Philippine Coast Guard Shoot down Taiwanese Illegal Poachers

[dandan68]

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Then moral lesson of the story? atong mga ofws sa TW and CN paksit, muy ma bawsan aning styla. pagka bugo.a gyud mga animal nato diri, isog kaayo kung civilian vessel ang kuntra, katong warship nag suroyx2 sa spratly wa man lagi nag pa kita ang pinas. peh!

sakto jud ka bro looy kay me dri Taiwan.d me kagawas.piniriso na me diri

[C'thulhu]

sakto jud ka bro looy kay me dri Taiwan.d me kagawas.piniriso na me diri

That is just so sad. Hopefully this will soon blow over, and I maayo unta dili na pud ma paksitan atong EEZ and territorial waters...

[dandan68]

That is just so sad. Hopefully this will soon blow over, and I maayo unta dili na pud ma paksitan atong EEZ and territorial waters...

hehhe..lage..naka sad lang jud kay naa na pinoy diri.nakulatahan og mga Taiwanese sa kao shung to nga lugar...looy daw ayu.hahay...kami diri gani d na mu kumpyansa.

[Romeojin]

In my observation, one thing for sure in every situation like this where our country is figured in international crisis, the opposing parties and its government are almost always in solidarity with one another. In contrast we are very fragmented and divided with such issues. That i guess is proof that their country and culture is much stronger and united than ours...

Well im not saying its about being anti or pro government. i think IMO people are being consistent.

Look at the Sabah issue, people like me are clamoring for the safety of our brothers Tausug and in any way we didnt imply we go to war. Filipinos shouldn't be treated like that (being bomb by F16 etc), mo react man gani when Filipinos are beaten up in Taiwan, what more being killed.
Yes the Tausug trespass in Malaysia sovereignty but its their land in the first place, they have reason. Bloodshed should had been avoided if the government (including Malaysia) had work on it... maximum tolerance.

Now this Taiwan issue, yes they trespass in our sovereignty but they shouldnt be shoot at esp if they are not marksmen. We had intercepted/arrested many illegal fishermen and poachers in the past, how many get killed? karon pa ko kadungog ug namatay gyud if so kung naa, wa man niabot to this kind of tension. Maximum tolerance tana, cause we shouldn't give the Taiwanese the reason why should they harm our countrymen.
And Im not belittling our PCG, they are living heroes its not easy doing their job. Then again they should exercise maximum tolerance cause its not easy to side with killers.


If you imply that there's two side on this issue (pro or anti gov), now tell me.. who has a just cause ?
Life should be given the highest regards.

[EL LOCO]

mmmm nindot ma maksit ug taiwanese sad diri cebu dah...

[<SMILE>]

I don't think I understand what you just wrote there. We do not have to define identities and existences as that is not my question.

What I am asking you is what is your definition of a "Filipino", plain and simple. Kung binisayon, para nimo unsa man ang pagka Pinoy? Unsa may maka ingon ngano Pinoy ang usa ka tao?

If you are asking me who I am, I am a Filipino. A Filipino who wants what is best for his country, the Republic of the Philippines.

And for those posters who have a different opinion against yours, what makes you say they are less of a Filipino than you?

Okay tubagon lang gihapon tika,
maorag gahi man kaayo ka pasabton,
Giingnan na man tika nga identity na ang pagka-pinoy,
asa man diay ka gapuyo diin ka natawo, kinsa imong ginikanan,
dires pinas, pinoy ug pinay imong ginikanan, unya usa man ka karon ''taiwanese?''
Unya asa man imong simpatiya karon pinoy man kaha ka.
Unya unsa may kaayohan mahatag nimo karon sa pilipinas, bahin ini nga issue,
mao ra na sad-an tong ming-dipensa sa atong borders, ming-dipensa sa imong katungod,
imo silang ihatag sa mga taiwanese para ipa-priso, adto na lang kaha puyo sa taiwan
para klaro.
Less Pinoy gyud ka kung mao.

[C'thulhu]

Okay tubagon lang gihapon tika,
maorag gahi man kaayo ka pasabton,
Giingnan na man tika nga identity na ang pagka-pinoy,
asa man diay ka gapuyo diin ka natawo, kinsa imong ginikanan,
dires pinas, pinoy ug pinay imong ginikanan, unya usa man ka karon ''taiwanese?''
Unya asa man imong simpatiya karon pinoy man kaha ka.
Unya unsa may kaayohan mahatag nimo karon sa pilipinas, bahin ini nga issue,
mao ra na sad-an tong ming-dipensa sa atong borders, ming-dipensa sa imong katungod,
imo silang ihatag sa mga taiwanese para ipa-priso, adto na lang kaha puyo sa taiwan
para klaro.
Less Pinoy gyud ka kung mao.

