Is the Acting Mayor Rama just a puppet of on leave Mayor Osmena?

[godwhacker]

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maayo mana gibuhat sa mga konsehal og v-mayor nga di mag supak2x arun nay paingnan atung ciudad. tan awas mandaue o sige lag gubot ilang mga lider didto way proyekto mapasar kay og di bolabogon sa mga konsehal, e veto man sads mayor og di siya kauyon. si tomas may mayor di siyay matuman. og ka rama na nga panahon aw kadto pud mga ubos niya musanong sad sa iyang disisyon.

Bro, this is part of the democratic process. Everyone has the right to disagree and this is the beauty of democracy. So my theory is right. Kanang nahitabo ron sa Mandaue is a clear indication that their local council is no rubber stamp of the mayor. Like what I say duna man dyud nang checks and balances. Well if they cannot reach a compromise and will always result to a deadlock, kinsa man mabasul ini? Ang mga tawo ra sad nganong namutar ug mga local officials nga ingon ana.

I full agree with you that kinahanglan nga naa dyud cooperation and like a team kinahanglan nga cohesive so that the end result will be a smooth sailing local government which will benefit the constituents. Kana ron giingon nimo nga Si Tummy boy may mayor di siyay matuman, will only bolster the idea that his way of administration is dictatorial. And his vice is just what? A plain puppet.

Bi kamong nag-ingon nga dili puppet si Michael, i prove kuno dire nga dili siya puppet. The burden of proof now is in your hands. I have nothing personal against Tummy boy after all he is a good mayor. And he has contributed much to the city of Cebu. In fact, I am also one of his constituents and I pray that he will beat this dreaded enemy -cancer.

For the sake of argument and atong issue dire is about Michael and how he can function without the impression that he is a puppet of the mayor.

[godwhacker]

Mao lage ... gi unsa nimo pag come up ang GENERAL SENSE since wala man CONCRETE EVIDENCE ana na ang gi nsulti niom in behalf of the GENERAL PUBLIC ? If para nimo ang PAGSUKWAHI ni MIKE RAMA ang proof na maka ingon ta di siya PUPPET , dako kaau na siya PAGPANGLAGPAS kay ngano man ? Ngano guboton man nimo ang dili gubot ?

So then prove it to me otherwise that Michael is not a puppet. Di ba gibantug na naman na bisan pa kaniadtu sa atong print and broadcast media that the city council is just but a rubber stamp of the mayor. A few people of YES SIR! Di na mistil bai nga mangita pa ka ug concrete nga evidence because this is the public perception ever since but like what I said, the people doesn't care kay ok ra man ang resulta. And besides why use word gubot? There's a saying that goes, you can disagree without being disagreeable. Do I ever believe that tanan policy ni Tomas sakto? No Sir. Naa dyud uban ana dili sakto but as always the council will just nod their head in the affirmative.

[godwhacker]

Here are some excerpts from print media inquirer :

Mayor Tommy Osmeña did put across the message that he’s bossing in Cebu City when he got the Cebu City Council to approve the Banilad flyover despite stiff opposition from influential people in the business community. But in trying to make the city council bow to his plan, was it necessary for the mayor to publicly rebuke and threaten the councilors even if there was no hint they would go against his will?

Some quarters are saying it was not necessary because the city council is a rubber stamp, i.e. its members have really no minds of their own, except to do the mayor’s wishes. Aray, that really hurts. I can almost see the councilors, especially Vice Mayor Mike Rama, wince at being likened to a rubber stamp, the way the Batasan Pambansa functioned under Marcos during Martial Law.

So back to the question: Was it necessary for Mayor Tommy to browbeat the council, expose its collective weakness and hurt his own image in the process? Unsa man gyuy tinuod nga rason?

I can’t think of any, unless it’s just a flash of whimsy on the part of hizzoner. However, since he has anointed Vice Mayor Mike Rama as heir apparent in previous pronouncements, the issue has damaged Mike in a psychological sense. It’s as if Tommy is telling the people it’s up to them if they wish to elect Mike as mayor even if he failed to seize the moment of speaking up his own mind on a critical issue like the Banilad flyover. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

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From sunstar :

DECIDING on the Banilad flyover issue has apparently become a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation for the Cebu City Council.

This after Mayor Tomas Osmeña pushed the councilors to a corner with threats to stop their projects if they endorse the cancellation of the flyover project.

If they now see wisdom in the opposition of Banilad and Talamban businessmen and residents to the project, they’d earn the ire of a mayor known for his dictatorial bent.

And if they consider the mayor’s lobby for the project reasonable, they’d earn laughs for “proving” to the public that they are wimps and the Council a rubber stamp.

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This is just but one of the examples that trickles down to the public and influence their impressions. Di lang magtingug ang public kay ok man lagi ang resulta but the impression is there. Di lang naku ma post dire ang mga commentaries sa atong broadcast media but it is basically the same.

[tokidoki_v2.1]

^^ sakto gyud ka godwhacker. Maskin unsa na ka "feeling" isog ang politician; maskin unsa pana siya magsupak sa mayor. IF the mayor's got dirt on you kutob ra ka sa panghasi but he has the last say.

Murag dako na iro ba. Kusog mopaghot kusog mangisog. pero naka kadena ra diay gihapon unya kung dili mohilom bunalan ra na nimo para magpuyo.

