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  1. #21

    Quote Originally Posted by lstorya View Post
    you didnt answer the question TS,how did you start and how would you start without the capital?
    i want some minds to get involve in this thread and not give out everything...
    now bro if u can answer my question on how can P10 make a car painting business.
    ill be pleased f ul get involved in creating good ideas.
    Last edited by cirext; 02-25-2010 at 09:36 AM.

  2. #22
    @ cirext:
    Thanks.

    It is indeed a good idea to start with the skills. I actually began to gun for the big things, thinking the start-with-skills strategy ain't that good.

    Quote Originally Posted by cirext View Post
    i want some minds to get involve in this thread and not give out everything...
    now bro if u can answer my question on how can P10 make a car painting business.
    ill be pleased f ul get involved in creating good ideas.
    Used the P10 for advertisement and began from there?

  3. #23
    TS Im in the same bandwagon as you are. I perfectly understand what you meant. The road less taken concept was even in the book of Robert Kiyosaki's "rich dad poor dad" (or was it?). Anyway I believe in Enterpreneurship because it is what I do now after years of employment. But the thing is, it is still the road less taken. why? because it's a rough road (no security and bumpy with all competitions and redicule from friends and families), it is a high road (every day is a step of faith, or a walk of faith "No sales, no earning" you have to pray hard and work hard), and it's a risk. People want an 8-hour job with less risk and more "comfort" that is the norm for most people. Anyway I know in as much as you want to bring people to take this road (don't be frustrated), you will only take a few or less; the one that you could only inspire is yourself. You need a lot of those up ahead.

    Peace braa

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    its coz you stated that capital us not needed when starting a business,for that,we actually need proof since a mere parable wont suffice and wont apply in the practical world.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by jeremiahjay View Post
    TS Im in the same bandwagon as you are. I perfectly understand what you meant. The road less taken concept was even in the book of Robert Kiyosaki's "rich dad poor dad" (or was it?). Anyway I believe in Enterpreneurship because it is what I do now after years of employment. But the thing is, it is still the road less taken. why? because it's a rough road (no security and bumpy with all competitions and redicule from friends and families), it is a high road (every day is a step of faith, or a walk of faith "No sales, no earning" you have to pray hard and work hard), and it's a risk. People want an 8-hour job with less risk and more "comfort" that is the norm for most people. Anyway I know in as much as you want to bring people to take this road (don't be frustrated), you will only take a few or less; the one that you could only inspire is yourself. You need a lot of those up ahead.

    Peace braa
    Hello bro. Thanks for the information. I actually dont love reading books especially long text-based ones. Just heard from some people about Robert Kyosaki. But nevertheless I guess I may have same principle with this guy because people had been telling me im using his words.

    I am agreeing with all the things you are saying bro. Entrepreneurship is one tough career. For those who love to challenge themselves, this is the real test. The lowest point is really deep down underground. The highest on the other hand would exceed heavens. Its a roller coaster ride. And for that, I definitely salute those who have survived this path.

    I had actually experienced what you mean. I even stole rice from my parents to let myself survive. I experienced moral persecution from them because they don't understand me. But I cling to the faith that God reaches those who suffered for good. Now, I was able to achieve far from those people around me. I brag of it. I take pride on it. Because i worked real hard for this.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by roadrash09 View Post
    @ cirext:
    Thanks.

    It is indeed a good idea to start with the skills. I actually began to gun for the big things, thinking the start-with-skills strategy ain't that good.

    Used the P10 for advertisement and began from there?

    Yes your answer is right bro. P10 was used to photocopy his hand-written ads. He posted it in the posts.
    But what strategy did he use? He don,t even have a paint to do the job and some other tools?

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by lstorya View Post
    its coz you stated that capital us not needed when starting a business,for that,we actually need proof since a mere parable wont suffice and wont apply in the practical world.
    Capital is actually needed. To be technical about it, there are types of capital.
    Traditionally, financial capital is really important & a must-have prior to starting. It is still applicable to most businesses now.

    However, in absence of money, you shouldn't just shrug your shoulders and say, "Hey I dont have money. I just cant start."

    I'm presenting a theory that there are possible ways to start without money.

    Capital is SOMETHING YOU HAVE prior to starting.
    Financial capital is one. But if you dont have it, you have other types of capital.
    Now, think! What are the things you have except money?..that would help in the business.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by cirext View Post
    Capital is actually needed. To be technical about it, there are types of capital.
    Traditionally, financial capital is really important & a must-have prior to starting. It is still applicable to most businesses now.

    However, in absence of money, you shouldn't just shrug your shoulders and say, "Hey I dont have money. I just cant start."

    I'm presenting a theory that there are possible ways to start without money.

    Capital is SOMETHING YOU HAVE prior to starting.
    Financial capital is one. But if you dont have it, you have other types of capital.
    Now, think! What are the things you have except money?..that would help in the business.
    You know what, in technical terms there are ways to be an entrepreneur without capital (though I haven't done this), this is what they call, "laway ra ang puhunan". Because our neighbors that are involve in trading; they get the clients, ask suppliers for terms (in whatever way like befriending them) get back to the clients, pay the suppliers that's it. And this is how they raise and feed their families.

    In one way or another the saying goes "if their is a will, there is a way" can be very applied.

    But at the end of the day they should never do something which they are not comfortable doing. According to Zig Ziglar, "Don't go to selling if you don't love it" (paraphrased).

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by jeremiahjay View Post
    You know what, in technical terms there are ways to be an entrepreneur without capital (though I haven't done this), this is what they call, "laway ra ang puhunan". Because our neighbors that are involve in trading; they get the clients, ask suppliers for terms (in whatever way like befriending them) get back to the clients, pay the suppliers that's it. And this is how they raise and feed their families.

    In one way or another the saying goes "if their is a will, there is a way" can be very applied.

    But at the end of the day they should never do something which they are not comfortable doing. According to Zig Ziglar, "Don't go to selling if you don't love it" (paraphrased).
    There goes a good answer.
    ZERO Capitalization is not a new thing.
    It has been done by previous people ahead of our generation.

    However, i may be revising Ziglar's thought... And this is for me. "If you don't love selling, try it, learn it coz eventually you'll need it."

    Personally, I never love selling. Never did I sell even a candy before.
    Im a technical guy. A licensed engineer. But events to survive pushes me to learn new things which i never dreamed doing. Selling/Marketing is the blood of any business. Without it, no business will survive.

  10. #30
    @ cirext:
    I think like what I'm going to start soon.
    Pay-now-work-right-after?


    I have to agree with these people; you could always find a way to start up something.
    I don't have something big to show yet but I hope I could pull off something soon for some credibility.

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