Bishops want the truth? (They can't handle the truth!)

[P-Chan]

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to hell with both... it still feels like the chuch is somewhat want to think that they control the goverment.. and the goverment.. well... courpted lazy cheap a$$

[mannyamador]

they cannot even face the truth about over population!

The truth is that it's a myth. So far neither you nor anyone else in this forum have been able to show real evidence and logical arguments that overpopulation (defined as population density CAUSING poverty) really exists. There's an entire thread full of data that shows that "overpopulation" is a big lie. Read it.

[gareb]

OT: oppsies my foot. that's still not over, eh mannyamador?

[mannyamador]

OT: oppsies my foot. that's still not over, eh mannyamador?

Should it be? Truth is better than disinformation, isn't it?

[Deus]

I wonder why you have no qualms regarding this suggestion : 'Perhaps they can tell her, privately if it helps, that the country is hurting and she has a lot to do with it — and she can do a lot to stop it.'Â* Separation of Church and State?

Perhaps you failed to see the were in my statement? The fact of the matter is, in the past, they did meddle in politics and did meddle in government, and them doing nothing now is making them look inconsistent. It's like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Irrelevant if you never threw the first shoe in the first place.

[nindotkanon]

they cannot even face the truth about over population!

The truth is that it's a myth. So far neither you nor anyone else in this forum have been able to show real evidence and logical arguments that overpopulation (defined as population density CAUSING poverty) really exists. There's an entire thread full of data that shows that "overpopulation" is a big lie. Read it. Yes it really does. If you have a family of 3, husband and wife plus kid. When you come home from work with a piece of cake on hand. Cake is only divided into 3. If you have 2 kids, cake is divided into 4. and so on and so forth. If you have man y kids, make sure that you can afford to send them to school , all of them. If you have many kids, make sure that you can afford to feed them all. Not just rice but a good health food. In most populated countries, there are shortage of jobs because not so many people are retiring from their job but a lot of graduates (young people) every single year. Think about countries with less population, they are the countries that can have plenty of jobs available plus they almost have zero in poverty!

[dacs]

Yes it really does. If you have a family of 3, husband and wife plus kid. When you come home from work with a piece of cake on hand. Cake is only divided into 3. If you have 2 kids, cake is divided into 4. and so on and so forth. If you have man y kids, make sure that you can afford to send them to school , all of them. If you have many kids, make sure that you can afford to feed them all. Not just rice but a good health food. In most populated countries, there are shortage of jobs because not so many people are retiring from their job but a lot of graduates (young people) every single year. Think about countries with less population, they are the countries that can have plenty of jobs available plus they almost have zero in poverty!

A simple logic for a simple man --- without the intricacies of global economics. You live in your own world - and how small that is!

[LytSlpr]

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IN A NUTSHELL: UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS NO LONGER ABOUT WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG BUT WHAT EACH SIDES CAN PROVE OR PROVE OTHERWISE AND THE GRAVITY OF THE CORRESPONDING CONSEQUENCE TO OUR NATION AND IF THERE IS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE. FOR THE MEANTIME, WHETHER ALL OR SOME OF US LIKES IT OR NOT, WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION.

This alone is a flawed premise. Nothing more to say. I mean to find what is right and wrong, what could be more important than that?

If people will think this way, then it means trouble for us all. Kung ing ani nga pati Obispo kontrahun na para lang matabunan ang mga binuang, grabe na gyud kaayo.

I think this statement is trying to pertain to being objective than subjective. Its really difficult to define truth especially it is very relative. What maybe the truth for you is not the truth for me.

Atleast, having the law as a common reference tends to be fair to all people. Now, having the law as the common reference then proving or disproving in accordance of law takes action. This is purely my opinion.

EXACTLY! That is the reason why we have courts, debates, etc. coz even justice is blind. The law is not the ultimate truth.

[LytSlpr]

Truth is not relative. Its absolute. Truth is truth as black is black or white is white. There are no gray areas only balack and white. If both insists that that theirs is truth then one of them is definitely telling a lie.

In REAL PERFECT WORLD, I sincerely and genuinely hope this is the case but unfortunately IT IS NOT.

[Deus]

Yes it really does. If you have a family of 3, husband and wife plus kid. When you come home from work with a piece of cake on hand. Cake is only divided into 3. If you have 2 kids, cake is divided into 4. and so on and so forth. If you have man y kids, make sure that you can afford to send them to school , all of them. If you have many kids, make sure that you can afford to feed them all. Not just rice but a good health food. In most populated countries, there are shortage of jobs because not so many people are retiring from their job but a lot of graduates (young people) every single year. Think about countries with less population, they are the countries that can have plenty of jobs available plus they almost have zero in poverty!

A simple logic for a simple man --- without the intricacies of global economics.Â* You live in your own world - and how small that is!

Apples and oranges. A low population doesn't necessarily mean no poverty, and a high population doesn’t necessarily cause poverty. What a high population does do is intensify already existing conditions of poverty by diverting much needed resources to support a high populace. Now this still isn’t bad. Diverting resources to a population can be seen as an investment that it encourages future populations to be healthier and have better skills – up to a point. The country may become saturated. Too many skilled workers and too little jobs would mean nobody would hire you, no matter how qualified you are. By that time no matter what big a chunk of budget the government gives to its people it wouldn’t help. The investment has become a huge liability and all the money in the world won’t do jack.

At least that’s what it would be in a closed system, which the Philippines is not. We’re seeing it now with Filipinos leaving overseas and finding jobs elsewhere (and look, remittances are now the majority of our GNP!).

That’s great, isn’t it? I know it’s noble and self sacrificing, but there’s a term for a country that sells it's bodies. It rhymes with “door”.