In short, one's toughness is only a fake projection of reality.

[godwhacker]

^^ sakto gyud ka godwhacker. Maskin unsa na ka "feeling" isog ang politician; maskin unsa pana siya magsupak sa mayor. IF the mayor's got dirt on you kutob ra ka sa panghasi but he has the last say.

Murag dako na iro ba. Kusog mopaghot kusog mangisog. pero naka kadena ra diay gihapon unya kung dili mohilom bunalan ra na nimo para magpuyo.

In short, one's toughness is only a fake projection of reality.

Bro, I like that. Like your big dog, the tiger keeps on a loud growl but that's the best he can do. Kay wa may ngipon ikapaak. hehe.

[tokidoki_v2.1]

ingat gihapon ta bai. kai naa sad raba saying "his bark is worse than his bite" hehehe....

[Raikage]

Yes he is. Bisag layu si Tummy boy but he is still calling the shots. Rama is afraid to become like Alvin Garcia who did not toe to the line of the mayor's commands. Just my opinion.

I also agree on what u are saying....he's a puppet.........it's very clear....

[Raikage]

@ THREAD STARTER ....

Before you go on ... I would like EMPHASIZED this statement :

We've heard stories that Mayor Osmena is still running the country thru text messages
commanding his people what to do.

I would like to hear that story too .... asa ko maka dungog ana bai ?

Hello, sorry for the late reply, it's in the newspaper........Have u read SunStar? The Freeman?

It's in the news TV patrol.....Osmena is also hesitant cz he even gave the councilors executive powers which is a taboo....councilors....should not be executing laws! it seems that Osmena don't trust Rama.

[Raikage]

Here are some excerpts from print media inquirer :

Mayor Tommy Osmeña did put across the message that he’s bossing in Cebu City when he got the Cebu City Council to approve the Banilad flyover despite stiff opposition from influential people in the business community. But in trying to make the city council bow to his plan, was it necessary for the mayor to publicly rebuke and threaten the councilors even if there was no hint they would go against his will?

Some quarters are saying it was not necessary because the city council is a rubber stamp, i.e. its members have really no minds of their own, except to do the mayor’s wishes. Aray, that really hurts. I can almost see the councilors, especially Vice Mayor Mike Rama, wince at being likened to a rubber stamp, the way the Batasan Pambansa functioned under Marcos during Martial Law.

So back to the question: Was it necessary for Mayor Tommy to browbeat the council, expose its collective weakness and hurt his own image in the process? Unsa man gyuy tinuod nga rason?

I can’t think of any, unless it’s just a flash of whimsy on the part of hizzoner. However, since he has anointed Vice Mayor Mike Rama as heir apparent in previous pronouncements, the issue has damaged Mike in a psychological sense. It’s as if Tommy is telling the people it’s up to them if they wish to elect Mike as mayor even if he failed to seize the moment of speaking up his own mind on a critical issue like the Banilad flyover. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

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From sunstar :

DECIDING on the Banilad flyover issue has apparently become a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation for the Cebu City Council.

This after Mayor Tomas Osmeña pushed the councilors to a corner with threats to stop their projects if they endorse the cancellation of the flyover project.

If they now see wisdom in the opposition of Banilad and Talamban businessmen and residents to the project, they’d earn the ire of a mayor known for his dictatorial bent.

And if they consider the mayor’s lobby for the project reasonable, they’d earn laughs for “proving” to the public that they are wimps and the Council a rubber stamp.

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This is just but one of the examples that trickles down to the public and influence their impressions. Di lang magtingug ang public kay ok man lagi ang resulta but the impression is there. Di lang naku ma post dire ang mga commentaries sa atong broadcast media but it is basically the same.

This is a clear indication of abuse of power....unya si georgia nu run nasad daw?....

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

So then prove it to me otherwise that Michael is not a puppet. Di ba gibantug na naman na bisan pa kaniadtu sa atong print and broadcast media that the city council is just but a rubber stamp of the mayor. A few people of YES SIR! Di na mistil bai nga mangita pa ka ug concrete nga evidence because this is the public perception ever since but like what I said, the people doesn't care kay ok ra man ang resulta. And besides why use word gubot? There's a saying that goes, you can disagree without being disagreeable. Do I ever believe that tanan policy ni Tomas sakto? No Sir. Naa dyud uban ana dili sakto but as always the council will just nod their head in the affirmative.

Wrong approach . Ngano ako man ang mo provide ug food in the table na kamo man ang ni " CLAIM " ? Naa ninyo ang bug-at na timbang so kamo ang mo balansi lols , na unsa na gud ni . Heard of BOPK ? ell obviously you do , they can agree one thing because they are all in the same page . Dili lage na justifiable bai . Naa man gyud diri si HONORABLE JACK " DA WACK " JAKOSALEM , why dont we wait for his side since information from him are FIRST HAND , RELIABLE INFORMATION and not from the media .

@ RAIKAGE ...

Hello, sorry for the late reply, it's in the newspaper........Have u read SunStar? The Freeman?

It's in the news TV patrol.....Osmena is also hesitant cz he even gave the councilors executive powers which is a taboo....councilors....should not be executing laws! it seems that Osmena don't trust Rama.