Muscle Building and Fat Loss

[jaeahr]

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Cge na ug dugo akong ilong lol. I still has a lot to learn when it comes to bodybuilding sir, that is why i try to ask questions for me to gain knowledge. Again, i already spent 10 months training but you looked a lot better than me. Regarding my diet, im still on the process of figuring out my macro breakdown. The last time i did a bulk, i was doing it dirty this time im hoping to have it clean. Fyi, i just ended my mini cut yesterday, will be starting my bulking phase by monday.

I noticed that you included pancit cantons, fudgee bars etc in your diet. Do you track their calories? They are calorie densed foods i guess.

yup. i track my food on a daily basis. if i ever progress to dirty bulking i'll probably stop. but i'm trying to keep the weight gain clean as possible. SUPER SILHIG as i like to call it.

good luck on your clean bulk! i know you can do it

[Cyrenz]

@Cyrenz

you can believe what you want. or not believe what you want. April 15, 2014.

1250 G / 1.25 KG of cooked rice. 1 day. still hit 200g of protein =)

i think that's enough proof from me. forums start turning into playgrounds when people don't believe you
especially when you're just trying to help.

P.S. if anyone thinks i take steroids. that would be the BIGGEST compliment ever. seriously. lol. my transformation is due to sheer dedication. pre-knowledge. new found knowledge. and consistency.

Sorry bro, if you got offended by my questions. As i told you earlier, i was just curious on how you managed to split your macros with that amount of rice you consume every day. I thought you are here to help, you can just ignore my questions if you want to. Or you can send a PM. I asked you because, i wanted to learn and gather new ideas. Your posts and answers will be useful to other istoryans also, they can learn from it. Remember this thread was created for the sake of sharing ideas and knowledge on muscle building and fatloss. PEACEOUT

[jaeahr]

Sorry bro, if you got offended by my questions. As i told you earlier, i was just curious on how you managed to split your macros with that amount of rice you consume every day. I thought you are here to help, you can just ignore my questions if you want to. Or you can send a PM. I asked you because, i wanted to learn and gather new ideas. Your posts and answers will be useful to other istoryans also, they can learn from it. Remember this thread was created for the sake of sharing ideas and knowledge on muscle building and fatloss. PEACEOUT

haha. my bad. that wasn't really directed at you. it was in general. i guess you took it as i meant just you. i just don't want this forum to turn into a hot mess like the bodybuilding.com forums are. where videos are "proof". and i'm not going to go through the trouble of that here. etc etc.

what i mean is that. it shouldn't be a question unless you tried it first. like you said 1.5 KG of rice is 2K cals. etc. that still leaves me with 1200 calories. which i put into protein and fats.

i just have a high standard dogma with " do / try before asking "
how can someone assume something without trying it themselves first. is my point. feel free to ask anything you want


the body. the mind. people don't give enough credit to what it's capable of doing. training is all about adjusting. this also goes with dieting.

[jaeahr]

@Cyrenz

i am here to help. you aren't helping yourself enough is the problem. if you knew 1.5 KG of rice is 2K calories. that means you could easily of found a way to find 1200 calories worth of 200g of protein. then it's like "awww do i really have to sit here and make a screenshot of my food diary"

i wasn't offended directly at your question. what i was offended at was the laziness of the question. i hope you can understand the difference. whole part of body building is not being lazy. this has to be with the mind too. not just within the gym.

let's let bygones be bygones.

[Cyrenz]

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haha. my bad. that wasn't really directed at you. it was in general. i guess you took it as i meant just you. i just don't want this forum to turn into a hot mess like the bodybuilding.com forums are. where videos are "proof". and i'm not going to go through the trouble of that here. etc etc.

what i mean is that. it shouldn't be a question unless you tried it first. like you said 1.5 KG of rice is 2K cals. etc. that still leaves me with 1200 calories. which i put into protein and fats.

i just have a high standard dogma with " do / try before asking "
how can someone assume something without trying it themselves first. is my point. feel free to ask anything you want


the body. the mind. people don't give enough credit to what it's capable of doing. training is all about adjusting. this also goes with dieting.

You tagged me when you posted it, that is why i thought you are referring to me. If i know everything, why would i ask you in the first place? Again, you can just ignore my questions if you find it lazy. Like what they said, "Every PRO was once a beginner". you seem to know a lot about bodybuilding, so expect a lot of noob questions bro.

[jaeahr]

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You tagged me when you posted it, that is why i thought you are referring to me. If i know everything, why would i ask you in the first place? Again, you can just ignore my questions if you find it lazy. Like what they said, "Every PRO was once a beginner". you seem to know a lot about bodybuilding, so expect a lot of noob questions bro.

hehe. why wouldn't i tag you? you were the one that asked the question. hahayz. here we go.

bro - you literally asked me how can i find 1 - 1.5KG of rice in a 3200 calorie diet. with the knowledge of 1.5 KG of cooked rice being 2K calories. you literally say in one of your replies that you've been working out for 10 months and your diet is on point. come on now.

please tell me in what way shape or form is that a noob question? how is that NOT lazy? unless you had stock knowledge of those numbers you obviously researched it. am i right? but you couldn't do your own research to find 1200 of calories for 200g of protein?


