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    Gahum and inkinian@ sorry for the late reply guys cz I've to talk to majority of the members here and partners nako mo handle sa e.b. As of now, Everyone agreed that the e.b. will likely be held in petron recla for the benefit of everyone. We wanted a place that's big enough to accomodate all cars, location should have Easy access and most of all neutral grounds to every shops and installers here in cebu.

    I hope you guys would be there and mag da lng ta food and drinks each member Para mag share and enjoy ta tanan like one big family to promote our hobby


    I will update everyone if there are changes final schedule will be tnyt or tmr

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    boss aha ni inayo shop basi d ay maka afford ta ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanGubat View Post
    boss aha man na dapit inyo shop?
    audiokraft naa sa a.s fortuna mandue boss





    @alvingo: cge boss, im sure mu reply rapud si boss gahum nimo....actually, audiokraft place can accomodate more than 40 cars, big enough for us mga cebu caraudio enthusiasts, super safe coz naay koral and guardya,,so layo ra kaau sa mga taw na wa ta kaila na mag apil2x sa pundok..but for the SQL, i dunno until what tym pwede mag latos didto,heheheh..

    neutrally speaking, everybody are welcome and kaila man pud tanan hobbyists, installers and shops diri cebu so at the end, its our choice lang ghapon... what boss gahum is after, 100% safety, calm and peaceful environment for the SQ brethen...

    but if thats the case,then majority ganahn sa recla... kitakits ta didto..

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    by the way sir vin, i have nothing against sa caltex recla kay mao raba ni ang atong weekend tambayan sa boom boom cars..

    suggestion ra man ni amo sir since naa man untay gamayng EB activity gud(not the usual tambay nyt) nindot man unta gud na dili crowded para pud maka focus ta, to acquaint, to audi, and to discuss anything....no distructions or whatsoever from other crowd.

    wa kay lain lugar ma hunahunaan sir aside from recla?

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    heheh it will be in petron mo storya pako sa owner today, hopefully i will update tonight or tmr para ma final ang location since were planning to segregate mga s.q. and outdoor systems. Puli2x ug tingog

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    Mauni ang sundon nato rules for the thread para ma hapsai tanan. Purpose is to promote the hobby and more enthusiast or new members will be guided.

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    Let me be the first to welcome you to this thread. We would encourage everyone here to avoid having flamers on the thread, in effect it would allow me to keep the board as homy and as helpful to anyone as it can. This would also enable Istorya members to hear your concerns and learn more about this hobby.


    If we see that the thread is unjustly used for profit, personal, or professional benefit, we will do some necessary actions. The Istorya Mobile Audio Enthusiasts thread is open to all for information gathering, we expect everyone to use the board accordingly.

    Private message is an option in each of the members to use as a communication tool


    As a topic starter and a platinum member we can delete any members posts if it acts as a threat or problem to this thread!
    Let us respect each one here and built good friendships together

    Thank You! More power to this thread

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    My chart above shows the approximate frequency ranges of various musical instruments and the human voice. The black boxes represent their fundamental frequencies and the yellow boxes represent their harmonic frequencies. It's much easier to understand and enhance the instruments you want to hear when you know what frequencies they cover.


    Bass
    (Approximately 20hz-140hz)
    There is little musical material with fundamental frequencies below 60hz. What is normally perceived as low bass material is actually in the 60hz-140hz range. Only a few instruments actually reach this range such as the organ, contrabassoon and string bass.

    The 60hz-90hz range is where we notice the greatest perceptible changes in "bass response." Try a test tone and see just how well you hear 20hz or even 32hz, compared with the same volume of 60hz or 90hz.
    Mid-Bass
    (Approximately 140hz-400hz)
    Mid bass has lots of instruments included in its frequency range. Cello (my instrument), Bassoon, French Horn (Freedom Horn this year) and yes Male Voice are all here. This is where most 'bass' controls really muck up your music. Overemphasizing the mid-bass range gives the music a muddy, or "boomy" quality. If the mid-bass region is underemphasized, the music sounds hollow and thin.

