Mutual Funds VS UITF

[cebu.opportunities]

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Wave 5 will depend on the US employment data that will be released within this week.
But as far as valuations are concerned, taas lang gyud kaayo ang 7,000 to 8,000. Around 6,500 to 6,800 is good enough.

by Sir Makie


@ nowayl,
bro, patay ta aning 6500 to 6800 dah... ubos ra pra satong line of 400 nga entry/ies.

sugod nasad puwa

[nowayL]

yes, it's on our risk to do it that way. so far, everything was "remitted". The last time I went there, I enumerated the navpu's during my ins so kahibaw gyud sila nga monitored jud. so far, sila pasad ako masaligan and 6 rides pmn gud mao magbilin ra daan. ny kulba gamay and next time i-indicate najud daan if asa i-allocate ang fund, ang date nlng ang hanging. by the way, di cash ang gibilin.


425 to ako pinakataas bro. wrong timing gyud to. mao tong biggest 1 day drop since 2011 man siguro pero naapsan pjud siya pag May 24 man siguro to. abi nako mao nato ang correction unya mo bounce back na dayon ky grabeh ka nindot sa fundamentals before ato. mura man nakatok after. pero if unsa man dagan, it won't hurt that bad ky tuhik rmn to bro. medyo cautious na gamay.

sa karon watch mode lang sa ky lisod na. hopefully, mobalik temporarily sa 6100, 6000 or lesser pra another entry point. then, wait sa 7000. if ever, naa pai wave 5 sa Elliot wave, much better. then, a long vacation sa UITF (if wave A, B and C is coming) ky didto napud focus sa business.

by the way bro, sa chart gi-post ni Tony Herbosa http://investvine.com/wp-content/uploads/PSEi-chart.jpg
ang wave 4 ky nagstart sa 5000+ unya ninaog below 5000 (approx 4800), kanus-a kaha na bro, 2nd to 3rd quarter of 2012? di kaha ang wave 5, mao nato 1st quarter sa 2013 wherein niabot 7400? hehe... putol man

Akong style, bilin lang gyud ko ug cash sa akong savings account intended for UITF. Nagmahay man gani ko kay 50% sa akong for UITF akoa man gi-time deposit (COOP at 10%/annum) kay wala pako kabutangan sayangan ko if not working. Nya karon nakasabot na gyud ko sa market, kinahanglan diay nako. Huwaton nalang gyud mo mature pero kung kinahanglan gyud gani soon kung naay major dip, bahala na ug pre-term nalang nako .... hehe .... lesson learned nasad.

Yes Bro, 6600 ang resistance nya posible mag-double bottom kuno. Pero kung malagpasan, next resistance is 7400, nya Wave 5 na dayon ta .... hehe

Good for you Bro naa ka lain business. Diversified gyud na imong salapi da .... hehe

Post nya to nako ang complete Elliot Wave Bro, pangitaon sad nako. PAra ma share sad nato diri.

BTW BroCebOpp, murag mo start na seguro ko sa COL kay naa koy strategy gipalanohan parallel sa UITF nato. Gusto ko naa koy pamatay Bro bisan usa lang ka stock. Suya kaayo ko atong nisulod last 2009, URC iyang gipili at 10 peso nya abot na ug 79 this year or last year ba to. Imagine kung ni invest siya ato ug 300K, after 4 years nahimo nang 2370000. Ingon ana nga style atong Tony Bro, usa duha ra gyud iyang stock pero pamatay puro. In volume gyud siya.

[cebu.opportunities]

Akong style, bilin lang gyud ko ug cash sa akong savings account intended for UITF. Nagmahay man gani ko kay 50% sa akong for UITF akoa man gi-time deposit (COOP at 10%/annum) kay wala pako kabutangan sayangan ko if not working. Nya karon nakasabot na gyud ko sa market, kinahanglan diay nako. Huwaton nalang gyud mo mature pero kung kinahanglan gyud gani soon kung naay major dip, bahala na ug pre-term nalang nako .... hehe .... lesson learned nasad.

Yes Bro, 6600 ang resistance nya posible mag-double bottom kuno. Pero kung malagpasan, next resistance is 7400, nya Wave 5 na dayon ta .... hehe

Good for you Bro naa ka lain business. Diversified gyud na imong salapi da .... hehe

Post nya to nako ang complete Elliot Wave Bro, pangitaon sad nako. PAra ma share sad nato diri.

