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    Quote Originally Posted by McVos View Post
    maayo pa ka bai kay kasabot ka. sa panahon ni mohammad daghan ng mga missionary Christian nya ang monotheism naa na pod. tungod kay kining tribo ni muhammad mga negosyante man ni sila posible kaayo nga adona ni silay contacts w/in chrisianity og posible pod nga kini siya nagtoon sa ebanghelyo.

    posible pod nga katong anghel nagpa gabriel gabriel pero sa tinood sungayan diay. o sige bitaw nasila og halk anang BATO nga gikan kono sa langit hahaha.

    possible sad bai kabalo man gud sila about ana ni jesus mary ug angel mga forefathers sad diay like abraham,adam and eve sakto ba?unya mura pareparehas gamay sa christianity ba.tsktsktsk...mura nindut ni studihan ang islam bai ang history sa islam ba

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    Quote Originally Posted by hush232002 View Post
    possible sad bai kabalo man gud sila about ana ni jesus mary ug angel mga forefathers sad diay like abraham,adam and eve sakto ba?unya mura pareparehas gamay sa christianity ba.tsktsktsk...mura nindut ni studihan ang islam bai ang history sa islam ba
    mao gyud. ang logar ni Mohammad melting pot man to, daghang mga traders mag abot didto from different regions nya dala dala nila ilang goods og ang ilang relihiyon. morag pinaagi ani dinhi nadongog ni Mohammad ang pagtolon.an sa mga hudeo og kristyano.

    ingon pasa oban nga plagiarism ning Islam sa Christianity og Judaism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McVos View Post
    mao gyud. ang logar ni Mohammad melting pot man to, daghang mga traders mag abot didto from different regions nya dala dala nila ilang goods og ang ilang relihiyon. morag pinaagi ani dinhi nadongog ni Mohammad ang pagtolon.an sa mga hudeo og kristyano.

    ingon pasa oban nga plagiarism ning Islam sa Christianity og Judaism.

    nay point bai. salamat! nahala may unta nakatabang ni akong mga pangutana sa mga naay duda sa authenticity sa islam.salamat kau mcbai.... ex muslim ka bai? sweto man gud ka aning islam bah?

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    Hehehe, mora jud mo ug mga joker pa-drama2 pa, mora’g sa mga videos nga gipangpost ni dodong McVos. Typical kaayo si dodong McVos nga trying hard self-declared Christian apologist mao gud mag-buot sa mga tubag pero dodong McVos maka-pugong kaha ka sa global resurgence of Islam nga kon imo basehan ang biblia as the basis of the law in the land MORALLY BANKRUPT MAN NA (as implied by your previous post). DI MAN NA MAKAPABAROG UG GOBYERNO KAY MAGSUNGAY MAN ANG MGA BALAOD DIHA. Maigo jud mo aning revelation sa Qur’an (read below) kay instinct na man sa tawo nga mangita ug KOMPLETO nga KAMATUORAN. Kon mangita gani ka sa Kamatuoran you have to set aside all your preconceive notions, di kay ikaw nuon magbuot sa tubag, you came out as FAULTFINDER ka determine to subdue an unwilling enemy.

    “Fain would they put out the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah disdaineth (aught) save that He shall perfect His light, however much the disbelievers are averse.
    He it is who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.” Qur’an 9:32-33

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    Quote Originally Posted by marius View Post
    ambit lang ko gamay sa inyong mga storya ha. sa ako lang ning own logic ug analysis sa akong g.basa about islam.

    - si mohammad self proclaimed prophet

    - si mohammad kay dili gyud na cya no-read-no-write, business man na cya, syaro ra sad dili cya kabalo mubasa or sulat.

    - kanang mga scientific facts kuno sa koran, kay kinawat ra na ni mohammad sa teachings sa mga ancient greeks, remember, na mas una ang gyud ang mga greeks sa ilang mga scientific revelations

    - ang makkah sa una kay mao ang center of religious affairs sa saudi, mao na pasangil ni mohammad na sugo cya ginoo para iya makuha ang makkah, para domination ra gihapon

    - kung mag storya man gud ka ug islam kay grabi kau ilang claim na hinatag gyud daw sa ginoo ang knowledge, pero if imo trace.up ang mga teachings sa quran kay nag exist na na daan.

    - kung mub.on pa, kanang koran, mga kinawat ra na na mga teachings sa lain, then g.compile ra na nila ni mohammad ug abu bakar.


    .. pero ako ra na, wala nako convince ang mga tao na bati ang islam, naa gyud cya bati ug joker na mga teachings, pero, ila sad na.
    mao lagi bai mura kadudahan kau ang history ani ilang religion bah...nahibulong man gud ko asa ni sila gkan aning mga character sa bible nga naa sad sa ilang quoran nga gauana paman unta ang bible sa quoran so dili jud diay ni original nga religion mura ra diay ni sagol gamay christianity ug judaism kay monotheism man ila gituuhan pareha gamay sa judaism.mao cguro kontra sad kau ni nilang mga jews sakto bah?

