Pope acknowledges church failures in abuse scandal

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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@ HITCH22 ....

To what extent did the authorities do ? Mind you there are INTERPOL and what did they do also ? The POPE may be the most powerful and influential leader on earth , more than the powers of the 3 1st world nations combined but he is not above the law .

It is not right to say that he is under the PROTECTION of RATZINGER because you are now simply saying that the POPE is CONDONING a CRIMINAL .

What I am saying here is , by all means when we follow the logic of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY , did you follow the case of the child abuse victim and what really happened ?

Did you guys even took notice of the REAL VICTIMS also which is ang mga CATHOLIC PRIEST na gi exploit pod sa kadaghanan na nanglugos daw or ga abuse daw ug sakristan , babay or anyone aron mapangwartahan ang simbahan ? I doubt because all you guys wanted are the loopholes , technicalities and negative issues of the church . Can I blame you guys for that ? No ... obviously because you and the rest of the atheist community are not interested on good deeds and I do hope not the anti christ because if we are in the same page it would be stupid .




@ TINGKAGOL ....

I dont know ... you tell me what was done and if the CRIME eradicated already maski sa city man lang .

You are lost bai . We are discussing here CRIMINAL OFFENSE and not the SACRILEGE OFFENSE commited by priest and members of the church .

On your other link ... it clearly emphasizes that VATICAN wants a share of the INVESTIGATION because it will also sanction the guilty parties . Take not of the word GUILTY ... that already surpassed the word ACCUSED .

[Dark-Knight]

..regain their trust in the church..

This will not be easy for them kay daghan na jud simang karon na mga pari, dili lang sa abuse involved but also in immorality - naay babaye. Sad to say these things resulted to some people not to hear mass every Sunday tungod sa kadaghan sa issues sa mga pari.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

^^^^

Wala nay basehan bai . Kusog lang gihapon ang halin sa ostiyas karon ug mompo .

[hitch22]

@ HITCH22 ....
To what extent did the authorities do ? Mind you there are INTERPOL and what did they do also ? The POPE may be the most powerful and influential leader on earth , more than the powers of the 3 1st world nations combined but he is not above the law .

It is not right to say that he is under the PROTECTION of RATZINGER because you are now simply saying that the POPE is CONDONING a CRIMINAL .

What I am saying here is , by all means when we follow the logic of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY , did you follow the case of the child abuse victim and what really happened ?

Did you guys even took notice of the REAL VICTIMS also which is ang mga CATHOLIC PRIEST na gi exploit pod sa kadaghanan na nanglugos daw or ga abuse daw ug sakristan , babay or anyone aron mapangwartahan ang simbahan ? I doubt because all you guys wanted are the loopholes , technicalities and negative issues of the church . Can I blame you guys for that ? No ... obviously because you and the rest of the atheist community are not interested on good deeds and I do hope not the anti christ because if we are in the same page it would be stupid .

Spring, I have to point out that it is not the atheist community that's pursuing the child rape scandal. It's the Catholic community in Massachusetts. I'm just giving my observation.

Is the Pope condoning a criminal? If he keeps covering up and protecting Bernard F. Law, then YES. Mind you, the Cardinal is wanted by the grand jury in Boston (click here to read). The Pope has to surrender him to authorities so he can face trial. That's what we have trials for, to determine guilt or innocence. A trial is not a conviction, in case you have forgotten that. It means there is probable cause to warrant a trial, and the jury will decide on the matter based on the evidence.

I hope people stop making excuses and blaming atheists if we give our comments about the child rape scandal. Stop pretending that priests and bishops are these white-as-snow angels. There's a reason why they call their followers a "flock of sheep" or some other livestock (actually, in Papua New Guinea, the priests call their congregation "swine", because the natives can't relate to a sheep). Look, shepherds take care of their flock, not because they love them, but because when time comes, they can fleece them and butcher them for their meat.

[necrotic freak]

^^dili diay maka serve ug warrant of arrest ang Interpol kung naa sa Vatican ang wanted?

[hitch22]

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para dili ta ingnon nga biased ang source, i-paste na lang nako ang comment gikan sa Catholics for Choice website (click here to read)

It is worth noting that the Holy See's claims to statehood change depending on the circumstances. In recent years the Holy See has, when convenient, both asserted and renounced its statehood. Recently, and nearly simultaneously, the Holy See claimed statehood to ask for diplomatic immunity from s-e-x abuse cases in the United States while denying statehood to refuse cooperation with the International Criminal Court. Often, when denying its state status, the Holy See instead claims to be a religious institution, accompanied by demands that the First Amendment of the United States Constitution protect the actions of the church after claims that members of the hierarchy mismanaged allegations of sexual abuse.

I commend that Catholic organization for calling the Vatican to task. That's what I think a true morally concerned human being should be, someone not beholden to institutions and personalities but to one's innate values and sense of justice.

[peewee_toot]

@springfield

honestly lng sir noh, padung na unta mi mo file og case sa pari but before mi ni seek og help sa authority ky nagpa consulta mi sa taga sulod (preist). based lng sa among na experience noh, kay daghan man mi kaila nga mga pari and usa sa among parente ky pari mn pd, they advised us not to file a case cause magkapoy2x lng daw mi. mahulog ra sd daw na sa wala ky, based on our experience and what the other close priests told us, they (priest) tend to cover up the wrong doings of their members to protect the good image of the religion. hahaiz.

[sHenZee03]

Such an interesting topic with interesting clashes. ^_^

[Count of Monte Cristo]

has there ever been a priest arrested and tried and convicted because of sexual abuse?

[peewee_toot]

^^murag hilum mn sir...