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    Default Re: programming for high school students


    Quote Originally Posted by SYNCH View Post
    I think I missed the point that I'm making.

    In the old days, there are only two computers shared by 40 students. Learning Assembly or C is high-level, interesting and fun. To create a DOS menu, move a block character with a cursor or mouse interrupts is such a big thing before. It feels so modern in those days.

    Nowadays, it's quite different and so is the generation. DOS mode is obsolete, Windows 3.1 is old fashioned and C is boring. But it does not mean it is wrong to continue using and learning them, in fact it should be taught after everything else, they are low-levels and subject for dissection in today's time.

    It is the teaching approach I'm looking at. Learning is supposed to be fun. C was fun in our days because of what we only have and what we only know but is it still in today's generation? Also note, today's generation is accelerated, visuals and lazy.

    My approach would be to start off with high-level and go down one step in detail until you found the handful who deserved to be taught because they stayed to learn more the inner takings (this is reverse to most curriculum that I know). High-level is not about graphics (e.g. Diablo), it's about teaching simple without overwhelming with details. It's like this, which is easier to learn C or VB? VB, no doubt, start from there and go deeper, e.g.:
    • Stage 1 - Run VB, create a form, a button and if pressed prompts a message box.
    • Stage 2 - Dig deeper, run Spy++, inspect the form, get the window classes and explain the win32 api
    • Stage 3 - Open VC++, create a form through CreateWindow with attributes we get from Stage 2
    • Stage N - Go deeper and you will arrive at C
    These are just my thoughts, experiments and arguments in preparation when I put up a school in not so far future. If you can think of loopholes on this idea, I appreciate comments. Thanks.
    I don't think applicable ni na imo approach kung HS students, imagina dli bya ni cla CS or IT students para explainan nmo ug win32 api. Mo agree pa guro ko sa tudluan nmo ug VB but VC++? hmm I think your teaching team intermediate C with an API without even teaching them the basics..

    for me para highschool basic foundation lang and use basic and ordinary language, use C or pascal, other than that, gilibog2 na nmo ang studyante specially katong wla planu mag CS or IT in the future. just let them learn the Basics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cebugdev View Post
    I don't think applicable ni na imo approach kung HS students, imagina dli bya ni cla CS or IT students para explainan nmo ug win32 api. Mo agree pa guro ko sa tudluan nmo ug VB but VC++? hmm I think your teaching team intermediate C with an API without even teaching them the basics..

    for me para highschool basic foundation lang and use basic and ordinary language, use C or pascal, other than that, gilibog2 na nmo ang studyante specially katong wla planu mag CS or IT in the future. just let them learn the Basics.
    I agree. Mas dali man gud itudlo ug sabton ang C compared sa uban nga language. Specially when you are talking about the very basic foundation sa programming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_eds View Post
    Hello guys!

    I need your opinion on what is the best programming language to be taught in high school. Kana untang magamit nila and dili kaayo complicated..salamat!
    we had HTML sauna sa pg1st year namu.. nya VB pg4th year..

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    sa ako g trabahoan na school ky ila gi teach ky HTML, CSS, JAVA, PHP (pru karon nag g change na nla ang PHP into ROBOTICS)

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    di nalng ko mo saba unsa gi tudlo sa amo panahon kay ma klaru ang edad.. hahaahaha! +1 ko sa C programming naka bantay ko mao man permi i.tudlo unsa sa mga computer course.

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    mao man gud ang good foundation para sa programming ang C language

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    Sus, hayahaya sa HS ron oi.. kami sauna pag 4th yr na nakagunit og PC nya MS Applications pajud to. Anyways that was 5 years ago. Ahmn.. for me you should teach HTML, PHP, JAVA or C/C++. Mao nay gipamatay karon nga programmers. hehe. Bitaw dghan nagkinahanglan ani niya unya open source pajud.. If you need mga gamit naa ra sa internet tanan.

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    C bro kay mao na pag highschool nako. Anyway back on my highschool days my teacher told me that "kung kabaw ka sa programming sa computer mkabalos najud kag sugo sa computer.ehehe". mao ni naka inspire nako og nagka interest ko to become a programmer someday. With questions on my mind. G.unxa kaha nila pag buhat ang mga windows systems, websites, games, etc. mao to nag IT ko pag college then karon Web developer nako. ehehehe. . bitaw use words nga makacatch up sa attention imong students bro nya maka huna2 cla. kung wa ang programming way gadgets like Iphone, Samsung galaxy, etc. . I recommend C.

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    C jd ang dapat kay basic for programming jd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyot View Post
    C is the most suggested language of all why because 90 percent of languages as C-like language. Its like if a person wants to learn different tools to make things done. C is like a power tool that does it all. I've been teaching for almost 13yrs and right now working in a multi-national industry for 5yrs now and I noticed that better teach student to C rather than teaching lots of different language without mastering one. If you have problem I can help you on Student workbook.
    thanks bro! as i look at the different languages, i realized that C is really necessary..where can i get a student workbook?

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