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    Quote Originally Posted by vensoy View Post
    wala may consensya sa ge recruit. the bottom line is money.
    a pyramid cannot sustain further because of the current population of the place/city/country etc etc.


    i will never ever join that kind of business... i better invest my money on something more truthful not by deceiving someone "oi apil mo ani kay mas daku nig kita kay sa mo trabajo tah." see..
    and they will always say this "they just wanted to help other people para daw ma inform pud" same old line = MLM
    emu sab na opinion boss, in.ana sab ko saunah, let me say, ka2ng naay ga recruit nako sa uno, cge kog ingun nga wa nay au ang network marketing kay ang pinaka top ray madato pyramiding rna, look at UNO now? dako na au.. wlay nahtabo nako..wla ko ni improve...wla man ko ga ingun nga ang network marketing inyu only pag asa nga mo asenso mo..im just saying nga network marketing can help u if you want to succeed in life..if bitter jud au ang mga tao about sa network marketing ayaw lang mo pangapil..because in this business we don't need people who are very negative..bisan asa na i butang ang tao nga negative..negative jd na ang result. im just sharing this not to convince people nga mangapil jd cla...im just defending some MLM people nga gusto mo succeed.

    to tell you bro, im not asking you to join this business, were looking for aspiring entrepreneurs..people who have the desire in venturing this kind of business, people nga gnhan mo succeed, people nga open ang mind..kanang dili negative.

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    Poor Mentality: (Most filipinos are like this)
    To see is to believe

    Rich Mentality: (Most successful filipinos and chinese think this way)
    Believe it and you will see it. nothing is impossible

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    i am not here to join this business, im here to warn people. i dont need this kind of business i already have one.

    ang kasagaran ni sulod ani kana mang gusto mo DATO ug dali...hmmm..nag dali mahimong successful..dili successful sa ilang career why? because they are not good at proper/formal work, they like easy money.

    nindot ning site nga gihatag TS dah.. mang-drop man ug backdoor..
    JS/Iframe.BO trojan

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    para sa uban nga walay idea how MLM fails at sustainability.

    The People Machine
    Chernobyl had a control system that failed. MLMs have no control mechanisms at all.

    Where is the "switch" that can be flipped in an MLM when enough sales people are hired? In a normal company a manager says, "We have enough, let's stop hiring people at this point." But in an MLM, there is no way to do this. An MLM is a human "churning" machine with no "off button." Out of control by design, its gears will grind up the money, time, credibility, and entrepreneurial energy of well-meaning people who joined merely to supplement their income. Better to just steer clear of this monster to begin with.

    There is simply no way to avoid the built-in failure mechanism of MLMs. If a company chooses to market this way, it will eventually "hire" (with no base pay and charging to join) far too many people.

    Thus, the only "control system" will be the inevitable losses and subsequent bad image the MLM company will gain after it does what it was designed to do: fail. And sooner or later we have got to stop blaming this particular MLM company or that, and admit that the MLM technique itself is fundamentally flawed.

    Math and Common Sense
    MLMs work by geometric expansion, where you get ten to sponsor ten to sponsor ten, and so on. This is usually shown as an expanding matrix (just don't say "pyramid"!) with corresponding kick-backs at various levels.

    The problem here is one of common sense. At a mere three levels deep this would be 1,000 people. There goes the neighborhood! At six levels deep, that would be 1,000,000 people believing they can make money selling. But to whom? There goes the city! And the MLM is just getting its steam going. Think of all the meetings! Think of all the "dreams" being sold! Think of the false hopes being generated. Think of the money being lost.

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    It Will Fail It Cannot Fail
    Nothing irritates a die-hard MLMer more than the preceding argument. If you point out the absurdity, for example, that if "the pitch" at an Amway meeting were even moderately accurate, in something like 18 months Amway would be larger than the GNP of the entire United States, then listen closely for a major gear-shift: "Well, that is absurd, of course. Not everyone will succeed, and so the market will never saturate."

    Well, which is it? Are we recruiting "winners" to build a real business, or planning by design to profit off of "losers" who buy into our "confidence"?

