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    the question in my mind is unsa man jud rason sa no wang2x policy kung ang Presidential convoy gihapon diay ang naay right of way in traffic?

    Do you guys know what the "wang2x" is for? dili na siya para lang mag-saba2x. It is to let the other people in traffic know that someone (perhaps an authority personnel) has priority over any of the lanes incoming or outgoing, unless occupied na when the vehicles are stopped. Katong policy ni PNoy nga di mag-gamit ug wang2x, that should mean that he and his convoy is to be treated like any other motorist--that is they have no right-of-way above anybody in traffic. I have argued time and time again why that policy is stupid, especially since it CONFLICTS with the idea of Presidential security. remove that stupid policy. Ang sweeper sad, naa manay wang2x sauna pud. And thanks to the stupid policy, confusion ray mahitabo. Bogo ang police kay wala siya nipadaplin after gipahibaw siya, pero bogo sad ang policy. Casually or in-emergency, dapat naa nay wang2x ang officials. Call it abusado or not, but they are authority. Naa ra nah nila if mag-abusar sila or di.

    You know how dangerous it would be for the president and the motorists in the road if there were to be some kind of emergency in which the president needed a quick exfil? Samot na ug walay wang2x.
    Last edited by æRLO; 07-26-2012 at 01:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    the question in my mind is unsa man jud rason sa no wang2x policy kung ang Presidential convoy gihapon diay ang naay right of way in traffic?

    Do you guys know what the "wang2x" is for? dili na siya para lang mag-saba2x. It is to let the other people in traffic know that someone (perhaps an authority personnel) has priority over any of the lanes incoming or outgoing, unless occupied na when the vehicles are stopped. Katong policy ni PNoy nga di mag-gamit ug wang2x, that should mean that he and his convoy is to be treated like any other motorist--that is they have no right-of-way above anybody in traffic. I have argued time and time again why that policy is stupid, especially since it CONFLICTS with the idea of Presidential security. remove that stupid policy. Ang sweeper sad, naa manay wang2x sauna pud. And thanks to the stupid policy, confusion ray mahitabo. Bogo ang police kay wala siya nipadaplin after gipahibaw siya, pero bogo sad ang policy.

    You know how dangerous it would be for the president and the motorists in the road if there were to be some kind of emergency in which the president needed a quick exfil? Samot na ug walay wang2x.
    I Love This Quote ... Bugo ang Polis Bugo pud ang Policy ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_bauer View Post
    bro, wala may gi-overtake-kan... ang advance party man ni bro, gipa daplin ang nka harang nga mitsubishi...
    Mao ranang istoriaha bro ... gipadaplin ug ning overtake ....

    Its a Wrong Policy ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve's Apple Project View Post
    maayo jud nga "No wang2 policy". Iya gud nang gihisgot sa SONA niya. Baruganan man na sa Presidente. Maayo nalng na kay iya gisunod iyang mando. Karon, about sa iyang sweeper, natural ra na kay PRESIDENTE man na. di man na congressman ra tawn ang niagi, Pinaka Taas na nga position sa atong nasod. bisan sa laing nasod gani mas labaw pa ana ka stricto ang convoy.
    tagaan jud na nato og importansya ang seguridad sa presidente (bisan di ta ganahan niya) kay sya ang nidaog (pila na katuig sad tong election oi, wa gihapon diay mo ka get over ana?! crabs jud).

    asa naman tong police ron? wa pa na taktak? gi invistigate gihapon? taktak na to oi abusado tong karajo. pakauwaw ra tong tonto.
    Mao na diha bro no wang2x policy man kaha .. so therefore walay priority ... iyaha na gibuhat pag first implement ana nag hulat sila sa Traffic ....

    Ug mag hisgot mo ug Security sa Presidente then ibalik ang wang2x aron wala confusion ... inamaw mana nga policy ....

