"Truth" about Islam from an ex-Muslim

[radiostar]

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aye...



islam, or christianity whats the diiffernce?....just the spelling...


some may see that the other side myt seem weird or unacceptable...



videos lyk these make the GAP between humanity...


we all are human beings...hindu muslim or christian...



hopefuly people will look at BROADER PROSPECTIVE...



We dont have to force religion NORMS on other religion for me the best solution is UNDERSTANDING AND TOLERANCE..


peace

kaayo sak2 ka bro

[JX]

In her statement, "We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a german restaurant" and "Muslims turned three Buddha statues to rubble".. etc..
i think the video's message was for the muslims to stop fighting the infidels.
"it is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the middle ages"
respect other peoples belief..

[ryan22]

ang ako lang naobserbahan sa mga muslims is if naa gani sila conflict with christians ila dayon himoon nga religion issue, descriminate sila because their muslims, nya declare dayon ug jihad..

mao na wala jud progress ang mga muslim provinces tungod sa ila pagka isog nga wala malugar, unya ila gusto mao jud matuman, ie during every elections unsa man ang lugar mga permi naa failure of elections? though naa sad gubot sa uban province pero permi jud na sa mga muslim provinces naa failure of elections just like what happened last May..

believe it or not some Muslim provinces kusog kaau ang kidnap ug rape nya ig kahuman ang ila gi rape kay ila dayon panga saw-on basta naa lang ika bayad nga dowry...

[ronna]

Thousands of Women Killed for Family "Honor"
Hillary Mayell
for National Geographic News

February 12, 2002

Hundreds, if not thousands, of women are murdered by their families each year in the name of family "honor." It's difficult to get precise numbers on the phenomenon of honor killing; the murders frequently go unreported, the perpetrators unpunished, and the concept of family honor justifies the act in the eyes of some societies.

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Most honor killings occur in countries where the concept of women as a vessel of the family reputation predominates, said Marsha Freemen, director of International Women's Rights Action Watch at the Hubert Humphrey Institute of Public Affairs at the University of Minnesota.

Reports submitted to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights show that honor killings have occurred in Bangladesh, Great Britain, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Pakistan, Morocco, Sweden, Turkey, and Uganda. In countries not submitting reports to the UN, the practice was condoned under the rule of the fundamentalist Taliban government in Afghanistan, and has been reported in Iraq and Iran.


But while honor killings have elicited considerable attention and outrage, human rights activists argue that they should be regarded as part of a much larger problem of violence against women.

In India, for example, more than 5,000 brides die annually because their dowries are considered insufficient, according to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF). Crimes of passion, which are treated extremely leniently in Latin America, are the same thing with a different name, some rights advocates say.

"In countries where Islam is practiced, they're called honor killings, but dowry deaths and so-called crimes of passion have a similar dynamic in that the women are killed by male family members and the crimes are perceived as excusable or understandable," said Widney Brown, advocacy director for Human Rights Watch.

The practice, she said, "goes across cultures and across religions."

Complicity by other women in the family and the community strengthens the concept of women as property and the perception that violence against family members is a family and not a judicial issue.

"Females in the family—mothers, mothers-in-law, sisters, and cousins—frequently support the attacks. It's a community mentality," said Zaynab Nawaz, a program assistant for women's human rights at Amnesty International.

Women as Property

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/02/0212_020212_honorkilling.html



THE DEATH OF A MUSLIM WOMAN
"The Whore Lived Like a German"
By Jody K. Biehl in Berlin

In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been brutally murdered by family members. Their crime? Trying to break free and live Western lifestyles. Within their communities, the killers are revered as heroes for preserving their family dignity. How can such a horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of Europe? The deaths have sparked momentary outrage, but will they change the grim reality for Muslim women?

Polizei Berlin
Hatin Surucu just wanted to live her own life. Instead, she became Berlin's latest victim of honor killings. Her Turkish Muslim brothers allegedly gunned her down for adopting Western ways.
The shots came from nowhere and within minutes the young Turkish mother standing at the Berlin bus stop was dead. A telephone call from a relative had brought her to this cold, unforgiving place. She thought she would only be gone for a few minutes and wore a light jacket in the freezing February wind. She had left her five-year-old son asleep in his bed. He awoke looking for his mother, who, like many Turkish women in Germany, harbored a secret life of fear, courage and, ultimately, grief. Now her little boy has his own tragedy to bear: His mother, Hatin Surucu, was not the victim of random violence, but likely died at the hands of her own family in what is known as an "honor killing."

Hatin's crime, it appears, was the desire to lead a normal life in her family's adopted land. The vivacious 23-year-old beauty, who was raised in Berlin, divorced the Turkish cousin she was forced to marry at age 16. She also discarded her Islamic head scarf, enrolled in a technical school where she was training to become an electrician and began dating German men. For her family, such behavior represented the ultimate shame -- the embrace of "corrupt" Western ways. Days after the crime, police arrested her three brothers, ages 25, 24 and 18. The youngest of the three allegedly bragged to his girlfriend about the Feb. 7 killing. At her funeral, Hakin's Turkish-Kurdish parents draped their only daughter's casket in verses from the Koran and buried her according to Muslim tradition. Absent of course, were the brothers, who were in jail.

