A question for Christians (mga unbelievers ayaw sa mo'g ti-ti ha. kauban rata. lol)

[regnauld]

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r u xur bro nga c God ang ngsugo anah??kai naa rabai uban mubasa din ila tuo c God ng sugo..pagread sa lain na verse ky dli d.i..or bsn naa nai sumpay na naai reason nganung ing.ana na

According to premise of the argument, the Bible contains a perfect morality and no ethical defects. But that claim seems incompatible with the fact that God is described in the Bible as killing people for no good reason. We have already mentioned the many children killed in the Great Flood, in Sodom and Gomorrah, and in the ten plagues on Egypt (especially the last). Here are some additional examples of people whom God killed:

1. A man who refused to impregnate his brother's widow (Ge 38:7-10).

2. Two men who offered God incense that he had not authorized (Le 10:1-2).

3. A group of about 300 people who opposed Moses politically (Nu 16:1-35).

4. Another group of 14,700 who sympathized with the first group (Nu 16:49).

5. More people who complained about the food and other matters (Nu 21:4-6).

6. 24,000 more because of some who worshiped Baal (Nu 25:3,9).

7. The Amorites who besieged Gibeon (Jos 10:10-11).

8. Seventy men who looked into a box (1Sa 6:19).

9. Another man who, with good intention, touched the box (2Sa 6:6-7).

10. A man who refused to use his weapon against another man (1Ki 20:35-36).

11. Forty-two children who called Elisha "baldy" (2Ki 2:23-24).

12. 185,000 Assyrian soldiers (2Ki 19:35).

God also killed all of Pharaoh's horsemen in the Red Sea (Ex 14:26-2. He could instead have simply made their horses lame, which would have been far more effective than removing the wheels from the chariots so that the horses had to drag the chariots slowly along the ground (Ex 14:25). That would have also spared the horsemen.


Now....IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL A LOVING AND INFINITE MERCIFUL GOD? c'mon kids you know better than that!

[pinky09]

"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

bro..basaha ang JER 13:1-27 aron jud makasabot ka nganung ing.ana na

[regnauld]

"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

bro..basaha ang JER 13:1-27 aron jud makasabot ka nganung ing.ana na

And why did GOD kill children too? kasabot ka nga ingon ana mopatay si GOD ug innocent children? pasabta kuno ko beh?

[pinky09]

According to premise of the argument, the Bible contains a perfect morality and no ethical defects. But that claim seems incompatible with the fact that God is described in the Bible as killing people for no good reason. We have already mentioned the many children killed in the Great Flood, in Sodom and Gomorrah, and in the ten plagues on Egypt (especially the last). Here are some additional examples of people whom God killed:

1. A man who refused to impregnate his brother's widow (Ge 38:7-10).

2. Two men who offered God incense that he had not authorized (Le 10:1-2).

3. A group of about 300 people who opposed Moses politically (Nu 16:1-35).

4. Another group of 14,700 who sympathized with the first group (Nu 16:49).

5. More people who complained about the food and other matters (Nu 21:4-6).

6. 24,000 more because of some who worshiped Baal (Nu 25:3,9).

7. The Amorites who besieged Gibeon (Jos 10:10-11).

8. Seventy men who looked into a box (1Sa 6:19).

9. Another man who, with good intention, touched the box (2Sa 6:6-7).

10. A man who refused to use his weapon against another man (1Ki 20:35-36).

11. Forty-two children who called Elisha "baldy" (2Ki 2:23-24).

12. 185,000 Assyrian soldiers (2Ki 19:35).

God also killed all of Pharaoh's horsemen in the Red Sea (Ex 14:26-2. He could instead have simply made their horses lame, which would have been far more effective than removing the wheels from the chariots so that the horses had to drag the chariots slowly along the ground (Ex 14:25). That would have also spared the horsemen.


Now....IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL A LOVING AND INFINITE MERCIFUL GOD? c'mon kids you know better than that!

bro og mu stay rkag usa ka verse mkaingon jud kag c God kai lahi ra...u shud read the whole verse para mkasabot ka..nya knahanglan pud kag muguide nemu aron d ka maglibog..try bible study with Jehovahs Witnesses..or lain lng..aron mkasabot jud ka nganung ing.ana na xa..