THIS IS A NOOB QUESTION
@onig.heck - what does creatine do? never tried supplements
@me - athletic enhancer / do your own research to find all it's benefits. too many to list.
1 day later @onig.heck - ah ok thx. found everything i needed to know

you know what that is? dedication. self knowledge. SELF IMPROVEMENT.
THE WHOLE REASON BEHIND BODY BUILDING

bro. if there's one thing i learned about body building. you can't have things just handed to you. you have to work for it. mind body and soul. brain muscles. spiritual muscles. physical muscles.


you seem to be experiencing that crab mentality. because ng lain ko nmu. ng lain ka nko. but you were the one in the wrong.

[Cyrenz]

hehe. why wouldn't i tag you? you were the one that asked the question. hahayz. here we go.

bro - you literally asked me how can i find 1 - 1.5KG of rice in a 3200 calorie diet. with the knowledge of 1.5 KG of cooked rice
being 2K calories.

please tell me in what way shape or form is that a noob question? how is that NOT lazy? unless you had stock knowledge of those
numbers you obviously researched it. am i right? but you couldn't do your own research to find 1200 of calories for 200g of protein?


THIS IS A NOOB QUESTION
@onig.heck - what does creatine do? never tried supplements
@me - athletic enhancer / do your own research to find all it's benefits. too many to list.
1 day later @onig.heck - ah ok thx. found everything i needed to know

you know what that is? dedication. self knowledge. SELF IMPROVEMENT.
THE WHOLE REASON BEHIND BODY BUILDING


you seem to be experiencing that crab mentality. because ng lain ko nmu. ng lain ka nko. but you were the one in the wrong.

Lols, crab mentality? You seem to be too over confident with what you have right now bro. I was asking about the rice question because you mentioned that you are currently doing a "very clean bulk". I find it hard on how to fit that with your macro requirement given that you are consuming fudgee bars and creatine mono. I am in awe when i first saw your transformation, im definitely "mirin". Pero, the way you act right now i do think you are just showboating here. Also, please be consistent with your posts. You said that "CONSISTENCY is the key", yet imong mga posts dili consistent. Pagbisaya nalang sad, i k ow kabalo ka magbisaya. Try to backread your previous posts, payter man lagi kaa ka mo bisaya. Then later on ni ana ka nga you suck at speaking in bisaya kay its just our 5th or 6th language/dialect. Pretty consistent huh?

P.S. there are a number of posters here lurking, especially ang mga karaan ug ang mga with more experience, knowledge than you do. Did they even brag about their knowledge and physique? NOPE they didn't.

[jaeahr]

Lols, crab mentality? You seem too over confident with what you have right now bro. I was asking about the rice question because, you mentioned that you are currently doing a "very clean bulk". I find it hard on how to fit that with your macro requirement given that you are consuming fudgee bars and creatine mono. I am in awe when i first saw your transformation, im definitely "mirin". Pero, the way you act right now i do think you are just showboating here.

P.S. there are a number of posters here lurking, especially ang mga karaan ug ang mga with more experience, knowledge than you do. Did they even brag about their knowledge and physique? NOPE they didn't.

i have answered everyone's question without hesitation. i have answered all my PM's without hesitation. every answer of mine has been in detail as much as possible off the top of my head without searching on the internet. or looking at my notes. if i do have time to look at my notes. i edit my post and add more information. all my knowledge has been shared to the line on a T to the dot on an i . if you think i'm showboating then you obviously have no understanding of the word. the only showboating i'm doing is showing people how lazy you are.


i think you're just lazy. end of story. you have the "strength" to find the information of 1.5 KG of rice and its caloric content. but can't do the other 33% of the work.


this is what happened. you expect everything to be handed to you now since you put in 10 months of work. you're comparing yourself with my 2 month gains and realized your 10 months could of been a lot better. without even letting 24 hours pass. you second guess my diet and macros without doing your own research. you find it hard to believe because. yet you go on about being fully aware of the big 3 and your diet being "on point" you never tried it before ( eating 1.5KG of rice + hitting 200g of P ) you're assuming it's not true. crab mentality. you assume just because we have the same height and weight. i'm just going to hand everything to you on a silver platter. there are no BOYS/YAYA's in body building.


without NO research. NO actual effort into trying. you're already assuming the negative. crab mentality.


P.S. the most stupid logic i have ever read in my life. dude. i can guarantee you there are THOUSANDS of people with MORE experience. KNOWLEDGE. and BETTER BODIES than MY OWN.