    During "the pitch," anyone can make it work. "It's the opportunity of a lifetime." "Just look at the math!" But mention the inevitable saturation and the losses this is going to cause for everyone, and then you'll hear, "Of course it would never really work like that." "Most will fail," you will be told, "but not you, Mr. Recruit. You are a winner. I can just see it in your eyes."

    If you are a starry-eyed recruit, it will grow as presented. If you are a logical skeptic, then of course it would never really work like that.

    But the dialog usually never even gets to this. The fact that MLM is in a mad dash to oversupply is largely chided as mere "stinkin' thinkin'." Expert MLMers know how to quickly deflect this issue with parable, joke, personal testimony, or some other sleight of mind.

    Summary of What's Wrong With Multi-Level Marketing

    MLMs are "doomed by design" to recruit too many salespeople, who in turn will then attempt to recruit even more salespeople, ad infinitum.

    For many, the real attraction of involvement in multi-level marketing is the thinly veiled pyramid con-scheme made quasi-legal by the presence of a product or service.

    The ethical concessions necessary to be "successful" in many MLM companies are stark and difficult to deal with for most people.

    Friends and family should be treated as such, and not as "marks" for exploitation.

    source: http://www.vandruff.com/mlm.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by vensoy View Post
    It Will Fail It Cannot Fail
    Nothing irritates a die-hard MLMer more than the preceding argument. If you point out the absurdity, for example, that if "the pitch" at an Amway meeting were even moderately accurate, in something like 18 months Amway would be larger than the GNP of the entire United States, then listen closely for a major gear-shift: "Well, that is absurd, of course. Not everyone will succeed, and so the market will never saturate."

    Well, which is it? Are we recruiting "winners" to build a real business, or planning by design to profit off of "losers" who buy into our "confidence"?

    During "the pitch," anyone can make it work. "It's the opportunity of a lifetime." "Just look at the math!" But mention the inevitable saturation and the losses this is going to cause for everyone, and then you'll hear, "Of course it would never really work like that." "Most will fail," you will be told, "but not you, Mr. Recruit. You are a winner. I can just see it in your eyes."

    If you are a starry-eyed recruit, it will grow as presented. If you are a logical skeptic, then of course it would never really work like that.

    But the dialog usually never even gets to this. The fact that MLM is in a mad dash to oversupply is largely chided as mere "stinkin' thinkin'." Expert MLMers know how to quickly deflect this issue with parable, joke, personal testimony, or some other sleight of mind.

    Summary of What's Wrong With Multi-Level Marketing

    MLMs are "doomed by design" to recruit too many salespeople, who in turn will then attempt to recruit even more salespeople, ad infinitum.

    For many, the real attraction of involvement in multi-level marketing is the thinly veiled pyramid con-scheme made quasi-legal by the presence of a product or service.

    The ethical concessions necessary to be "successful" in many MLM companies are stark and difficult to deal with for most people.

    Friends and family should be treated as such, and not as "marks" for exploitation.

    source: What's Wrong With Multi-Level Marketing?
    Oh well, it is your own opinion, I am not here to argue about MLM. you have your own point of view, i have mine.
    But before you judge something or someone or any company..check it out first, listen to testimonials from other people.
    I don't blame you if you don't like MLM, some people like it so live with it.
    If you don't trust other people or this business..just tell your family member or friends not to join, its just plain simple. I dont need your money anyway,Im here to expand my network and meet other people so i can share different ideas and learn from them and share my success to them, f.y.i Network marketing is 10% of my time.
    Maybe in time you will just realize how wonderful network marketing is. Or maybe not..

    "Well, which is it? Are we recruiting "winners" to build a real business, or planning by design to profit off of "losers" who buy into our "confidence"?"
    -about this one..we are all born winners..people just tend to give up when things get rough. And some people just think that they cannot do things, and they love to focus more on the negative
    -By the way, we don't "RECRUIT" people who you call "Losers", because losers quit when they don't see the results. And they pass their negative aura to everyone in the business. As what the chinese believe.

    and there is another thread about MLM discussions here in istorya.net..might as well post your comments there..
    this thread is for people who want to try Network MArketing.

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    Regine Tolentino Vmobile Technopreneur


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    Ok, Vmobile was featured in GMA 7's Hanep Buhay Tv Show. it really shows na Vmobile is really nice


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