    Midrange
    (Approximately 400hz-2.6khz)
    Since our ears are most sensitive to midrange frequencies, midrange has the greatest effect on the overall sound of your stereo system. Actually there is controversy among engineers and audiophiles as to what the proper balance should be in this range. Some settings are best suited to particular types of music.

    The "proper" settings are the ones most pleasing to you the listener. I won't list instruments here because virtually all instruments have fundamentals found here in the midrange with the exception of Contra Bassoons, Bass Tuba and a very few others.


    Upper Midrange
    (Approximately 2.6khz-5.2khz)
    Except for the pipe organ and piano, not many instruments have fundamental frequencies this high. Well, I guess the violin does touch into the range. But, it's really amazing just how little fundamental frequency material actually starts above what we consider midrange.

    Speaker designers often boost output in this range to affect the quality or "presence" of the music. Too much energy, on the other hand, sounds overbearingly harsh and strident. A good balance between this frequency range and the midrange frequencies gives the most pleasing sound.

    High End
    (Approximately 5.2khz-20khz - Two Regions)
    The region from about 5.2khz up to about 12khz is normally perceived to be the high-frequency range. (The dreaded treble control.) Only the pipe organ actually contributes any fundamental frequencies in this spectrum (as well as a few others such as the flute), but this is where the harmonics really enhance your musical enjoyment. It's this range that affects the brilliance of music. Overemphasizing these frequencies gives an unpleasant, harsh and even piercing quality to your music.

    The final region, the super high frequencies, from about 12khz-20khz, actually contains very little musical material despite all the editorial coverage it receives. However, many very soft 2nd and 3rd order harmonics do reach into this area.

    Plus, most adults can hear only subtle differences when adjustments are made in the 14khz-20khz range. It's important to remember that adults, (mainly men) simply can't hear much above 15-16,000hz after the age of 50. So, this area primarily adds a little more dimension to your sound.


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    Terms to Know about Car Audio: Aspects of Sound Quality

    Listening to audiophiles go on about the sound quality of their audio systems — from their woofers to their tweeters — can sound a lot like oenophiles going on and on about the qualities of wine. To understand such talk, start by understanding the four basics of sound quality:

    * Clarity

    * Dynamic range

    * Frequency response

    * Tonal balance

    Clarity

    Clarity is the ability of a system to produce the original signal as intended, without distortion. Distortion can be caused by numerous things — from a head unit that's not level-matched with an amplifier to an amplifier that's clipping, or being overdriven and sending a distorted signal to the speakers. And distortion can come from any component in a system.

    A good test is to listen to cymbals, which can have a brassy and off-putting sound when distorted. High-pitched female vocals are also difficult to reproduce and can reveal distortion rather easily.

    Achieving clarity and therefore avoiding distortion is all about proper system design and tuning. It's making sure components are of sufficient quality and compatible with one another and that signal levels are well matched between electronics. It also involves using a component as it was intended and not pushing it past its design limits.
    Dynamic range

    Dynamic range refers to the ability of a system to reproduce loud and soft passages in music with the same level of detail. When you're at a live concert, a singer may wail and then whisper or a drummer may hit a drum head with brute force and then back off a bit. Each extreme is an important part of the performance.

    If the performance is recorded and reproduced by an audio system, the loud and soft parts should be delivered with the same detail and accuracy. But often a system tends to suppress soft parts and emphasize loud ones, meaning you lose the subtleties of the performance.

    A related concept is linearity, which refers to a system's tendency to lose detail when the volume is turned down. A system has great linearity if it can retain the same detail at a low volume that it does when it's cranked up.
    Frequency response

    Every sound you hear, from the low rumble of thunder to the high-pitch wail of a siren, is caused by vibrations in the air that occur at certain frequencies. These vibrations are measured in hertz (Hz), which refers to the number of times per second these vibrations occur.

