The Only Source of Truth?

[patrizekirsten]

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Has our brother presented the truth about reincarnation? My answer is none so far.

What are some seemingly contradictions that he presented.

As follows:

1. He admited that the Bible is full of contradictions yet he quoted it.

2. Truth is "Within You" yet encourage to find it to some ancient and sacred books.

3. To what is our assurance to that Talmud while we have not read a sentence from that book only just a hearsay from a Rabi.

[regnauld]

Has our brother presented the truth about reincarnation? My answer is none so far.

What are some seemingly contradictions that he presented.

As follows:

1. He admited that the Bible is full of contradictions yet he quoted it.

2. Truth is "Within You" yet encourage to find it to some ancient and sacred books.

3. To what is our assurance to that Talmud while we have not read a sentence from that book only just a hearsay from a Rabi.

I respect your points.

I tried to synthesize the teachings of some religions about reincarnation. They have the same belief. 1. Yes the bible are full of contradictions. Look at the Old and The New Testament. I have the right to quote it even I have no religion. Does that make me bad? 2. TRuth is within. Yes that's correct. there is a saying that The observer and the observed are one. We have to look The TRUTH without - meaning we have to study also because FAITH without SCIENCE is BLIND according to Frances Bacon. Can we not find truth also from other sources like the sacred books from other religions? I think we can. The answer lies in SYNTHESIS! ALL RELIGIONS BELIEVE IN ONE GOD! I want to know the universal truth contained in all religions 3. You might want to research the work of the Rabbi. I don't think it's a hearsay because it is found in the Talmud and I have read it!

[Tobi]

Has our brother presented the truth about reincarnation? My answer is none so far.

What are some seemingly contradictions that he presented.

As follows:

1. He admited that the Bible is full of contradictions yet he quoted it.

2. Truth is "Within You" yet encourage to find it to some ancient and sacred books.

3. To what is our assurance to that Talmud while we have not read a sentence from that book only just a hearsay from a Rabi.

additional bro niingon siya:

If you don't deserve heaven then you REINCARNATE(dili mo reincarnate ka sa animal) balik ka sa kalibutan tawo ra gihapon to learn your life's lessons.

then si John the Baptist daw ang reincarnation ni Elias. ako siyang gi cross-examine diha. kung si John the Baptist ang reincarnation ni Elias, dili diay deserving si Elias sa langit? dautan diay si Elias? unsa man diay ang kinabuhi ni Elias sa una why ni reincarnate man siya?

dili pud siya mutubag ug tarong.

[SERENAvsBLAIRE]

reincarnation ni? di pko sure ako belief ani kay naa mn gud verse sa Bible that says "But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him…" Then the disciples understood that he wastalking to them about John the Baptist. (Matt 17:12-13) .so ani mn ingno ni jesus so murag ni came back c elijah from the dead in the form of john the baptist? naglibog pko ani. i need to read more pa. di lng sa ko apil hehe.

[regnauld]

additional bro niingon siya:

If you don't deserve heaven then you REINCARNATE(dili mo reincarnate ka sa animal) balik ka sa kalibutan tawo ra gihapon to learn your life's lessons.

then si John the Baptist daw ang reincarnation ni Elias. ako siyang gi cross-examine diha. kung si John the Baptist ang reincarnation ni Elias, dili diay deserving si Elias sa langit? dautan diay si Elias? unsa man diay ang kinabuhi ni Elias sa una why ni reincarnate man siya?

dili pud siya mutubag ug tarong.

How do you know that Elias is already perfect without sin? If Elias really deserves to go to heaven, I don't have any problem with that. Maybe It is the WILL of GOD that he will reincarnate. How do you know that Elias at that time was in heaven?

[Tobi]

I respect your points.

I tried to synthesize the teachings of some religions about reincarnation. They have the same belief. 1. Yes the bible are full of contradictions. Look at the Old and The New Testament. I have the right to quote it even I have no religion. Does that make me bad? 2. TRuth is within. Yes that's correct. there is a saying that The observer and the observed are one. We have to look The TRUTH without - meaning we have to study also because FAITH without SCIENCE is BLIND according to Frances Bacon. Can we not find truth also from other sources like the sacred books from other religions? I think we can. The answer lies in SYNTHESIS! ALL RELIGIONS BELIEVE IN ONE GOD! I want to know the universal truth contained in all religions 3. You might want to research the work of the Rabbi. I don't think it's a hearsay because it is found in the Talmud and I have read it!

unya ang kamatuuran ba bro makuha na sa giingon sa USA RA KA RABBI? i don't think so.

even doctors have different opinions.

[Tobi]

How do you know that Elias is already perfect without sin? If Elias really deserves to go to heaven, I don't have any problem with that. Maybe It is the WILL of GOD that he will reincarnate. How do you know that Elias at that time was in heaven?

i think Elias is one of the greatest prophets of God. tungod sa faith ni Elias sa Ginoo, tiguman sa Ginoo ang panalangin ni Elias nga dili muuwan ug 3 yrs and 6 months.

contradicting man gud kaayo bro. kung si John the Baptist ang reincarnation ni Elias, then why is it nagpakita pa si Elias ni Cristo?

Mat 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

[patrizekirsten]

Am glad that you have read the Talmud but i feel sorry about it. The Talmud you are reffering to is the Talmud at its present state not the Oral Traditions. You may reread it a million times but still it is a borrowed writings, hence will possibly contains opinions of the writers who desires to rite his intent. Reread it and see for yourself.

[patrizekirsten]

Just calm down brother. heaven is at your side

[regnauld]

unya ang kamatuuran ba bro makuha na sa giingon sa USA RA KA RABBI? i don't think so.

even doctors have different opinions.

nag cite ra ko bro gikan sa Talmud kay niingon man ka walay gitudlo nga reincarnation sa Israel. Well, if you don't believe it, it's ok. Many religions believe in Reincarnation and that is a FACT!

Regarding science, Dr. Ian Stevenson and many others have proven that reincarnation is a scientific fact and not just a theory based on 3,000 documented cases. I can' t dismiss that as fabricated because it has been scrutinized by strict rigid scientific methods. If other scientists don't believe it , does that mean it's not true anymore? I think the answer is NO. That's why there are lots of Research on NDE's and Reincarnation on this area. We cannot just dismiss it as crazy and stupid. Can we? that's my point because I am also very objective. FAITH WITHOUT SCIENCE IS BLIND according to Frances Bacon. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!