Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

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Sayon ra pag-counter si Batman.


Martha!

[Blackbeard]

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?! MARTHA?! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!

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just because he has a powersuit doesn't mean he's a sure win. and the Hellbat has downsides since it'll kill Batman if he uses it for too long. beyond that I don't much about that power armour. is it immune to hacking, EMP, and/or technopathy? Tony can just force the suit to eject Batman out before he telepathically electrocutes him. http://i.imgur.com/cbhxHYt.png

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upon further research it doesn't seem like the Hellbat doesn't have anti-hacking/EMP feats and saying that it has would just be an assumption. well, Tony can just use technopathy in any case. then throw Batman into the negative zone.

Even with Javis, Tony's hacking takes time. Batman can counter hacking. No complete details as to the capabilities of the suit. But it has been shown to have access to speedforce hence, can stop Tony before he does anything. But, for now, we'll wait for a death battle between the two. hehehe

[Blackbeard]

Even with Javis, Tony's hacking takes time. Batman can counter hacking. No complete details as to the capabilities of the suit. But it has been shown to have access to speedforce hence, can stop Tony before he does anything. But, for now, we'll wait for a death battle between the two. hehehe

looked into it, and didn't find anywhere saying it has the Speedforce. but that level of BS is probably the only way he can beat Tony.

hacking doesn't really take much time, minutes at best. and Tony can just run around until it finishes afterall Tony's suit is fast enough to allow him to escape a black hole:
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or do other delaying tactics like illusions: http://i.imgur.com/iJ2Yp0K.png and turning invisible: http://i.imgur.com/sdPWwRd.png among other things. hell, he can just wait out until Batman dies inside his suit. probably just drop himself off somewhere and the suit remotely flies around the world while Batman chases after it.

or Tony just straight out technopathically eject Batman out of the suit.

[Echelnalf]

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Speaking of hacking, Bruce Wayne does not have an AI butler like Jarvis, he would have to do it manually. Jarvis would have already locked him out before he can type the code.

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looked into it, and didn't find anywhere saying it has the Speedforce. but that level of BS is probably the only way he can beat Tony.

hacking doesn't really take much time, minutes at best. and Tony can just run around until it finishes afterall Tony's suit is fast enough to allow him to escape a black hole:
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or do other delaying tactics like illusions: http://i.imgur.com/iJ2Yp0K.png and turning invisible: http://i.imgur.com/sdPWwRd.png among other things. hell, he can just wait out until Batman dies inside his suit. probably just drop himself off somewhere and the suit remotely flies around the world while Batman chases after it.

or Tony just straight out technopathically eject Batman out of the suit.

Did a bit more impromptu research and a bit of link here for more arguements: https://www.quora.com/Which-superher...-Hellbat-armor

Stated within that is that each main JLA members has added in their own touch to the technology, with a comic page showing Flash added in Speedforce. And, if you read a bit further, there are hacking feats of Batman. Added with technologies and his mind that surpasses extraterrestrial beings. There are screenshots of the comics that proves his argument.

[Blackbeard]

Did a bit more impromptu research and a bit of link here for more arguements: https://www.quora.com/Which-superher...-Hellbat-armor

Stated within that is that each main JLA members has added in their own touch to the technology, with a comic page showing Flash added in Speedforce. And, if you read a bit further, there are hacking feats of Batman. Added with technologies and his mind that surpasses extraterrestrial beings. There are screenshots of the comics that proves his argument.

well, I looked at the Hellbat vs Darkseid fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch55CiUYYUA

he doesn't have the Speed Force. if he had the Speed Force, he would've just ran in, grabbed his son, then run circles around Darkseid until he uses his Omega Beams, absorb it with the Chaos Shard, then bolt out of there.

so, I don't think he has it. Flash' contribution was probably to assemble it the quickest time possible. I know the Flash can steal speed, but I've never read anywhere where he can give someone/something the Speed Force. he doesn't own it. it's just something he can manipulate.

also this quora guy:

Conclusion : Hellbat has atleast multiversal durability

does that mean the Hellbat armour is on the same level of durability as the Living Tribunal and Michael/Lucifer? lel

and his reasons why Tony can't hack the Hellbat is because Tony isn't smart enough lmao.