BTW BroCebOpp, murag mo start na seguro ko sa COL kay naa koy strategy gipalanohan parallel sa UITF nato. Gusto ko naa koy pamatay Bro bisan usa lang ka stock. Suya kaayo ko atong nisulod last 2009, URC iyang gipili at 10 peso nya abot na ug 79 this year or last year ba to. Imagine kung ni invest siya ato ug 300K, after 4 years nahimo nang 2370000. Ingon ana nga style atong Tony Bro, usa duha ra gyud iyang stock pero pamatay puro. In volume gyud siya.

lagi bro, if major dip, nindot man isulod unya okay ra if long term (if excess na gyud ang kwarta) ky dako2x gyud siya in time. didto lang pud sa blue chips ky lisod kaayo if basura stocks unya ma delist unya. okay daw ang basura stocks ky dagko iyang lat-ang pero susceptible lang ang newbies for losses.

sa karon, observe nlng sa siguro ko bro ky lisod na if mayabo. naa sad ko bag-o na realize nga pwede man sad diay ma paspasan ang ROE and ROI sa real estate investments. kani nlng sa ako i-prioritize unya tuhik2x sa UITF.

[MK]

What is the proper wave count diay sir MK? or unsa nga type of wave if naa pai lain wherein ni coincide nga wave 4 npud? hehe



yes, it's on our risk to do it that way. so far, everything was "remitted". The last time I went there, I enumerated the navpu's during my ins so kahibaw gyud sila nga monitored jud. so far, sila pasad ako masaligan and 6 rides pmn gud mao magbilin ra daan. ny kulba gamay and next time i-indicate najud daan if asa i-allocate ang fund, ang date nlng ang hanging. by the way, di cash ang gibilin.

BDO SM and Ayala, I bet wa ko'y patience didto ky high traffic. Samot na ang parkmall maabtan pila ka oras. pero since UITF man, no need na mag-line but then if kato nga branch that we trust and who trusts us, pwede rjud hanging lang ang fund and maka-in mi when gusto without going there on that day basta na prepare lang tanan beforehand.



425 to ako pinakataas bro. wrong timing gyud to. mao tong biggest 1 day drop since 2011 man siguro pero naapsan pjud siya pag May 24 man siguro to. abi nako mao nato ang correction unya mo bounce back na dayon ky grabeh ka nindot sa fundamentals before ato. mura man nakatok after. pero if unsa man dagan, it won't hurt that bad ky tuhik rmn to bro. medyo cautious na gamay.

sa karon watch mode lang sa ky lisod na. hopefully, mobalik temporarily sa 6100, 6000 or lesser pra another entry point. then, wait sa 7000. if ever, naa pai wave 5 sa Elliot wave, much better. then, a long vacation sa UITF (if wave A, B and C is coming) ky didto napud focus sa business.

by the way bro, sa chart gi-post ni Tony Herbosa http://investvine.com/wp-content/uploads/PSEi-chart.jpg
ang wave 4 ky nagstart sa 5000+ unya ninaog below 5000 (approx 4800), kanus-a kaha na bro, 2nd to 3rd quarter of 2012? di kaha ang wave 5, mao nato 1st quarter sa 2013 wherein niabot 7400? hehe... putol man

basically bro, the chart he posted is kind of outdated...his forecast of wave 4 there and the actual wave 5 that hits near 7400 broke the rule of Elliot wave theory that wave 3 cannot be the shortest wave of the 3 impulse wave...just need to update I guess. Anyway, the correction we have now is the wave 4 and many analyst supports that opinion...meaning, we can still expect wave 5 which may bring us to new highs...

[nowayL]

basically bro, the chart he posted is kind of outdated...his forecast of wave 4 there and the actual wave 5 that hits near 7400 broke the rule of Elliot wave theory that wave 3 cannot be the shortest wave of the 3 impulse wave...just need to update I guess. Anyway, the correction we have now is the wave 4 and many analyst supports that opinion...meaning, we can still expect wave 5 which may bring us to new highs...

Ayay naa pa gyud pag-asa, BroMK na gud na nisulti ... hehe

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by Sir Makie


@ nowayl,
bro, patay ta aning 6500 to 6800 dah... ubos ra pra satong line of 400 nga entry/ies.

sugod nasad puwa

Bro, ni green napud. High resistance gyud ning 6600 dah .... lol
Bro in case dili gyud makaya ang 6600 nya naa sign mo ubos nasad, andam nasad ta ug cash kay chance mo 6200, pero higher sas noon sa latest dip. Basin after ana, dretso na gyud. Anyway this year ang posible wave 5, so at least happy gihapon seguro atong Pasko ani .... lol

[nowayL]

Tuara, namuwa na ug sugod .... hehe

[cebu.opportunities]

mura gyud diay kog laki ani

basically bro, the chart he posted is kind of outdated...his forecast of wave 4 there and the actual wave 5 that hits near 7400 broke the rule of Elliot wave theory that wave 3 cannot be the shortest wave of the 3 impulse wave...just need to update I guess. Anyway, the correction we have now is the wave 4 and many analyst supports that opinion...meaning, we can still expect wave 5 which may bring us to new highs...