    Humans can hear frequencies roughly from 20 to 20,000 Hz. A car audio system's frequency response represents how much of the audible frequency spectrum it can reproduce. The frequency response of a car audio system can be measured by an instrument known as a real-time analyzer (RTA), which consists of a microphone attached to a processor with a display that has a graph that shows a system's response.
    Tonal balance

    An ideal car audio system uniformly reproduces the entire audible frequency spectrum from 20 to 20,000 Hz. But no system — at least while playing music — is perfect. Music is dynamic; some parts are loud and some are soft, so a system will naturally have dips and peaks in its frequency response.

    Although a system can have these peaks and dips in frequency response, it needs to have good tonal balance — a relatively equal amount of sonic energy across the frequency range — to sound good. Subsequently, system designers and tuners often measure frequency response to gauge which frequencies may need to be boosted or cut as opposed to trying to achieve a flat frequency response. This can be done with an equalizer, although it's best that the system is designed in such a way that it has good tonal balance to begin with.

    Taken from Drew's Frequencies



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    Important Faqs
    By Niel aka. blade4683

    1. car's electrical system
    * using a 100A alt is not enough. you have to know at what engine rpm the alt is giving out 100A otherwise your system is getting much less (this is why some people adjust their engine's choke to increase the engine rpm at idle... to keep the alt's rotor rotating at the desired rpm for the desired output current)
    * even if he's using a kinetik battery (or 2), if the alt is still stock, the kinetiks will have a shorter-than-expected life
    * to power his entire system (assuming 1200wrms, 1-1000wrms for sub and 1-200wrms for front seps), his electrical system needs to produce 83.3A at 14.4v, or 86.96A at 13.8v (note higher current at lower voltages)... and that's assuming nothing but his sound system is on.
    * at power output in the kilowatt range, no amount of capacitance (by using stiffening caps) will substitute for an aftermarket alternator built to do the job
    * this is also why some inexperienced users often blow their "main" and amp fuses... to keep up with the high power drawn by amp(s), current flow increases to keep up with sagging voltages.

    2. amp's efficiency (by virtue of its type/class)
    * class AB amps are about 60% efficient, while class D amps are much more efficient at up to 80+%
    * even if the electrical system is giving 1000w of power, see how much of it drives the speaker and how much is converted to heat...
    * to have an amp that produces 1000wrms at its speaker terminals, the manufacturers need to engineer the amp to compensate for these losses. so if indeed the amp powering the sub really gives out a true 1000wrms, it will actually demand more power at its input.

    3. amp's actual output power
    * in fairness, some amps are also underrated. one can refer to what they call an amp's "birthsheet" to see how much power is actually produced by the amp (take note though, at what operating voltage the amps are running at)
    * my dls ca-10 is advertised to produce 1000wrms, but benchtests results reported by users in other forums report this amp can put out up to 1300wrms to 1ohm at 14.4v. unfortunately my electrical system can only give it up to 14.1v.

    4. amp's power supply type (regulated or unregulated)
    * for amps with a regulated psu, they can keep rated power at its output over a wider range of input power, while for amps with unregulated psu's, output power is dependent on how much input power it gets from the car's electrical system.

    5. sub's sensitivity
    * this is a figure that gives one an idea how "easy" or "difficult" it is to move the sub's cone (i.e. produce sound). higher figures mean sub will be relatively easy to drive

    6. sub's true power rating
    * for this discussion and for simplicity sake, lets just say all dd subs are underrated by 200w. given this, wouldn't this mean that to run the sub at max power, the amp has to provide and additional 200w above the sub's rated power?

    7. amp's protection circuits
    * any decent amp will have a protection circuit to protect it from excess heat or from drawing too much power (in addition to the installed fuses, as fuses take more time before they blow). running the amp cooler will mean lesser to no instances this protection circuit is triggered, meaning lesser amp cut-offs when showing off your system or when enjoying music at high volume
    * note that some manufacturers tend to keep their amps running on the safer side of things, and end up engineering their amps with lower-than-necessary thresholds for their protection circuits (i.e. protection circuits kicking in even "sooner" than expected)

    setting an amp's gains is another story... the above presumes amp's gains are reasonably set (meaning at no instance will the amp be clipping during operation).