Nah na himo naman hinoon kong Taiwanese...

Ok by your definition of what a Filipino is, how does that make the posters with opposing views as yours less Filipino. It is their opinion that the shooting is a mistake and will only anger our neighbors and thus put the lives and safety of our yes, kababayan, kapwa pinoy OFWs at risk in Taiwan. Mao rana akong gi pasabot.

Kanusa mani about me? I'm am just asking why naka ingon man ka ang uban posters dili Filipino, nga naa man sad sila valid points. Mao bitaw mag discuss ta diri sa forum para maka idea ta unsay maayo na solution aning kalakiha.

If your are asking me unsay kaayohan akong na hatag sa atong nasud og sa kaning issue, I have given my time, sweat and some of my hard earned money to help our armed forces and police in my own little way.

Ni ingon ba ko na ako sila i hatag sa mga Taiwanese para ipa preso? Basaha kuno unsa akong gi pang post...

Mura na man eksakto si wikki...

[lordfred]

Max Defense blog is very nice to read, realizing Aquino Administration starting to modernize AFP.
Pero tan-aw nako mao sad ni hinungdan nganu gi provoke ta ug maayo sa laing nasud.
Dili siguro sila gustong ma 100% full modernization ang AFP kay mahadlok sila, mao ila nalang ta unhan samtang wala pata mahinog.
We really should not bow down to other people, stomping our pride.

[<SMILE>]

Nah na himo naman hinoon kong Taiwanese...

Ok by your definition of what a Filipino is, how does that make the posters with opposing views as yours less Filipino. It is their opinion that the shooting is a mistake and will only anger our neighbors and thus put the lives and safety of our yes, kababayan, kapwa pinoy OFWs at risk in Taiwan. Mao rana akong gi pasabot.

Kanusa mani about me? I'm am just asking why naka ingon man ka ang uban posters dili Filipino, nga naa man sad sila valid points. Mao bitaw mag discuss ta diri sa forum para maka idea ta unsay maayo na solution aning kalakiha.

If your are asking me unsay kaayohan akong na hatag sa atong nasud og sa kaning issue, I have given my time, sweat and some of my hard earned money to help our armed forces and police in my own little way.

Ni ingon ba ko na ako sila i hatag sa mga Taiwanese para ipa preso? Basaha kuno unsa akong gi pang post...

Mura na man eksakto si wikki...

Padulong gyud na pagka-priso kung
magpadala ta ana nila, good for you Bro naa gyud diay kay contribution.
Don't worry bluff2x ra na sila gusto ra nang mangisda dire sa atoa, leverage for fishing rights
bargaining agreement mao padako nila ug maayo ang issue dili pud na sila ka-basta2x ug
declare ug gubat, I'm not sure about our OFW's but I'm sure it's not the government of Taiwan
that employs them, but private companies who needs their expertise and would not just give
such an asset who supports their businesses.
Well, let's see what the news would offer next.

[C'thulhu]

Padulong gyud na pagka-priso kung
magpadala ta ana nila, good for you Bro naa gyud diay kay contribution.
Don't worry bluff2x ra na sila gusto ra nang mangisda dire sa atoa, leverage for fishing rights
bargaining agreement mao padako nila ug maayo ang issue dili pud na sila ka-basta2x ug
declare ug gubat, I'm not sure about our OFW's but I'm sure it's not the government of Taiwan
that employs them, but private companies who needs their expertise and would not just give
such an asset who supports their businesses.
Well, let's see what the news would offer next.

Ok, we are communicating now on the same wavelength.

Imho, Ma's(president of Taiwan) rating now is at an all time low, iya ni gi gamit ang issue to divert ang attention sa ilang people. Just like that Kris-James drama nga na kalimtan naman hinoon si Kiram. And to press us for that fishing rights too while he is at it... Sakay jud sa panahon, milking the situation for what its worth...

The problem here is that this is starting to get out of hand and there are reports, either confirmed or unconfirmed that our kababayans are being targeted and harassed in Taiwan.

Nindot man unta mu sukol, but first we must have the means to do so. Although the possibility of a shooting war is remote, the US is highly unlikely to allow it. It would only be to China's advantage.

What I see here is that our diplomacy is very lacking, in a span of three years, we managed to antagonize most of our neighbors... Malaysia due to the Lahad-Datu incident, Cambodia was not impressed by our presidents manners during the ASEAN meeting, Indonesia is wary because our president avoided most of the functions during last years ASEAN summit. In APEC at Vladivostok, we misrepresented Singapore's foreign policy positions.. We also escalated our spat with China without close consultations with our ASEAN partners... Diplomacy is supposedly our primary tool for now in dealing with UN-neighborly neighbors... We could do better...