Thanks sir MK. Do you have any idea (estimate) as to how long will it take until it will reach the peak of wave 5?

@ nowayl,
puwa gyud ang closing. hopefully, mu ubos pa pra maka-in na if naa pajud wave 5, nag duha2x na hinuon ko. pila man pwede i-risk, huhu... hadlok at the same time sayang if ever mo saka pa gyud.


anyone who can share their target "low" for bulk buying/participation? TIA

[nowayL]

@ nowayl,
puwa gyud ang closing. hopefully, mu ubos pa pra maka-in na if naa pajud wave 5, nag duha2x na hinuon ko. pila man pwede i-risk, huhu... hadlok at the same time sayang if ever mo saka pa gyud.

Baye diay ka Sis? ... sowee .... hehe

In case mo double bottom nya medyo ubos2x gyud Sis, ayaw hadlok mobuhi ana imong bala kay atong saligan ron, bullish pa gyud atong market so tendency, padulong gyud ta saka ..... hehe

[nowayL]

Share lang ni nako diri ha basin makatabang sa mga Newbies ..... hehe .... be watchful and prepared ta guys

... In 2006, Wiedemer and a team of economists accurately predicted the collapse of the U.S. housing market, equity markets, and consumer spending that almost sank the United States. They published their research in the book America’s Bubble Economy...

Reading this book Sir Tony, I remembered about your EW GSW 4 parang this will be the trigger of GSW 4!

Eto ang intro ng book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UseYKxDLnOw

Oo, i agree that the global scenario is heading for some meltdown. There has to be a meltdown because too much money has been printed and they need to siphon that off sooner or later. What if inflation starts to come into the picture massively, they will raise interest rates.

But this is what I see - China nd USA and JAPan and other European countries have mortgage themselves to the hilt! Its all credit. Even bond markets are scared. What is Japan's Abenomics? Borrow more and more!

But this is my understanding of world financial logic for now:

1) we had a wave 4 correction, espcially in Emerging markets because -as visible from the DJIA chart I just put up - there was a massive breakout in the US Markets! This breakout was so massive, hot money positioned there. Some thought DJIA was a double top at 14,000 and when it breached and hit 15,000 - they got bullish. So short term, money went there, but not too much and not all. They also bet on the US dollar because the US economy is getting better for the first time after a long while.

2) since the US markets went up, and now trending to go higher, this is medium term bullish for me. PSEi is linked to S&P. it is positively correlated.. As long as S&P goes up, we will go up... ( there was just a shift there temporarily as it was a BUy oN breakout when they saw a massive breakout,.. Once it stabilizes, my bet is the same- S&P, DJIA all go up, we also go up!

3) so the stage is set for - wave 5! This wave 5 is looking better, much better. Why? Because my hunch is DJIA will hit 17,000 after breaking 14,000 ! < massive breakout nga eh!

4) so 17,000 DJIA possible, maybe 9000 PSEi tayo! This is my scenario. Wave 5 is looking good

5) what happens after..WHEN DJIA has topped or is " toppish" at 17,000?. Well, this book shared by FFReedom has much truth in it I'm afraid. Its all downhill, di ba?

6) on the way down, SCW4 and a future GSW4 - its all very scary! I will be in cash 100% and only deposit in BPI or BDO, Or other big local banks, smaller banks may not be able to survive. I see banks collapsing in the States, mortgages collapsing again when easy money cant be applied anymore.. Because too much borrowing has happened!

So scw4 or GSW4 - we cannot be invested In the market.. dapat 100% cash tayo!

[MK]

mura gyud diay kog laki ani



Thanks sir MK. Do you have any idea (estimate) as to how long will it take until it will reach the peak of wave 5?

@ nowayl,
puwa gyud ang closing. hopefully, mu ubos pa pra maka-in na if naa pajud wave 5, nag duha2x na hinuon ko. pila man pwede i-risk, huhu... hadlok at the same time sayang if ever mo saka pa gyud.


anyone who can share their target "low" for bulk buying/participation? TIA

sorry sis diay
permi gyud ko kalimot da...

Anyway, base on EWT..

1. Assuming we have seen the bottom of wave 4 (the recent low of 5678 ) and this correction is just flat correction or triangle consolidation, Wave 5 projection can reach 8500 to 9100. Since the likelihood of an extended rally is high due to length of wave 3, our wave 5 may even reach 10k to 11300.

2. Assuming we haven't seen the bottom of wave 4 yet and we are indeed going for zigzag correction, 4500 is the worst dip we can expect for our wave counts to remain valid...meaning, wave 5 may only reach 7400 to around 8000. Same case with no.1 , an extended wave 5 rally can reach 8900 to 10k...