[regnauld]

bro og mu stay rkag usa ka verse mkaingon jud kag c God kai lahi ra...u shud read the whole verse para mkasabot ka..nya knahanglan pud kag muguide nemu aron d ka maglibog..try bible study with Jehovahs Witnesses..or lain lng..aron mkasabot jud ka nganung ing.ana na xa..

hahaha you mean to say nakasabot ka ana sa imong gibasa? hahahaha

Well you havent solved the bible contradictions and you will never will.

Answer my question: Why is your merciful and infinite loving GOD is a cruel GOD in the old testament? Answer kuno palihug lang

[pinky09]

hahaha you mean to say nakasabot ka ana sa imong gibasa? hahahaha

Well you havent solved the bible contradictions and you will never will.

Answer my question: Why is your merciful and infinite loving GOD is a cruel GOD in the old testament? Answer kuno palihug lang

kasabot man.klaro man...r u xur wala pa ma solve ang mga bible contradictions??hahahahah...ur wrong..wahahahah...try pkig istorya na JW aron matubag na imung mga pangutana..

sa imung question...naa nai reason nganung iyang g.pamatay ang mga taw...try pkig istorya na JW aron matubag na imung mga pangutana..

[regnauld]

kasabot man.klaro man...r u xur wala pa ma solve ang mga bible contradictions??hahahahah...ur wrong..wahahahah...try pkig istorya na JW aron matubag na imung mga pangutana..

Wala pa gihapon ka katubag sa pangutana nako!

Anyway....HERE'S THE ADDITIONAL FACTS IN THE BIBLE!

In addition to killing people directly, God also ordered several people killed (despite his commandment not to kill). Here are some examples of people who died by God's order (and in some cases with God's help):

1. Three thousand of the Levites' brothers, friends, and neighbors, who had become unruly (Exodus 32:27-2.

2. All the men, women, and children in all seven of the tribes who were the Israelites' neighbors (Dt 2:34, 3:6, 7:1-2,16, 20:16-17). [Some Biblical verses imply that the Israelites numbered 2-3 million, which would make the total population of their neighbors more than 14 million. What God was here ordering, then, if we could go by those verses, was a kind of Holocaust.]

3. All the men, women, and children of the cities of Jericho, Ai, and dozens more cities and towns (Jos 6:21, 8:24-26, 10:26-42, 11:10-23, 21:44).

4. All the Amalekites, including children, and even animals (1Sa 15:3,1, [where Saul was severely punished for sparing some of them].

5. All the members of the house of Ahab and ministers of Baal within Israel, the latter accomplished through deception (2Ki 10:11-25), though approved by God (10:30).

6. All the citizens of Jerusalem, including children, who did not grieve and lament over sins committed in it (Eze 9:4-6).

It seems quite unethical for God to order the execution of so many people, whatever their offense might have been, especially in the case of the children, who were presumably innocent.

Closely related to the above is the extravagant use of capital punishment among God's chosen people. God ordered people put to death for such minor offenses as the following:

1. Consulting a witch (Le 20:6; Dt 18:11).

2. Blasphemy or merely having a different religion (Ex 22:20; Le 24:10-23; Dt 13:1-15, 17:2-5, 18:20; Jos 23:7,16; 1Ki 18:40).

3. Gathering sticks or kindling a fire on the Sabbath (Ex 31:14-15, 35:2-3; Nu 15:32-36).

4. Eating the wrong food (Ex 12:15,19; Le 3:16-17, 7:22,25-27, 17:10-16).

5. Being a disrespectful or disobedient child (Le 20:9; Dt 21:18-21).

It seems unethical to have laws that harsh. The laws of the ancient Israelites are hardly the model of morality that advocates of Dominion Theology (or Reconstructionism) make them out to be. It would have been impressive if the Bible had gone against the prevailing cultural norms and had forbidden slavery and the oppression of women. But it did not do that. The Bible condones slavery. It also contains many rules that are discriminatory against women. It is hard to find anything in the Bible that stands out as ethically noble from our point of view today.

