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    you mean she's an atheist wannabee?

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    A chart showing the relationship between the definitions of weak/strong and implicit/explicit atheism. An implicit atheist has given little or no consideration regarding the existence of deities; such an individual would be described as implicitly without a belief in gods. Explicit atheists are composed of two groups: the strong/positive variety (who explicitly deny the existence of deities), and the weak/negative (who explicitly eschew belief in gods, but do not necessarily deny the possibility of their existence).

    Now that we all have a better reference point, it would be sensible to stop using terms like "true" or "fake" and simply categorize our "levels" of atheism according to this chart.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 02-18-2009 at 12:05 PM.

  3. #273
    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
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    A chart showing the relationship between the definitions of weak/strong and implicit/explicit atheism. An implicit atheist has given little or no consideration regarding the existence of deities; such an individual would be described as implicitly without a belief in gods. Explicit atheists are composed of two groups: the strong/positive variety (who explicitly deny the existence of deities), and the weak/negative (who explicitly eschew belief in gods, but do not necessarily deny the possibility of their existence).

    Now that we all have a better reference point, it would be sensible to stop using terms like "true" or "fake" and simply categorize our "levels" of atheism according to this chart.

    -RODION
    agree.
    +1

    OT chart kind of looks like an ass with a super huge pigsa

  4. #274
    Quote Originally Posted by pixelwise View Post
    agree.
    +1

    OT chart kind of looks like an ass with a super huge pigsa
    hahaha! a big blue @$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    hahaha! a big blue @$$.
    A big blue universes where our universe is color pink

    OT: This reminds me about Mutliverse where our universe is only part of it!

    The multiverse (or meta-universe) is the hypothetical set of multiple possible universes (including our universe) that together comprise all of reality. The different universes within the multiverse are sometimes called parallel universes. The structure of the multiverse, the nature of each universe within it and the relationship between the various constituent universes, depend on the specific multiverse hypothesis considered.
    Multiverses have been hypothesized in cosmology, physics, astronomy, philosophy, transpersonal psychology and fiction, particularly in science fiction and fantasy. The specific term "multiverse" was coined in 1895 by psychologist William James.[1] In these contexts, parallel universes are also called "alternative universes", "quantum universes", "interpenetrating dimensions", "parallel worlds", "alternate realities", "alternative timelines", etc.



    Multiverse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  6. #276
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    hahaha! a big blue @$$.
    OT: hahahahah. that made me laugh so hard.

    anyway..

    Edit: -- gi-delete nako akong gisuwat kay di ko sure --
    Last edited by dwardwarbinx; 02-18-2009 at 12:57 PM.

  7. #277
    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
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    A chart showing the relationship between the definitions of weak/strong and implicit/explicit atheism. An implicit atheist has given little or no consideration regarding the existence of deities; such an individual would be described as implicitly without a belief in gods. Explicit atheists are composed of two groups: the strong/positive variety (who explicitly deny the existence of deities), and the weak/negative (who explicitly eschew belief in gods, but do not necessarily deny the possibility of their existence).

    Now that we all have a better reference point, it would be sensible to stop using terms like "true" or "fake" and simply categorize our "levels" of atheism according to this chart.

    -RODION
    Ok.. now its clear... the TS is a strong expilicit.

    but the reason on why she became an atheist is just lame..

  8. #278
    Quote Originally Posted by pruzchett View Post
    nobody's "waging war" against atheists here ma'am. i think you're missing a lot. i don't care if some people are atheists, I mean I'd even prefer my friends to be atheists than religious fanatics. what i care about is people's logic. and i think the rest of those "war wagers" here care about the same thing.
    sir, the word is IF. I'm not saying anything but IF. Sounds logical?

    we think it's illogical for someone to dismiss the existence of a supreme being just because of poverty, or perhaps evil, or because of a bad experience. I too have experienced praying and praying and not getting my wish granted. it's quite bad actually. sometimes you just learn not to depend. and that's what I learned, I didn't depend my whole life on "God's wish" or whatever.
    Well, have you experience those that have dreadful experiences? Each person has it's own reason and when people try to pry on their lives and call them "confused" because they stop believing God they start to make FUN on them. Now find that too egotistical.

    Poverty and the ugly side of life can't really be proof of an nonexistence of a supreme being. Because first of all, a supreme being doesn't even have to be Catholic. So if a person is just disappointed in the Catholic church, he/she can continue his/her spiritual growth outside the church. You don't need to be religious to be in touch with the creator.
    As I have said, people have their own reasons why they shift to this kind of beliefs. You just can't seem to see it that way. Have you seen people snap? I mean mentally snap? One of my patient is devout christian and when his wife raped and murdered... he stopped and burn his house and and the church that he used to go and pray. You never assume what people think and do... instead, listen. That's the best way you can help.

    If you are really atheist, you would not be bitter about God not being there for you or for people you care. You never know, what if god's just there sitting and laughing at you because he's evil. But that doesn't mean he doesn't exist. He actually does and he's just evil. That's one possibility, right?
    I don't think you entirely read my post. Anyway, I'll you... I AM NOT ATHEIST OR AGNOSTIC. But if you want me to take a stand along with them... I can do that. Here's I think about Christians or any believers of faith... Atheists don't have reasons to argue unless somebody provoked them. I'll tell you what my girl friend told me. All she wanted was that they need acceptance... because every she goes out, neighbor is like going to grab her and mug her senseless. They don't need religious acceptance all they need is as a member of the society. Now, would still hold her for that? I guess not! The possibility here sir is that we commonly attack them with no means of asking their reasons.

    Don't you get our point? How can you be bitter about something that doesn't exist? How can one be disappointed in an imaginary friend? If I know that santa claus is not real, I wouldn't be disappointed if I didn't get any gifts on Christmas day.
    Well, that's just you sir.. of course you will react accordingly but as I have said... people are different. People have reasons and you obviously don't want to try to understand their need. btw, I am not atheist.

    But there are people sis, who say that they are atheist, they try so hard to shove proofs of god's nonexistence, they ridicule the church and the believers at the same time tell stories of disappointment in God, bitter atheists, i would say.
    I have similar argument with my friend long time ago and we still don't come to an agreement because we have different ideals. To be honest sir, christians are more verbally loud than atheists. Why? it's the same thing as people in this thread are doing... Count how many of them that are stuck in this thread and are making fun of the atheists? As far as I know, there are 3 atheists and majority of them are theists. Now, who is shoving who?

    if you're atheist, you're atheist. ok? we get it. stop whining about how god isn't there etc. and to lady blackrose, humanity should thank you for your charitable deeds.
    Again, I am not atheist! and I have to correct you here sir, I am not whining! I am here as a concern citizen and a member of the society living in one planet. and oh, you said humanity should thank her for her deeds... what about you? Aren't you going to say thanks for her deeds as well? You are human, I suppose.

  9. #279
    ^for the lulz

    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    To be honest sir, christians are more verbally loud than atheists.
    I disagree. It just so happens na mas daghan theists kaysa atheists so murag mas loud ang theists, pero i kid you not, naa juy isa ka atheist dira na perting ka-loud. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Count how many of them that are stuck in this thread and are making fun of the atheists? As far as I know, there are 3 atheists and majority of them are theists. Now, who is shoving who?
    Who's shoving who? Was there any shoving? O.O

    i have been hanging out in this thread for quite a while to know that there was no shoving and that of the 3 atheists you mentioned, most people (theists) actually quite like the 2.

    and Maikeru was right. This thread has gone uber far out and OT.

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    by some twisted way the misunderstanding in this thread actually fascinates me

    here's $100 (US) now i bet the tower of babel was an online forum

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