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    ang multi processing design sa AMD Bulldozer microarchitecture... from the 1st gen (Bulldozer) to the 4th gen Bulldozer-derived (w/c is the Excavator) kay CMT (Cluster-based Multithreading) ang design. inferior lang gyud sa Intel's SMT (Simultaneous Multithreading). fact man ni. dili ni ika likay... we'll, CMT was very nice in paper though but in real word application, its the other way around... AMD could not beat intel's IPC... crippled ang performance design sa AMD's CMT...

    maong karon, ning adopt sa full SMT ang AMD on their ZEN microarchitecture... so, if you can't beat 'em... join 'em... hahaha... ahaka, naka mata ang AMD. sa business pa, "Why re-invent the wheel?"... this statement holds true on this move by AMD.

    currently, ni adopt sila sa footstep sa intel... they might pay a royalty fee sa intel ani or, gi tweak nila gamay and design para dili sila maka bayad ug royalty fee... if nag bayad sila'g royalty fee sa Blue, haya2x aning Blue sa negosyo nila baya. saka mayo ang stock price ani nila... hehehe...

    anyhow, basta reasonable ang price aning RYZEN on both CPU and mobo, aw, basin mag una ko ninyo ani nya... hehehe...



    pahabol...

    kaning SMT, dili man ang Intel ang nag una ani pud... no idea ko kun nag bayad ba ug royalty fee ang intel sa innovator (owner) sa ani na technology... or, kun gi tweak nila then patented it to be their own...

    para sa akoa, dili ni failure sa AMD ang CMT kun mag istorya ta'g raw performance. wla lang gyud nila ma surpass ang competition. naa man gyud 1st dba? wala lang ma 1st ang AMD sa ani na time... but, ang failure nila kay ang marketing. subra kaayo'g palami. dili mao sa kamato-oran. maong taas kaayo'g expectation ang mga tao kay lagi, in paper, pagka nindot basahon, paminawon ug huna2x-on... gggrrrr... kaayong ihi-an sa lapa2x sa mga marketing team sa AMD atong panahona...
    Last edited by lloyd_joy; 12-23-2016 at 02:14 AM.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by harhar View Post
    Note lang guys ang architect aning Zen nga gi ilisan ug name to Ryzen kay si Jim Keller ang architect sa athlon. Ambot kinsay architect anang fail nga bulldozer. Ang fx fail ba pod? Murag dli, hinay lang jud cya compara sa intel.

    So mao lagi unta mabalik na ang competition.
    Bcin mubalik na ang scenario back in the days
    comparison for
    Athlon XP vs Pentium 3
    AMD fx 64 bit vs Pentium 4

  3. #23
    Bulldozer came out at the wrong time. Ato panahona poor pa kaau ang multicore support in both games and apps mao pagawas mas na highlight ang poor ipc. If mutan.aw ta sa mga updated reviews karon sa apps na makautilize ug multi core, ang 8 core piledriver makatupong na siya if not makalabaw sa i7-2700k. But anyway past is past. Ryzen is the future so lets stop dwelling sa failures of the past. Bag.o na ang CEO, bag.o na ang lead architect, gi revamp na sa amd ila tawo from top to bottom. Lets hope for the best pero ayaw padala sa hype. Media these days, you dont watch the news you are uninformed, you watch the news you're misinformed. Learn to separate BS news from whats not.

  4. #24
    then again, many programs are still looking for Intel's SSE 4.2 instruction sets

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Guru View Post
    then again, many programs are still looking for Intel's SSE 4.2 instruction sets
    Ang AMD naa mansad ana diba?

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by harhar View Post
    Ang AMD naa mansad ana diba?
    yep, but some programs are looking jud for the particular Intel SSE Instructions set. I think market manipulation kani.

  7. #27
    if mu comeback? kailangan panig pla ka years or more.. para ma showcase nilag balik kay murag pla ka steps behind na tngli ni sila karon. and akong d ganahan ani AMD kay kusog kaau mo hype sa commercials ug sa ila boxes ig tanaw nmo napuno sa tabi ilang karton. puhon ma panic ni sa red ang blue. para zoom ahead tanan, pero ang kwartahan ray dali maka palit. paeta nako ani.

  8. #28
    ato ning i.up kay Q1 nah mao man daw ang release sa RYZEN.hehehe...i've heard na mas barato daw ang ryzen vs sa intel, well lets see nlng sa mga review... price-to-performance ratio atong bantayan

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    PRO will most likely go to OEM builds
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