What's your thought on CHR (Commission on Human Rights)

[quantum]

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Kaning gipusil ni Regis ngano wala man reaction ang CHR?
Kusog lang na sila mureact if naay pamatyn mga pulis ug militar. Pero pag pulis/mo;otar na gani mangamatay hilom na sila. Tanawa ila reaction atong 3 ka minors nga namatay sa Davao.
Diri sa Cebu daghan minors gaoperate nga mga kawatan. Madakpan unya i-release lang sad dayon sa mga pulis kay kuno wala silay mahimo kay minors man.
Last week akong kaila gikawat iya celphone, gireport sa pulis. After abt 4 days nadakpan sa may B. Rodrigues nangawat ug cigarettes kahon kahon. Asa naman karon? Gibuhian kay minors kuno walay mahimo ang pulis. DIli man lang nila irefer sa uban agencies ni> Sakto ra gyud nga mga kriminals big or small pamatyon para malimpyo ang katilingban.

[cliff_drew]

Not sure kung nana thread about CHR, but i just want to know what others think about Commission on Human Rights?

Under the Constitution, these are the powers and functions of the CHR:

Section 18. The Commission on Human Rights shall have the following powers and functions:

1. Investigate, on its own or on complaint by any party, all forms of human rights violations involving civil and political rights;
2. Adopt its operational guidelines and rules of procedure, and cite for contempt for violations thereof in accordance with the Rules of Court;
3. Provide appropriate legal measures for the protection of human rights of all persons within the Philippines, as well as Filipinos residing abroad, and provide for preventive measures and legal aid services to the under-privileged whose human rights have been violated or need protection;
4. Exercise visitorial powers over jails, prisons, or detention facilities;
5. Establish a continuing program of research, education, and information to enhance respect for the primacy of human rights;
6. Recommend to Congress effective measures to promote human rights and to provide for compensation to victims of violations of human rights, or their families;
7. Monitor the Philippine Government's compliance with international treaty obligations on human rights;
8. Grant immunity from prosecution to any person whose testimony or whose possession of documents or other evidence is necessary or convenient to determine the truth in any investigation conducted by it or under its authority;
9. Request the assistance of any department, bureau, office, or agency in the performance of its functions;
10. Appoint its officers and employees in accordance with law; and
11. Perform such other duties and functions as may be provided by law.

Source: 1987 Philippine Constitution - The LawPhil Project

Now, take note of the bold ones on what kind of violations does the CHR is tasked in protecting the people.

1. Investigate, on its own or on complaint by any party, all forms of human rights violations involving civil and political rights;

Civil and political rights, by definition:

civil and political rights are the rights that generally restrict the powers of the government in respect of actions affecting the individual and his or her autonomy (civil rights), and confer an opportunity upon people to contribute to the determination of laws and participate in government (political rights).

Source: Civil and Political Rights

Sakto jud ai. Mo tingog ra jud na sila no kung naay criminals pamatyon. Did they ever make some noise when a 2year old kid was raped? Haaaaaay.

So kanang gi rape nga bata wala nay labot sa jurisdiction sa CHR. As long as dili government or public official ang involved, you will never hear any from their side so why blame them in the first place. It's the job of the police instead to apprehend the criminals.

[cliff_drew]

Why do we even have them in the first place? Wala man na silay gamit intawn oi, ga parehas lang na sa SK. sige lang papansin sa media pero walay gi himo. Sige lang reklamo about certain 'violations' on human rights pero wala action. I've never heard them speak on behalf of the 'oppressed' kay katong mga kriminal may ilang labanan.

An agency that protects human rights is a must in every country. Yet Philippine CHR is not a perfect agency neither have a perfect system. Sa giingon pa sa uban, kaning agency-ha walay action or walay gamit. Sa iningles, "toothless". Do you know that they lack fiscal autonomy? Ang nagbuot sa budget kay ang taga Executive. And aside from budget issue, they basically lack prosecutorial powers. They only investigate and recommend violators for prosecution.

[cliff_drew]

palihug taronga ug basa imong own post.

basaha ug balik ang number 3.