Is that what you call A MERCIFUL AND INFINITE LOVING GOD?

[regnauld]

kasabot man.klaro man...r u xur wala pa ma solve ang mga bible contradictions??hahahahah...ur wrong..wahahahah...try pkig istorya na JW aron matubag na imung mga pangutana..

sa imung question...naa nai reason nganung iyang g.pamatay ang mga taw...try pkig istorya na JW aron matubag na imung mga pangutana..

Owsssss GOD is INFINITE LOVE and you say GOD kills for a reason? hahahahaha

Then why did GOD says THOU SHALL NOT KILL unya siya ra diay mag una2 ug kill? what an IRONIC GOD!

[pinky09]

Wala pa gihapon ka katubag sa pangutana nako!

Anyway....HERE'S THE ADDITIONAL FACTS IN THE BIBLE!

In addition to killing people directly, God also ordered several people killed (despite his commandment not to kill). Here are some examples of people who died by God's order (and in some cases with God's help):

1. Three thousand of the Levites' brothers, friends, and neighbors, who had become unruly (Exodus 32:27-2.

2. All the men, women, and children in all seven of the tribes who were the Israelites' neighbors (Dt 2:34, 3:6, 7:1-2,16, 20:16-17). [Some Biblical verses imply that the Israelites numbered 2-3 million, which would make the total population of their neighbors more than 14 million. What God was here ordering, then, if we could go by those verses, was a kind of Holocaust.]

3. All the men, women, and children of the cities of Jericho, Ai, and dozens more cities and towns (Jos 6:21, 8:24-26, 10:26-42, 11:10-23, 21:44).

4. All the Amalekites, including children, and even animals (1Sa 15:3,1, [where Saul was severely punished for sparing some of them].

5. All the members of the house of Ahab and ministers of Baal within Israel, the latter accomplished through deception (2Ki 10:11-25), though approved by God (10:30).

6. All the citizens of Jerusalem, including children, who did not grieve and lament over sins committed in it (Eze 9:4-6).

It seems quite unethical for God to order the execution of so many people, whatever their offense might have been, especially in the case of the children, who were presumably innocent.

Closely related to the above is the extravagant use of capital punishment among God's chosen people. God ordered people put to death for such minor offenses as the following:

1. Consulting a witch (Le 20:6; Dt 18:11).

2. Blasphemy or merely having a different religion (Ex 22:20; Le 24:10-23; Dt 13:1-15, 17:2-5, 18:20; Jos 23:7,16; 1Ki 18:40).

3. Gathering sticks or kindling a fire on the Sabbath (Ex 31:14-15, 35:2-3; Nu 15:32-36).

4. Eating the wrong food (Ex 12:15,19; Le 3:16-17, 7:22,25-27, 17:10-16).

5. Being a disrespectful or disobedient child (Le 20:9; Dt 21:18-21).

It seems unethical to have laws that harsh. The laws of the ancient Israelites are hardly the model of morality that advocates of Dominion Theology (or Reconstructionism) make them out to be. It would have been impressive if the Bible had gone against the prevailing cultural norms and had forbidden slavery and the oppression of women. But it did not do that. The Bible condones slavery. It also contains many rules that are discriminatory against women. It is hard to find anything in the Bible that stands out as ethically noble from our point of view today.

Is that what you call A MERCIFUL AND INFINITE LOVING GOD?

i cant answer your question bro kai kuwang pkug knowledge sa bible...try lng bro talk with a JW..saman??u want??

[regnauld]

i cant answer your question bro kai kuwang pkug knowledge sa bible...try lng bro talk with a JW..saman??u want??

its still the same story. Your pastors cannot solve these great contradictions in the bible and they will never will.

MORAL LESSON: THE BIBLE IS JUST LIKE A GREAT PIECE OF LITERATURE ESP. FOR KIDS LIKE HARRY POTTER AND LORD OF THE RINGS!