  6. #336
    d man sd guro dapat n.u jud dauton ang islam.. like ingnon nn.u nga kinawat o plagiarized.. those words are harsh and an insult sa ilang religion..

    based lng sa ako nhbw.an (which is pwd i.correct if wrong)

    c Mohammed is a caravan driver.. ang iya amo ang merchant.. so kda.travel nla, naa jud xa dghan nkat.unan.. dli na mwala ang possibility nga pareho2 rjud ang islam sa christian faith.. ky they even consider us as brothers of the book.. dghan characters sa bible pareho2 sa koran..

    ang knang black stone or ka'ba is gkan jud na ug langit.. meteorite bya na xa hehe

    Jihad is i think holy war sakto bah? pro it also means "a struggle" nahimo rna ug holy war ky they are struggling to claim what they want to claim.. pro it cud b a struggling of dfrnt sort..

    f sa ato sd btw bible.. after sa age 12 ni Jesus, wla bya records jud f unsa nhtabo nya dba? and katong naa cla sa temple k2 bata pa xa.. they were also with a caravan.,. posibli sd dw na nga n,travel sd na c Jesus sa trade route.. posibli dw nga n.abot sd na xa ug China.. which allowd Him to gain knwledge pd..

    peace lng unta dri.. lets b open lng bah.. wa lng unta tirahay.. siamo tutti fratelli

  7. #337
    @MARIUS

    Pagka-nindot basahon sa imong mga sweeping accusations good para sa mga wala nagtuon. Kon dunay plagiarism sa Qur’an how come it was able to avoid the pitfalls that the bible have, pagka-bright sa nag-suwat, it only shows nga mas kahibawo gyud ang source. Nag-tuon ba sad kaha ka sa inyong biblia ug kon gikan sa Greeks ang mga scientic facts nganong kanang mga scientific facts sa biblia regarding sa universe kataw-anan man lagi nga gikan man kaha na sa Greeks ang mga hubad anang inyong biblia. Ayaw gud pamahid, pagtuon sa anang imong biblia.

    Nagpaila lang ka nga wa ka sincerely magtuon sa Qur’an unya pwerte naka nakapanglabay ug mga sweeping accusations, basaha ning Qur’an dodong regarding sa mga prophets, ayaw pataka ha!

    "They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (to salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the religion of Abraham the true and he joined not gods with Allah." Say ye: "We believe in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam)." So if they believe as ye believe they are indeed on the right path; but if they turn back it is they who are in schism; but Allah will suffice thee as against them and He is the All-Hearing the All- Knowing.(Our religion is) the baptism of Allah; and who can baptize better than Allah? and it is He whom we worship. Say: Will ye dispute with us about Allah seeing that He is our Lord and your Lord; that we are responsible for our doings and ye for yours; and that we are sincere (in our faith) in Him? Or do ye say that Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know better than Allah? Ah! who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from Allah? But Allah is not unmindful of what ye do! That was a people that hath passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case." Qur'an 2:135-140

    Nagtuon ba sab kaha ka sa biblia kay motuo ko nimo, kay ang imong gi-storyahan Kristiano baya ni gikan. Kinsa man pud ako tuohan ikaw o kini sila nga nagtuki ug nagtuon gyud anang biblia sa mga katuigan; Tan-awa gyud ug paminawa iyawat na lang malamdagan ka!

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  8. #338
    Quote Originally Posted by koikox View Post
    d man sd guro dapat n.u jud dauton ang islam.. like ingnon nn.u nga kinawat o plagiarized.. those words are harsh and an insult sa ilang religion..

    based lng sa ako nhbw.an (which is pwd i.correct if wrong)

    c Mohammed is a caravan driver.. ang iya amo ang merchant.. so kda.travel nla, naa jud xa dghan nkat.unan.. dli na mwala ang possibility nga pareho2 rjud ang islam sa christian faith.. ky they even consider us as brothers of the book.. dghan characters sa bible pareho2 sa koran..

    ang knang black stone or ka'ba is gkan jud na ug langit.. meteorite bya na xa hehe

    Jihad is i think holy war sakto bah? pro it also means "a struggle" nahimo rna ug holy war ky they are struggling to claim what they want to claim.. pro it cud b a struggling of dfrnt sort..

    f sa ato sd btw bible.. after sa age 12 ni Jesus, wla bya records jud f unsa nhtabo nya dba? and katong naa cla sa temple k2 bata pa xa.. they were also with a caravan.,. posibli sd dw na nga n,travel sd na c Jesus sa trade route.. posibli dw nga n.abot sd na xa ug China.. which allowd Him to gain knwledge pd..

    peace lng unta dri.. lets b open lng bah.. wa lng unta tirahay.. siamo tutti fratelli
    Thanks bro, we have the same thoughts and aspirations but these the same people who thinks they love and following the teachings of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) are the one throwing and giving misinformations about Islam and the Muslims. Anybody can check the following websites if their informations received are true and correct. Thanks again.

    Who is Muhammad?
    http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=IC0603-2933

    What is JIHAD?
    http://islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/what-is-jihad-islamic-holy-war-muslims-killing-jews-and-christians/

  9. #339
    i think pud..

    dba c abraham before cla ngka.anak ni sarah nga c isaac ang gawas
    ky nka.anak pd xa sa ilang helper.. c hagar bah 2? bsta ang name sa ila anak is c ishmael..
    then gpa.layas 2 cla..

    and i think dha sa line ni ishmael pd ngsugod ang islam.. pro dugay jud xa n.abot sa time ni mohammed which is in the 7th century..

  10. #340
    Quote Originally Posted by koikox View Post
    i think pud..

    dba c abraham before cla ngka.anak ni sarah nga c isaac ang gawas
    ky nka.anak pd xa sa ilang helper.. c hagar bah 2? bsta ang name sa ila anak is c ishmael..
    then gpa.layas 2 cla..

    and i think dha sa line ni ishmael pd ngsugod ang islam.. pro dugay jud xa n.abot sa time ni mohammed which is in the 7th century..
    im really not familiar with this part, but i've heard this and naa jud daw ni xa sa bible (correct me if i'm wrong)

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