Aquino grants amnesty to rebel senator, troops

[mimigs]

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so you're saying it's ok to stage a coup de etat just because? you can never resolve evil with another evil.



Do you even know why those rapists were released? because they were too old to be in jail (70yrs old and above), it is lawful that they be released with proper recommendations from the DOJ and review of their cases and those were pardons, not amnesty.

so the rapist Jalosjos was already 70 and the murderer Rolito Go? LoL cmon

[FranZeno]

so the rapist Jalosjos was already 70 and the murderer Rolito Go? LoL cmon

1st those were pardons, not amnesties. there's a big difference there..but they're still free from jail.

2nd, Jalosjos was eligible for pardon per the constitution because he served 16yrs in prison (that's the minimum for rape) and has shown good deeds in jail, and those are the requirements

Rolito served more than half of his sentence, that's a requirement for pardon and the Maguan family accepted the civil damages paid by Go. And same as Teehankee, they both showed good characters in prison, that when calculated and converted as years, it would show that they have paid their full sentences in prison. It's the same with Jalosjos'

Even I am not in approval of Jalosjos' pardon, but it was done in accordance to the constitution.

Now, I don't know how or why PNoy gave amnesty (that's even greater than pardon) to the soldiers. But the way I see it, and accordg to the news, it seems to me it's a case of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", he even made it too obvious this time.

To add about GMAs amnesty on the CPP-NPA, it had limitation and the limitations were:

The amnesty will cover the crime of rebellion and all other crimes "in pursuit of political beliefs," but not including crimes against chastity, rape, torture, kidnapping for ransom, use and trafficking of illegal drugs and other crimes for personal ends and violations of international law or convention and protocols "even if alleged to have been committed in pursuit of political beliefs."

[ahyango]

He is putting up an administration that is the exact anatgonist of the Gloria administration.. Is this his idea of presidency? an eye for an eye? grabe... bastos.. way au..

[FAQ]

If you are disgusted of what Trillanes did, I wonder if y'all disgusted about the Katipunan. Lol !!

[mimigs]

He is putting up an administration that is the exact anatgonist of the Gloria administration.. Is this his idea of presidency? an eye for an eye? grabe... bastos.. way au..

so wala ga nabastusan sa kurakot ni gloria?

[FranZeno]

If you are disgusted of what Trillanes did, I wonder if y'all disgusted about the Katipunan. Lol !!

This is not about what Trillanes did, but what PNoy did. Giving amnesty and showing that rebellion is good as long as it is for a good cause. "Don't worry, coup de etat lang kayo ng coup de etat, may pardon nmn sa susunod na admin" LOL! He's showing that Magdalo is a good example, dpat he showed the Magdalo as an example na rebellion is not the answer para mbatian nyo daing ngad2 sa katawhan..

[KlaytoN]

valid cause

hahahaha... nkakatawa...!


kanus-a ba naging valid ang gubot?


nindot diay ni.. kay mag kudeta gani mga sundalo against noynoy. ok ra way kuyaw..
bahalag mawad-an work.. basta ang benifits in tact!

ok ra nang amnesty.. pero dapat no benifits.. bias kaayo na!
unsaon pagkatagam nila!

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Relax lang brad, know the facts muna before your blow yourself off. First of all, i don't care if you find my opinion funny or laughable. Read between the lines. Their "cause" and "means" are two different things. You're muddling up my comment. As what i've mentioned, mali yung paraan or "means" nila. But it doesn't invalidate their cause.

-All of them have been accorded restoration of their civil and political rights.
-All of them have been reinstated the right to retirement and separation benefits.
-Only the enlisted personnel shall be entitled to reinstatement or reintegration to the military service. Officers can't go back to the service.

I think its just fair to give them their benefits whether its amnesty or pardon. The Proclamation No 50 is just for formality's sake. They have been incarcerated for many years now, so i guess ang "pagtagam" or "pagbasol" is already there.

[FAQ]

This is not about what Trillanes did, but what PNoy did. Giving amnesty and showing that rebellion is good as long as it is for a good cause. "Don't worry, coup de etat lang kayo ng coup de etat, may pardon nmn sa susunod na admin" LOL! He's showing that Magdalo is a good example, dpat he showed the Magdalo as an example na rebellion is not the answer para mbatian nyo daing ngad2 sa katawhan..

People are taking this thing out of context. What's wrong giving amnesty to the Magdalo group? Noy2x was against the previous government so it's reasonable for him to do it. It's not like he'll grant amnesty to all Pinoy rebels from NPAs to Abu Sayaffs.

Sa title lang daan, "rebel senator" ... Pfffttt !!!!!

[FranZeno]

People are taking this thing out of context. What's wrong giving amnesty to the Magdalo group? Noy2x was against the previous government so it's reasonable for him to do it. It's not like he'll grant amnesty to all Pinoy rebels from NPAs to Abu Sayaffs.

Sa title lang daan, "rebel senator" ... Pfffttt !!!!!

Mao gani, he's taking it personal, he's giving them amnesty because he sees the enemy of his enemy as friends, is that how a president should think? he is disregarding the unlawful acts of a party just because para niya "dah! maau ra nimo GMA! kitaa ngrebelde nimo ang militar". Iya gipalabi ang causes sa rebellion against sa unlawful acts.

It's not like he's granting it to those rebels, but isn't he just a bit favoring the Magdalo for "doing a good job on rebelling against his predecessor GMA?"

Cmon, a president can do better than that.

TO ADD:

You are familiar with the saying "The end DOES NOT justify the means" right? Then the rebellion is a good example for that, no matter how good your reasons are for doing that but you take an immoral route, then it's an epic fail.

Take for example a student, he wants to get 100 in the exam so he cheats, the teacher caught him then m.ana ra ang teacher "Ok ra na dong, gusto mn kaha ka mk.100" His "ends" is good, to get 100, but do you think his "means" is right? And the teacher just gives him amnesty for that because his "ends" is ok?

Now, think of the teacher as PNoy.


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[KlaytoN]

In the end, this amnesty proclamation will NOT be the sole decision of PNoy. It will be pending the approval of congress and senate. The latest update in the news is saying that "Nasa kongreso at senado na ang proklamasyon. Kagabi pa lang, pirmado na ng mahigit isang daan at limampung (150) kongresista ang resolusyon na naghihimuk sa pangulo na bigyan na ng amnesty ang mga sundalo. Indikasyon, na tiyak na ang pagtibay ng amnesty."

Now what major political party comprise the congress?? AFAIK, majority in congress is still under GMA's Lakas Kampi CMD. Guys this will dispel your thoughts about "an eye for an eye". Clearly, this is NOT a case of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". Dili ni sya dumot.