Provide appropriate legal measures for the protection of human rights of all persons within the Philippines, as well as Filipinos residing abroad, and provide for preventive measures and legal aid services to the under-privileged whose human rights have been violated or need protection;

basaha na ug klaro OF ALL PERSONS.

Klaro man boss. Yes, you're correct nga all persons (either naa diri sa Pinas or in abroad) were their civil and political rights are violated manghilabot ang CHR ana. Check back sa #1, mao na ang limitation. Civil and political rights only. The reason why naay gipang file sa Congress nga i-amend ang function ug i-expand ang power CHR pero hangtod karon wala napasar.

[Scott Bernard]

I can compare CHR with the worthless organizations such as PETA, PAWS, etc.. (Animal Rights).

[cliff_drew]

there's a word there boss CIVIL. that means all the people or the ordinary people.

Mao bitaw boss all ordinary people but the thing is, the main actor (oppressor) should be either people from the GOVERNMENT or any public/law enforcement official inorder to CHR to get in. Come to think of it, wala silay labot kung naay gi rape ug gipatay nga bata o gipatay nga taxi driver after gitulis. Any crime basta civilian pud ang criminal hands off ang CHR ana. It's really a matter of jurisdiction. Pero in case of police brutality, torture, violent dispersal of activists, etc. These are the kind violations which CHR will investigate since the people involved are our police or in government.

Mao bitaw moingon ang uban, why man hilabtan sa CHR ang mga police. It's because it's their job. Dili man hinuon depensahan, it's because naa silay nakita nga violation. Now kinsa man ang wala nag follow sa ilang own job-description.

Who will check if a civilian violates? The police.
Who will check if the police/military violates? It's the CHR.
What are the criminals' civil rights? Right to fair trial/due process and freedom from torture/illegal detention.
What are the activists' civil/political rights? Right to express and freedom of assembly.

[Hammer_and_Sickle]

ang kining chr, equivalent ni siya sa word na "po" or "opo" sa tagalog. nindot ug meaning, apan ang gagamit mga wala'y kwenta, kusog kaayu mo ingun ug "po" or "opo" apan, grabe ka daug daugan, tanaw nila nato mga bisaya walay ayu mga yaya or katabang as portrayed sa mga shows sa tv, mga wala'y batasan, mag sige ug ingun ug "po" or "opo" pero wala'y nabuhat para mag usab sa ilang kaugalingon, mag sige labay bisan asa ug basura, sige pangihi bisan asa na paril(so far sa mga tagalog na akong kaila), sige kuha sa atong tax unya himoon ug lrt, mrt, nlex, slex, etc. unya wala ta naka pa himos. hahahaha

chr=opo=nindot pero wala'y gamit. maayu pa undangon

[ghostie2472]

An agency that protects human rights is a must in every country. Yet Philippine CHR is not a perfect agency neither have a perfect system. Sa giingon pa sa uban, kaning agency-ha walay action or walay gamit. Sa iningles, "toothless". Do you know that they lack fiscal autonomy? Ang nagbuot sa budget kay ang taga Executive. And aside from budget issue, they basically lack prosecutorial powers. They only investigate and recommend violators for prosecution.

And? So what if they lack those things? Why do we still have them when dili man lang diay sila tagaan ug budget para maka function ug tarong? Nag sweldo ta nila binuwan pero wala silay gamit, maypa i shutdown nalang na sila. Maayo pa ang mga Metro Aides kay gamit pa compared nila.

[adminroot]

CRIMINAL HAWSHAW RIGHTS

puro lang ni sila riklamo pro wa juy natabang sa mga nabiktima

[ghostie2472]

I can compare CHR with the worthless organizations such as PETA, PAWS, etc.. (Animal Rights).

Murag lahi ra man brad. Kay sa animal rights, lisud man if ang owner ang dili willing mo complaint. I was part of the team nga ni gukod atong Alfred Alindao, incident to siya sa pag sablig ug adic sa mga iro, for which namatay jud ang mga iro. Wala may willing mo reklamo (aside namo sa animal rights) so lisud ma push through ang kaso, we even had lawyers from PAWS, IRO, and CSDC nga ni tabang namo ato but lisud kay wala willing mo stand up para sa mga abused dogs.