Second Look on Islam

[the_wandering_slasher]

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Grabeha sad gud. Do you personally agree on this?

any religion that authorizes or glorifies murder of the innocent or non-believers are f*cktards!

Now, do these kind of religion deserve respect and should be immune from our criticism, satire, or mocking?

[boxingfan529]

defensive? well dont ask para dili ko defensive.

Sir i am just telling you the truth and indeed "nagpataka ka" ayaw gud ka sensetive sir. Well anyone is welcome to ask but dont tell me how to respond.


evading your question? i already gave you the answer sir.


naa na pod...

ingun ko nga ang akong toohan katong original dili ng naa ninyo karun kung original na inyong bible karun ako ng toohan pero kung dili na original dili ko motoo ana.

Bible scholars arte not primarily believers of the book? Naunsa naman ka sir oi. Cge pangutana ng mga believers sa book kung orignal ba ng inyong bible karun. Ikaw ni angkon naman gani ka nga dili na original.

I will answer your question about the hadith after the above question is settled kay mag ambak ambak nya ta.


If you find my tone strong sorry ana pero ingun ana jud ko makigstorya but it doesnt mean nga nasuko ko nimo or anyone here. Saon man gud kasagaran nakong ma storya nga naa sa laing pagtoo isog man pod gud sa live. So nasanay na.

i started my questions in an informative manner and respectable one. so i expect such from you too. fair enough, dba? mag ingon gani ka nga 'pataka', etc. insulting na bai kay you haven't heard my references and explanation and either way, you would like the conversation more confrontational which i think di jud ka ganahan.

we only want here some good intellectual and information discussion. in which everyone can learn and understand more about faith (with this thread the islam faith). i think you want that to happen, dba?

about the torah, do you suggest that all its content is corrupted? if it is partly, then what is in the current torah that is not corrupted? does the quran talks about an uncorrupted torah teaching? if there is, can you enumerate them?

about the psalms, i was telling you that some muslims believe that the current version is not corrupted. as i observe in your answer, murag di ka gatuo. do you know why other muslims believe that the current psalms version in the bible is not corrupted?

so you dont believe that not all bible scholars are believers, tama ba? then you are wrong to assume. (though some might have been believers before). here's the proof: Dr. Bart D. Ehrman check his lectures: YouTube - Misquoting Jesus, Stanford Lecture, How Bible Tainted 1/10

[Malic]

asa may mas decent sir mocking ur religion or killing people in the name of ur religion.. now think about it..
hehe...
mockery is my own way of protesting against the evil teachings of religion...
and for me killing people in the name of god is an act of immorality...

is this in relation to the subject of jihad? fighting in the cause of Allah?

If this is then this is my answer to you sir. W/c is wise, to fight to the point of killing your enemy or be wiped out by your enemy? w/c do you think is more DECENT?

You see in mockery you are showing your immaturity, in fighting because you are preserving the lives of your families and brothers is honorable and God will give you a reward for that.


there is no honor in mockery.

[Malic]

have you heard the news regarding Commander Bravo? MILF leader daw sa niatake atong sa lanao nga nipatay ug 38/36 civilians? ingon sya pagbuot daw to ni Allah... ang pagpatay atong civilians pagbuot ni Allah? why mao man jud ni irason nila bro Malic? can you comment on this?

Yes its so tragic, mga misguided man gud ni sila sir. I dont approve of this kind of act.

Ila man gud ni e out of context ang mga verses sa Qur'an sir. Sakyan ug propaganda sa mga extremists nga mga political islam mao nay mahitabo,nya kulang ug guidance sa sakto nga mga scholars,sipyat jud ang ilang mga pagtoo. Unsa ra gud ang educatioal attainment ani nila sir.

[Malic]

any religion that authorizes or glorifies murder of the innocent or non-believers are f*cktards!

opinions are welcome sir.


but consider the context of those wars.

[silent-kill]

...and that is why religion is the leading cost of war....

[Malic]

Sir Malic, from the conversations on your thread it seems that you are unable to deliver to us (other denominations) what your religion is about but instead you tried to evade and has been overly defensive about the criticisms and comments about what we know about Islam. Before starting this thread, you must have thought that this situation is very possible knowing that you are leaving in a country where Islam is the minority.

sorry sir ha, ma hunong man gud, tungod sa mga questions ba.

evade? kinsa man akong gi evade sir? so far si Wandering slahser ra man ang akong gi evade purposely kay gusto ko mag debate niya LIVE para ma under mi sa rule.

of course of ocurse i have expectations nga naa jud mga tao nga dili mo agree. Pero sa akong pagtubag nila depende pod sa klase sa tone nga ilang gamiton. Kung tinarung aw tarungun.kung mag binoang aw dili pod seryosohon. Mockery is not worth answering.

[Malic]

Now, do these kind of religion deserve respect and should be immune from our criticism, satire, or mocking?

oh sir dont get me wrong,you can mock all you want BUT if you want to get into a sincere debate you should act properly.

[pnoize]

Now, do these kind of religion deserve respect and should be immune from our criticism, satire, or mocking?

yes and no. yes, it still deserves respect and no, it is not immune to criticism. we are all adults here and must be able to tactfully question and critcize. mockery has no place in a religious discussion.

[r3roble]

Yes its so tragic, mga misguided man gud ni sila sir. I dont approve of this kind of act.

Ila man gud ni e out of context ang mga verses sa Qur'an sir. Sakyan ug propaganda sa mga extremists nga mga political islam mao nay mahitabo,nya kulang ug guidance sa sakto nga mga scholars,sipyat jud ang ilang mga pagtoo. Unsa ra gud ang educatioal attainment ani nila sir.

i think you're right about them...
let's just hope nga dili ni modako ug maayo kay luoy pud ang ato mga igsoon nga maangin...