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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL


    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvil View Post
    Hinimo mana sa tawo bro or nag translate ana kay bias. Natural pabor gyud niya ang iyang sulat aron maka kwarta.

    Kaning man gud mga relihiyon karon manag lalis kay copetensiya-ay man gud ni sila aron maka tapok ug daghan tawo. Now, the more daghan tawo, the more daghan kwarta kay kada usa kono nato dapat mohatag ug kwarta. And naka daut man gud ani nila kay isig panaway sa usa ka relihiyon pud, isig bantaya'y sa sayop sa usa o sa ubang mga sayop. Akong nasabtan na tawo lamang kita subject to imperfection ang tawo. Kani pud sige'g panaway wala sad tan-awa ilang kaugalingon tugkaran.

    Sa pagka tinood lang kaning mga relihiyon ma katoliko, born-again, INC, Eli Soriano ug uban pa, MONEY-MAKING business man ni sila. Pa Holy-holy dayon aron ingnon mga yawa diay. Haay nako aning mga tawhana ug ako pay si Kristo dugay na tamo gipanglatos. Ako lang tambag ninyo ay, Maayo pa mag-ampo nalang mo walay hatagai ug kwarta. Kay kaning mga pastor, pari ug kinsa pa nang mga hipocrito dinha mga nawong rana ug kwarta.
    Fortunately for me, I do not belong to any of the groups you mentioned. Let's wait and see what the stand will be of those who are involved in this embarrassing news. I am watching this news item closely and will post any updates that I find regarding the topic and those involved.

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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

    Quote Originally Posted by eezychair View Post
    Garcia told Christy how he could smuggle an ivory Sto. Niño into the United States.“‘Wrap it in old, stinky underwear and pour ketchup on it … so it looks shitty with blood. This is how it is done,”’ Garcia told Christy."...


    LMFAO hahahhahahaa anaon na lang pud pag smuggle ug drugas aron lusot

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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

    Quote Originally Posted by DEMONOCIETY View Post
    LMFAO hahahhahahaa anaon na lang pud pag smuggle ug drugas aron lusot
    Funny as it may seem, this trick goes way back and if the customs guy still gets fooled by this, i wouldn't know what to think of him. But the more telling thing is how the good priest can 'teach' how to smuggle a clearly contraband item that he even assured he will 'bless'.

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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

    Quote Originally Posted by DEMONOCIETY View Post
    LMFAO hahahhahahaa anaon na lang pud pag smuggle ug drugas aron lusot
    maybe its worth considering, unsay credibility aning Christy.. NatGeo ba ni?

    kana rbang NatgEo ngka lami na sd ni sila.. mainstream media na kaayo.. grabi sd mo sensationalized..

    wala ko mo laban sa pari, ang ako lang, basin exaggerated ra pd ni ang reporting ni Christy..

    to quote easychiar:

    Quote Originally Posted by eezychair View Post
    "A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public opinion."

    Kibaw na ta nga naay (sic) yellow media, naay red, green ug uban pa. Naay black propaganda, pero naa say white ug gray. Kibaw sad ta nga daghang 'opinion' makers/columnists nga naay mga self interests. Ang importante lang, di lang nato tunlon ang gipanulti nga walay pangutana. Makat.on sad ta ug paminaw sa laing bahin ug sa pag tuki ug validate sa mga impormasyon nga atong madawat.

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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

    hahahahaha what an irony...

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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorothea View Post
    Ship this Monsignor off to Africa and release him in the wild, then let Donald Trump's sons hunt him down.
    Angay ni si pader tuhogon ug ivory sa iyang bobot.

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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

    di man ko suheto sa mga imahe noh kung unsa materyales ni gipambuhat sila. pero abi ko man og porcelain, kahoy og marmol ra gigamit pagbuhat ani. akong nahibalan ivory, gamit man ni pisa sa mahjong.

    tsk tsk tsk mao ni isa makawalay gana musimba. tungod aning mga SUV priests nato.

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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

    Quote Originally Posted by jack_bauer View Post
    maybe its worth considering, unsay credibility aning Christy.. NatGeo ba ni?

    kana rbang NatgEo ngka lami na sd ni sila.. mainstream media na kaayo.. grabi sd mo sensationalized..

    wala ko mo laban sa pari, ang ako lang, basin exaggerated ra pd ni ang reporting ni Christy..

    to quote easychiar:
    Sensationalized or not, the embarrassing issue is out and best person to respond to this is the monsignor himself. Unfortunately, 'sick leave' and unreachable. This is more of a moral issue and not political one hence it would serve the monsignor well to clear this thing up sooner rather than later.
    Last edited by eezychair; 09-25-2012 at 06:05 PM.

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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

    Christ himself

    The report said some Filipinos believed that the Sto. Niño de Cebu (Holy Child of Cebu) was Christ himself. It noted that 16th century Spaniards “declared the icon to be miraculous and used it to convert the nation, making this wooden statue, housed today behind bulletproof glass in Cebu’s Basilica Minore de Sto. Niño, the root from which all Filipino Catholicism has grown.” The Sto. Niño is believed to be a replica of the icon devotees believe Ferdinand Magellan brought to Cebu in 1521.

    “I don’t call it extravagant,” said Fr. Vicente Lina Jr. (Father Jay), director of the Diocesan Museum of Malolos and curator of his archdiocese’s annual Sto. Niño exhibit). “‘I call it an offering to God.’ He surveys the child images, some of which are decorated in ‘lagang,’ silvery mother of pearl flowers carved from nautilus shells,” said in the report.

    Crooked line

    “When it comes to Sto. Niño devotion too much is not enough. As a priest, I’ve been praying, ‘If all of this stuff is plain stupid, then God, put a stop to this,’” Father Jay was quoted as saying in the report.

    He went as far as saying that the ivory used for the statues were smuggled but for him, “it is like straightening up a crooked line.”

    “Father Jay points to a Sto. Niño holding a dove. ‘Most of the old ivories are heirlooms,’” Lina said. “‘The new ones are from Africa. They come in through the back door,’” he was quoted as saying.

    “‘It’s like straightening up a crooked line: You buy the ivory, which came from a hazy origin, and you turn it into a spiritual item. See?” Lina said, with a giggle. “His voice lowers to a whisper. ‘Because it’s like buying a stolen item,’” the report said.
    i almost puke after reading this, i read it again maybe i may have missed a word... and you call this stupid idiot a priest...

    an irony... too much hypocrisy... the stupidity is too damn high...

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    Default Re: Religious icons, 'Ivory Worship' and ivory smuggling in PHL

    Quote Originally Posted by i_the_mighty View Post
    di man ko suheto sa mga imahe noh kung unsa materyales ni gipambuhat sila. pero abi ko man og porcelain, kahoy og marmol ra gigamit pagbuhat ani. akong nahibalan ivory, gamit man ni pisa sa mahjong.

    tsk tsk tsk mao ni isa makawalay gana musimba. tungod aning mga SUV priests nato.
    Priests worshiper diay ka brod. instead to worship God through His church..

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