Tony creates a suit that's centuries in advanced
http://i.imgur.com/BjOcn7w.png

able to process information at the speed of light
http://i.imgur.com/ty6nMfb.png

Tony hacks Dr. Doom's own systems
http://i.imgur.com/Tsbuvx9.png

and also hacked the Sentry's AI which was designed by the man who wrote the book on super intelligence: Reed Richards
http://i.imgur.com/ds8VPHe.png

praise from Reed
http://i.imgur.com/2UDwT1Y.jpg

made an armor with warp speed
http://i.imgur.com/UpQQrrx.png

also that black hole escaping feat from a post ago. made it himself.

shields that protects him from Dr. Strange magic, Scarlet Witch's chaos magic and the Red Skull with Professor X' telepathy
http://i.imgur.com/cU9jnCo.png

creates a liquid metal alien symbiote fused armor(Endo-Sym)
http://i.imgur.com/CutcZ4T.png


Tony wins as long as he doesn't engage it in a boxing match. just hack, EMP, technopathy to force Batman out then electrocute him
http://i.imgur.com/cbhxHYt.png

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well, I looked at the Hellbat vs Darkseid fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch55CiUYYUA

he doesn't have the Speed Force. if he had the Speed Force, he would've just ran in, grabbed his son, then run circles around Darkseid until he uses his Omega Beams, absorb it with the Chaos Shard, then bolt out of there.

so, I don't think he has it. Flash' contribution was probably to assemble it the quickest time possible. I know the Flash can steal speed, but I've never read anywhere where he can give someone/something the Speed Force. he doesn't own it. it's just something he can manipulate.

also this quora guy:


does that mean the Hellbat armour is on the same level of durability as the Living Tribunal and Michael/Lucifer? lel

and his reasons why Tony can't hack the Hellbat is because Tony isn't smart enough lmao.

Tony creates a suit that's centuries in advanced
http://i.imgur.com/BjOcn7w.png

able to process information at the speed of light
http://i.imgur.com/ty6nMfb.png

Tony hacks Dr. Doom's own systems
http://i.imgur.com/Tsbuvx9.png

and also hacked the Sentry's AI which was designed by the man who wrote the book on super intelligence: Reed Richards
http://i.imgur.com/ds8VPHe.png

praise from Reed
http://i.imgur.com/2UDwT1Y.jpg

made an armor with warp speed
http://i.imgur.com/UpQQrrx.png

also that black hole escaping feat from a post ago. made it himself.

shields that protects him from Dr. Strange magic, Scarlet Witch's chaos magic and the Red Skull with Professor X' telepathy
http://i.imgur.com/cU9jnCo.png

creates a liquid metal alien symbiote fused armor(Endo-Sym)
http://i.imgur.com/CutcZ4T.png


Tony wins as long as he doesn't engage it in a boxing match. just hack, EMP, technopathy to force Batman out then electrocute him
http://i.imgur.com/cbhxHYt.png

Although I do agree that what Flash contributed was not stated, however, the statement "assemble it quickest time possible" is somewhat questionable. How the panels were drawn doesn't show Flash assembling it. Which, I believe Cyborg is the best fit and can assemble it faster with his tech. Also, shown in one of the arguments, The Insider suit of batman can mimic flash's speedforce.

Regarding its durability, it is possible. Unless we can find an article or anything that can prove it wrong. The writer did prove some arguments to consider.

But all in all, they really can't be compared. They are from two different "universes". Written and created by authors with different intentions in mind. They are different in their own way. Each of them are considered smartest in their own Universes.

[Blackbeard]

Although I do agree that what Flash contributed was not stated, however, the statement "assemble it quickest time possible" is somewhat questionable. How the panels were drawn doesn't show Flash assembling it. Which, I believe Cyborg is the best fit and can assemble it faster with his tech. Also, shown in one of the arguments, The Insider suit of batman can mimic flash's speedforce.

Regarding its durability, it is possible. Unless we can find an article or anything that can prove it wrong. The writer did prove some arguments to consider.

But all in all, they really can't be compared. They are from two different "universes". Written and created by authors with different intentions in mind. They are different in their own way. Each of them are considered smartest in their own Universes.

how is it questionable? because of his speed, Flash can put together anything in a blink of an eye. Cyborg doesn't have super speed let alone the Speed Force. he isn't faster than Flash at assembling anything.

the Insider Suit can only mimic and for a limited time, also has low power reserves. I've not seen it do anything remotely close to what a speedster with the REAL Speed Force can do. and again, Tony can just hack, EMP or technopath his way to victory.

and multiversal durability is not possible lol. that is far too ridiculous. besides, the Hellbat received substantial damage during the fight against Darkseid, and Darkseid doesn't have multiversal++ striking power otherwise he would have won when he invaded Earth. the quora poster seems to be a massive Batman fanboy tbh.