The crime might be easier to digest if it had been an archaic anomaly, but five other Muslim women have been murdered in Berlin during the past four months by their husbands or partners for besmirching the family's Muslim honor. Two of them were stabbed to death in front of their young children, one was shot, one strangled and a fifth drowned. It seems hard to fathom, but in the middle of democratic Western Europe -- in Germany, a nation where pacifism is almost a universal mantra -- murderous macho patriotism not only exists but also appears to be thriving. It may even be Germany's liberalism -- and its post World War II fear of criticizing minority cultures -- that has encouraged ultra-religious families to settle here.

The problem is that much of this insular and ultra-religious world is out of public view, often hidden in inner-city apartments where the most influential links to the outside world are satellite dishes that receive Turkish and Arabic television and the local mosque. Tens of thousands of Turkish women live behind these walls of silence, in homes run by husbands many met on their wedding day and ruled by the ever-present verses of the Koran. In these families, loyalty and honor are elevated virtues and women are treated little better than slaves, unseen by society and often unnoticed or ignored by their German neighbors. To get what they want, these women have to run. They have to change their names, their passports, even their hair color and break with the families they often love, but simply can no longer obey.


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Turkish women who have fled their husbands and violent marriages and live in a shelter take a stroll in Munich's Olympic Park. The women, activists say, live in constant fear that their husbands or families will find them and abuse or kill them.
Precise statistics on how many women die every year in such honor killings are hard to come by, as many crimes are never reported, said Myria Boehmecke of the Tuebingen-based women's group Terre des Femmes which, among other things, tries to protect Muslim girls and women from oppressive families. The Turkish women's organization Papatya has documented 40 instances of honor killings in Germany since 1996. Examples include a Darmstadt girl whose two brothers pummelled her to death with a hockey stick in April 2004 after they learned she had slept with her boyfriend. In Augsburg in April, a man stabbed his wife and 7-year-old daughter because the wife was having an affair. In December 2003, a Tuebingen father strangled his 16-year-old daughter and threw her body into a lake because she had a boyfriend. Bullets, knives, even axes and gasoline are the weapons of choice. The crime list compiled by Papatya is an exercise in horror. And the sad part, said Boehmecke, is that it is far from complete. "We'll never really know how many victims there are. Too often these crimes go unreported."

In many cases, fathers -- and sometimes even mothers -- single out their youngest son to do the killing, Boehmecke said, "because they know minors will get lighter sentences from German judges." In some cases, these boys are revered by their community and fellow inmates as "honor heroes" -- a dementedly skewed status they carry with them for the rest of their lives. Currently, six boys are serving time in Berlin's juvenile prison for honor killings. "In a way, these boys are victims, too," she said. Sometimes they are forced to kill their favorite sister.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,344374,00.html

[ronna]

nagbasa jud ko anang about sa muslims etc. den na shock jud ko sa ilang culture. as in.
akong ex kay muslim man. iyang dad muslim, iya mom christian.
den gi kontrahan pa jud iya mom didto kay christian lage.
gipalayas iya papa etc. buotan baya to akong ex. maayung taw. so di jud tanan muslim maldito, though naa sad jud muslim na badlungon kaayo. ang tinuod lang sa ila is basta masuko, mopatay jud hinuon na sila.

ang sa ako lang bah, si Mohammed gani, kay pedophile daw kay ang last wife daw niya is 9 years old?
den mao daw ok ra sa ila na daghan wife kay para dali modaghan ang ila population den ila religion mo prosper daun. den murag ok sad sa ilaha ang mo marry ug relatives, am not relly sure. den mobalos raba ni sila if sila ang masala-an.
hmm naa pato daghan kato jud ang poso and machete killings sa indonesia ang akong na ngilngigan oi. manlibawt jud imong balhibo ato.

[INFRACTION]

stupid reasons... using jihad to kill people waaaaaaa

[bravo2zero]

Para nako, not to sound bloodthirsty, pero maayo unta gubaton nalang nato ni tanan muslim vs christian then kung kinsay modaug magpaconvert para usa nalang ang atong religion.

[necrotic freak]

Para nako, not to sound bloodthirsty, pero maayo unta gubaton nalang nato ni tanan muslim vs christian then kung kinsay modaug magpaconvert para usa nalang ang atong religion.

dili sad na pwde sa balaod ug doctrina sa christians.. pero sa muslims pwde na...

[ronna]

^bitaw. ila man gani sunugon ang taw if magbinuang.. so kamo ayaw jud mo pa buangbuang sa mga muslim. way hangyu-ay sa dvd hehe jowk.

[loginbray]

ug masunog ka makajowk jud ka hehehehe