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    hehe... i remember this one occasion na nageat mi sa ding qua qua sa JY with our American counterparts. One of them was a retired USAF man (not a pilot though). But when he saw Huey choppers hovering in the area (kai duol man sa camp lapu-laup, of course) iyang mata murag na awestruck coz he hasn't seen one of those for over 20yrs. hehehe...

  2. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Junmatt_ph View Post
    well thats life... i wonder 10yrs from now unsa na kaha..
    10 years from now, guba na siguro ang mga aircraft na gipanggamit karon. i-abolish na lang ang air force if the government cannot provide replacement for its obsolete and double retirable aircraft..

  3. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki_v2.1 View Post
    hehe... i remember this one occasion na nageat mi sa ding qua qua sa JY with our American counterparts. One of them was a retired USAF man (not a pilot though). But when he saw Huey choppers hovering in the area (kai duol man sa camp lapu-laup, of course) iyang mata murag na awestruck coz he hasn't seen one of those for over 20yrs. hehehe...
    asa kaha na nitago-tago imo migo kay even now hueys are still in service in the US air force, navy, army and marine units, and in the armed forces of other countries. hehehe

  4. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by cdburgh View Post
    asa kaha na nitago-tago imo migo kay even now hueys are still in service in the US air force, navy, army and marine units, and in the armed forces of other countries. hehehe
    basin kato na variant sa UH-1 bro.. basin maka distinguish sya kada variant nya kato na variant dugay na nya la nakit-an.. hehe

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  6. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by salbahis View Post
    IHMO, most of the comment neglected the COST OF OWNERSHIP of an aircraft, it's not just the acquisition, but it goes beyond that.... the cheapest MRF are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy expesive to maintain we could maybe maintain one one fly for few months... look at this angle also if we are able to buy one..
    - training of the pilots
    - maintenance of the airframe
    - fuel
    - armaments
    - avionics
    - etc...

    we are fighting in COIN arena, we needed more of those heavy and medium lift transport.... jets are way too inpractical for now.... naa may plano ang PAF to buy MRF or iterim fighter, but now kay naay mas imptante kay sa ana.... but don't worry F-16 are on the top of PAF list....

    it's free to dream.. but it will just dissapoint you.... better dream of something practical...
    naa pu diay taga timawa dinhi! good day bai!
    Audentes Fortuna Juvat

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    so sad, but true... diri raba tawn nagwork dati ako papa.. maayo nalang retired na sya...

  8. #298
    Quote Originally Posted by zurita10 View Post
    Philippine Airforce - does it exist?

    You can never belong to the weakest if it's not there.

    evil grin
    I does exist bro. And if u didn't realized that, maybe it's u who does not exist. You should be proud of our air force for doing what they can with what they have. I pity u for your remarks.

  9. #299
    I have read a lot of your posts and this is my 2 cents on the matter as to why our Air force is in the state it is in. It really just boils down to economics and social order. So here it goes:

    The Philippines is still a third world country "trying" to provide jobs, basic services and education to its people. Economically we lag behind our neighbors. If you are in the middle class, which I assume most posters here are, then most of the time you are around your fellow middle class who have jobs and those who are in college finishing their courses. What you DON'T realize and aren't exposed to are the many poor people out there trying to make ends meet. The disparity between students who have a college education and are in school compared to those who are poor and can't afford to go to college is gigantic, to say the least.

    Our population is made up of more than 2/3 poverty-stricken people. Living in the city has made us blind to this, I believe, because we just CAN'T SEE IT with our own eyes. We only see those who are working in call centers and working other "good paying" jobs, which is only a tiny fraction compared to most who live on a salary of less than 6K a month. Many of these underpayed people live outside the city and in the provinces. Talk about being poor and uneducated. Where can our economy go with this?

    The social structure here in the Philippines is also different from other countries. When you cite an example of a poor African country having high-end helicopters in their Air Force you have to understand these countries are most probably being ruled by a military junta. Their tyranical leaders need advanced weapons in order to rule with an iron fist. In the Philippines we have a social structure based not on tyranny but on feudalism or something very similar to it.

    The old rich families, who are mostly chinese and spanish, govern the country almost like feudal lords by controlling virtually all businesses. These businesses are passed on from one generation to another so in turn the wealth is kept within their families. The few prosper while the many will languish and suffer...forever. They do not need an Air Force with advanced fighters if they can economically suppress the people by usurping all the wealth. This structure has worked for the rich and continues to do so.

    Aside from this there is the graft and corruption within the government. Coincidentally, the government is comprised of individuals who come from these rich families I have just mentioned. The country is just one big money making machine for them.

    Why do think wages are low, you have 48/hr working weeks, the poor are uneducated and most pinoys can never get a decent home for themselves. You think the ones in control will pro-actively allow things to change for the better to make everything more even and fair?? Hell no! Time to open your eyes, see the big picture! This is the social order in the country.

    So why in God's name would this government, which is controlled by these wealthy and corrupt families, want to spend money on trying to modernize the Air Force?? They would rather put the funds into their own pockets. If worse comes to worst they can take the next first class flight out of here if we get into a war with one of our neighboring countries. They will watch from afar as YOUR families are slaughtered and just wait for the U.S. to finally come to our defense and reestablish peace. Then they return to start the same money making cycle all over again.

    Sorry, the Philippine Air Force will never be modernized as long as the same economic and social order exists.

    I would like to mention more things but I think this will do. My 2 cents on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdburgh View Post
    asa kaha na nitago-tago imo migo kay even now hueys are still in service in the US air force, navy, army and marine units, and in the armed forces of other countries. hehehe
    updated models of the Huey pud na bro, not the Vietnam war types. Ang atoa nga Vietnam Ware models paman na. tan-awa ang state of the unit.

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