esp with the hospital bills..Lol

i know coz i dont believe.

can you then disprove my assertion of purpose? i have already laid over my points above.. appendicitis wasn't self inflicted..and situation reaching the raptured state was completely out of my ignorance. surely i couldn't be held fully accountable for something i didn't know in the first place.
so it was random, but i've gotten specific results and learnings.

yes but you chose to just go to the doctor rather than risk anything and leave it for god to decide..

'cause it's the natural thing to do and like i said, it doesn't have to be an expression of doubt in my God. on the contrary, i am following the process God has laid over under normal circumstances..i'll just leave the unusual things with Him..

haha.. whatever pleases your mind..

why? isn't it possible? after all.. the bible didn't really say that we have to take everything written Literally..hehehe...

[Bhoj747]

Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?...

Job 33:4
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.