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvingo View Post
    Gahum and inkinian@ sorry for the late reply guys cz I've to talk to majority of the members here and partners nako mo handle sa e.b. As of now, Everyone agreed that the e.b. will likely be held in petron recla for the benefit of everyone. We wanted a place that's big enough to accomodate all cars, location should have Easy access and most of all neutral grounds to every shops and installers here in cebu.

    I hope you guys would be there and mag da lng ta food and drinks each member Para mag share and enjoy ta tanan like one big family to promote our hobby


    I will update everyone if there are changes final schedule will be tnyt or tmr
    Hi Alvin, I'll definitely be there. I think that is a very good idea. What kind of food and drinks? I'll see what we can bring. I like this! SQ! Vin, I heard that Mickey Tang might be coming to this EB. Perhaps we could talk to him about an EMMA competition for the 50k and under category.

    See you soon!

    Quote Originally Posted by VanGubat View Post
    boss aha ni inayo shop basi d ay maka afford ta ...
    Hi Van! Maka guarantee ko na naa jud kay maaford sa shop. Ug nasad kay ganahan ma audi didto, pwede sad.

    G.

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    @ Audiokraft:boss puedi pa tuning didto sa inyo shop?pla sad rate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenon_ian View Post
    @ Audiokraft:boss puedi pa tuning didto sa inyo shop?pla sad rate?
    pag chure oi,,,hahaha...yaw lagi blema ana bai kay magkuyog lagi tah didto.......



    @gahum:
    hahahahahahahhahaha... bai, i like you......sorry bai wa ko kasuroy didto ganina kay na busy akong beauty...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenon_ian View Post
    @ Audiokraft:boss puedi pa tuning didto sa inyo shop?pla sad rate?
    Hi Xenon. Yes you may have your system tuned with us but depende sad na based on what you want done. I promise you na di jud mahal magpa tono. We have many ways to diagnose/tune ur system.

    Mao ni atong mga equipment na pwede nato gamiton sa pagtono:

    - Audio Control Real Time Analyzer(RTA) - mu analyze sa imo entire frequency spectrum either inside(SQ) or outside(Tambay)

    - Rockford Fosgate test tone generator - para individual frequencies mismo ang i target nato. Maayo sad ni to test if imong tuning sa ported box is tuned accurately

    - Rockford Fosgate impedance meter - to see if na maximize(napuga) ba gyud nimo ang power sa imo amp. Ex. If your amp is 1ohm stable, ma check nato if we can safely bring it down pa gyud to .5 ohms without damaging your amp. Para ni sa mga nag budget nya ganahan ug more power. Mao ni cheaper alternative to buying a more powerful amp.

    - TPI Oscilloscope - mao ni pang level matching(SQ) or gain overlap(Tambay).

    You can avail of big discounts with system tuning if:
    1) Ur a member of Team Audiokraft
    2) Ur a member of MAAC
    3) U purchased your products in Cebu(i.e. Audevo, Alvin Go, CFG, Ryan Yu). The reason we do this is to encourage Cebuanos to purchase locally to help the shops here.

    Pareha ta ni Sir Alvin ug objective na we want to truly promote Car Audio sa Cebu kay di ta ganahan mabiyaan sa taga Manila ug Bacolod.

    Quote Originally Posted by inkinian View Post

    @gahum:
    hahahahahahahhahaha... bai, i like you......sorry bai wa ko kasuroy didto ganina kay na busy akong beauty...
    Ok ra na bai uy! Na gabin-an sad ta didto kay nami gi RTA ug gitaoran ug amp. Napa bitaw next time! Hehe...

    Excited na ko mo apil sa inyong SQ na EB. Bungkagon naman tong pickup para pang SQ nasad.

    Peace All,

    G.

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