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    napay lain: Prayer for the dead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Unsay lapok? Diba tinood man gyud nga wala gyud nagtudlo ang mga apostles about prayer for the dead and purgatory? Ang nakapait lng sad sa uban catholic members… mga fanatics kaayo.. naa man unta mga otok pero dili gyud gamiton pag investigate kon unsa ka tinood ang “evidence” kunohay sa prayer for the dead and purgatory. Unya mogamit pa ug verse sa 2 timothy 1:18 nga pagkataphawa gyud intawn.

    nag ingon ba gud si st paul diha sa timothy nga

    “ginoo… kaloy-I ang kalag ni onesiporus” “ug kaloy-a ang mga kalag sa purgatoryo”?

    Did paul said that? Of course not. Sa ato pa nagpataka lng mo ug gamit ug evidence para lng ma justify inyong wrong doctrine. Nya kinsa may lapok ani ron? Diba kamo?

    Questions:

    1. Who is the writer of the book of maccabees? Is he a prophet of God? Is he inspired by God? How credible is his writing?

    2. During the time of Christ, many times gyud siya nag mention sa mga old testament writers, prophets and etc… BUT… did Jesus Christ mention about Judas Maccabeus?

    3. Do st. paul who is the author of the book of timothy really teaches about the doctrine of purgatory and prayer for the dead? Can you give some verses?


    Hala botslob tubaga na.

  3. #23
    mag ampo gyud ta sa patay.... pra ma lessen ilang mga sins.... mao na ako opinion hap....
    kay mag pa damgo mangud ang mga patay na mag pa ampo... 1 time ako ate natulog sa amo balay xa ra usa... dugay na hinu-on to... g duol xa og mga kalag na nag wear og spanish outfit... mga 5 kabuok daw cla... ingon ako mama nah... mga ancestors daw to namo na wala mahimutang sa kalibutan....

    ako rani opinion hap... na ampo-an ang mga patay...

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE_CSA View Post
    wala jud bitaw literally gisuwat sa bible nga "DONT PRAY FOR THE DEAD" but still it is a sin. there are a lot of sins in the bible nga wala jud literally gisuwat nga "dont..."

    kani man gud ang prayer for the dead connection man gud ni sa purgatory nga wala sad ni exist. basta ang tinood wala jud maski isa ka apostle ni Jesus Christ nga nagtudlo sa mga first century christians to pray for the dead.

    maski pa si st. paul, st. luke, st. matthew ug maski kinsa pa wala jud nagtudlo ana.
    ok then give me the verse..

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE_CSA View Post
    Unsay lapok? Diba tinood man gyud nga wala gyud nagtudlo ang mga apostles about prayer for the dead and purgatory? Ang nakapait lng sad sa uban catholic members… mga fanatics kaayo.. naa man unta mga otok pero dili gyud gamiton pag investigate kon unsa ka tinood ang “evidence” kunohay sa prayer for the dead and purgatory. Unya mogamit pa ug verse sa 2 timothy 1:18 nga pagkataphawa gyud intawn.

    nag ingon ba gud si st paul diha sa timothy nga

    “ginoo… kaloy-I ang kalag ni onesiporus” “ug kaloy-a ang mga kalag sa purgatoryo”?

    Did paul said that? Of course not. Sa ato pa nagpataka lng mo ug gamit ug evidence para lng ma justify inyong wrong doctrine. Nya kinsa may lapok ani ron? Diba kamo?

    Questions:

    1. Who is the writer of the book of maccabees? Is he a prophet of God? Is he inspired by God? How credible is his writing?

    2. During the time of Christ, many times gyud siya nag mention sa mga old testament writers, prophets and etc… BUT… did Jesus Christ mention about Judas Maccabeus?

    3. Do st. paul who is the author of the book of timothy really teaches about the doctrine of purgatory and prayer for the dead? Can you give some verses?


    Hala botslob tubaga na.
    Kay kung asa tong mga sukwahi sa inyong mga pag to-o mao may inyong wagtangon sa Bible.

  6. #26
    ..ako i do not pray for the dead...para nako ang akong chance ma langit or maluwas or unsa ba nga sakto nga termino...nag agad unsa akong binuhatan while buhi pa ko....same with sa akong loved ones...i pray for them A LOT while buhi pa sila...when they die i just remember them with a warm feeling in my heart ....ako lang sad na ha....

  7. #27
    in ana man pud jud ang akoang pag handum sa akong mga mahal sa kinabuhi nga ming panaw nah... But to give them also a food a "PRAYERS" for them. Mas diha ma kita ang imo gugma bisan mi panaw na sila.

  8. #28
    don't pray for the dead ... if you believe god can't help them anymore

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by baliguat View Post
    Kay kung asa tong mga sukwahi sa inyong mga pag to-o mao may inyong wagtangon sa Bible.
    hahahaha... sa ato pa sukwahi sad ang pagtoo sa 12 apostles kay maski kausa nga higayon wala jud sila mag sangyaw about purgatory and prayer for the dead? mas labaw pa hinoon diay mo sa original nga apostles?

    sa book of acts lng daan dodong ug imong basahon usa na ka history during the time of christ and apostles pero wala jud sila nagtudlo anang prayer for the dead and purgatory.

    and also during that time daghan kaau nangamatay ana imagine from the book of matthew to revelation that is about 100 years pero wala jud maski usa nila nag ampo sa kalag para maluwas sa purgatoryo.

    ingna hinoon.. nga namunit mo ug mga writings to support your doctrine aron lng maka kwarta. nailhan ba gud na sa ginoo ang writer sa book of maccabees? do you think si Judas maccabeus usa ka prophet? inspired by god? hahaha absolutely not.

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    maayo pa si bro Spike kaila unsay prophet ug unsay inspired by God, kitang katoliko dli pa mugamit sa utok, wla pa kaila, pataka pa jud ug pamunit.. hayyyz...

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