LURKERS here OR NOT. who's the one putting in the effort to help? great logic bro.


lol @ showboating. dude the only reason i post my pictures is to show what bulking is capable of. isn't that the WHOLE point of this thread? muscle building and fat loss. you act like i'm sitting here posting pictures of my car and house in a muscle building thread.

[Cyrenz]

i have answered everyone's question without hesitation. i have answered all my PM's without hesitation. every answer of mine has been in detail as much as possible off the top of my head without searching on the internet. or looking at my notes. if i do have time to look at my notes. i edit my post and add more information. all my knowledge has been shared to the line on a T to the dot on an i . if you think i'm showboating then you obviously have no understanding of the word. the only showboating i'm doing is showing people how lazy you are.


i think you're just lazy. end of story. you have the "strength" to find the information of 1.5 KG of rice and its caloric content. but can't do the other 33% of the work.


this is what happened. you expect everything to be handed to you now since you put in 10 months of work. you're comparing yourself with my 2 month gains and realized your 10 months could of been a lot better. without even letting 24 hours pass. you second guess my diet and macros without doing your own research. you find it hard to believe because. yet you go on about being fully aware of the big 3 and your diet being "on point" you never tried it before ( eating 1.5KG of rice + hitting 200g of P ) you're assuming it's not true. crab mentality. you assume just because we have the same height and weight. i'm just going to hand everything to you on a silver platter. there are no BOYS/YAYA's in body building.


without NO research. NO actual effort into trying. you're already assuming the negative. crab mentality.


P.S. the most stupid logic i have ever read in my life. dude. i can guarantee you there are THOUSANDS of people with MORE experience. KNOWLEDGE. and BETTER BODIES than MY OWN.

LURKERS here OR NOT. who's the one putting in the effort to help? great logic bro.

you win bro, lols. Yep, im lazy that is why i only have minimal gains. Did i ask you to hand me your meal plan? Again, i was just curious about your macros. Don't be a crybaby. Simple question was asked,then suddenly you went berserk(crea rage? Lol). how can you be sure that i didn't do my research? No effort? Props to you mr jim stoppani of the phils.

dude, never did i metioned that your purpose of posting your pictures is showboating. What i was talking about is that your posts, you always act like you know everything(training, nutrition, creatine etc) with only 2 months of experience you already sounded like Jason Ferruggia and Jim. how much more if the time progresses?

[jaeahr]

Also, please be consistent with your posts. You said that "CONSISTENCY is the key", yet imong mga posts dili consistent. Pagbisaya nalang sad, i k ow kabalo ka magbisaya. Try to backread your previous posts, payter man lagi kaa ka mo bisaya. Then later on ni ana ka nga you suck at speaking in bisaya kay its just our 5th or 6th language/dialect. Pretty consistent huh?

hahahaha. YOU EDITED YOUR POST JUST TO ADD THIS now you're assuming bisaya is my first dialect. WHICH HAS NOTHING TO EVEN DO WITH THE ARGUMENT. seriously bro. you are totally awesome. <3

i never once said i didn't know bisaya. i said my grammar and writing is bad in bisaya. i'm more fluent in english. but thanks for pointing this out. it's totally related to the topic and argument. keep digging a deeper hole for yourself.

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you win bro, lols. Yep, im lazy that is why i only have minimal gains. Did i ask you to hand me your meal plan? Again, i was just curious about your macros. Don't be a crybaby. Simple question was asked,then suddenly you went berserk(crea rage? Lol). how can you be sure that i didn't do my research? No effort? Props to you mr jim stoppani of the phils.

the guy complaining about my english and that i type in bisaya. which has NOTHING to do with the argument - is calling me a crybaby. i honestly love your logic. please keep going.

dude, never did i metioned that your purpose of posting your pictures is showboating. What i was talking about is that your posts, you always act like you know everything(training, nutrition, creatine etc) with only 2 months of experience you already sounded like Jason Ferruggia and Jim. how much more if the time progresses?

i have no idea who those people are. and again. you obviously have no comprehension of the meaning of the word - showboating. since when is sharing knowledge with others in complete detail without hesitation showboating

in the majority of my posts. i have mentioned my dogma numerous times.

- you don't have to listen to me
- you don't have to do what i recommended
- do what you know what works for you
- if your body is better than mine. you are more correct than i am
- I EVEN INSIST anyone who has been working out longer than i have should be the one GIVING me advice

i put COUNTLESS disclaimers that with my dogmas and i've been working out for ONLY 2 months.


hehe. i'm done proving myself. wasted too many calories on this argument. i gained nothing in this argument -_-
epic fail on my part. sitting here trying to argue about how lazy someone is and his counter dispute is "speak in bisaya cause i know you can"

...wtf.