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    ^bro, kung e-trace nimo ang NO WANG2X POLICY kabahin kini sa pg abuse sa dili dapat mg wang2x.. the only authorized personnel to use sirens are the President, AFP, PNP, ambulances

    PD 96 states
    WHEREAS, much of the chaotic conditions from which our people have suffered and still continue to suffer are the direct result of indiscriminate and unregulated use of sirens, bells, horns, whistles and similar gadgets that emit exceptionally loud or startling sounds, including domelights and other similar signalling or flashing devices attached to motor vehicles and used on the highways;
    WHEREAS, it has been observed that such unregulated use of sirens, bells, horns, whistles or similar gadgets that emit exceptionally loud or startling sounds, including domelights and similar signalling or flashing devices actually impede and confuse traffic, are inconsistent with sound traffic discipline and control on the highways, and in effect constitute a major problem in the maintenance of peace and order;
    therefore, in order for noynoy to command obedience, he has to model it out to the general public.. stupid as that may appear considering presidential security risks, but given the call of time when NO WANG2X POLICY was initiated, that's the best action the president can take..

    The gadgets or devices mentioned above may be attached to and use only on motor vehicles designated for official use by the Armed Forces of the Philippines, National Bureau of Investigation, Land Transportation Commission, Police Departments, Fire Departments, and hospital ambulances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Mao na diha bro no wang2x policy man kaha .. so therefore walay priority ... iyaha na gibuhat pag first implement ana nag hulat sila sa Traffic ....

    Ug mag hisgot mo ug Security sa Presidente then ibalik ang wang2x aron wala confusion ... inamaw mana nga policy ....
    Ang policy nga No Wang-wang bai para man jud na sa mga Abusado nga mga tao. di lang sa mga politico, hasta tong mga nipalit og wang-wang para ingnon nga politico. mao nga sakto rajud nang policy niya.

    Now, Going back sa iyang convoy, He needs to be prioritized jud kay president man sya, VIP man sya sa atong nasud. Ang iyang convoy mismo dapat tagaan na og dan sa uban kay presidente na, safety sa presidente sa atong nasud ang atong protectahan. Di na kinahanglna og wang-wang para ana. the fact nga en grande na sya og security, magpasabot jud na nga importante na. Di man ang issue kay walay wang2 ang iyang convoy, gihimo ra nang excuse para makalusot. Bisan di ko gusto anang Pnoy, uyon ko nga wagtangon ang wang2 kay daghan kaayo abusado, private citizens kasagaran. tan-awa ra gud karon sa dan, ang plate number kay gi tinted na?! pwede diay na? so para nako, ang abusado, mangita jud na og paagi nga makalamang sa uban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_bauer View Post
    ^bro, kung e-trace nimo ang NO WANG2X POLICY kabahin kini sa pg abuse sa dili dapat mg wang2x.. the only authorized personnel to use sirens are the President, AFP, PNP, ambulances

    PD 96 states



    therefore, in order for noynoy to command obedience, he has to model it out to the general public.. stupid as that may appear considering presidential security risks, but given the call of time when NO WANG2X POLICY was initiated, that's the best action the president can take..
    Para sa ako bro to model ani sa general public is to implement the policy ... ug dili mo tuman sa policy dakpon ... ug naay mo abuse sa policy dakpon ... simple ra kaau. Ngano man jud ad2 pajud sa no wang2x aron pahumot lang jud ...

    Pag implement ang problema sa Policy ... dili ang no wang2x policy ... akoa lang na bro ha ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    the question in my mind is unsa man jud rason sa no wang2x policy kung ang Presidential convoy gihapon diay ang naay right of way in traffic?

    Do you guys know what the "wang2x" is for? dili na siya para lang mag-saba2x. It is to let the other people in traffic know that someone (perhaps an authority personnel) has priority over any of the lanes incoming or outgoing, unless occupied na when the vehicles are stopped. Katong policy ni PNoy nga di mag-gamit ug wang2x, that should mean that he and his convoy is to be treated like any other motorist--that is they have no right-of-way above anybody in traffic. I have argued time and time again why that policy is stupid, especially since it CONFLICTS with the idea of Presidential security. remove that stupid policy. Ang sweeper sad, naa manay wang2x sauna pud. And thanks to the stupid policy, confusion ray mahitabo. Bogo ang police kay wala siya nipadaplin after gipahibaw siya, pero bogo sad ang policy. Casually or in-emergency, dapat naa nay wang2x ang officials. Call it abusado or not, but they are authority. Naa ra nah nila if mag-abusar sila or di.

    You know how dangerous it would be for the president and the motorists in the road if there were to be some kind of emergency in which the president needed a quick exfil? Samot na ug walay wang2x.
    bai, kung wang2 lang ang storyahan, dili ra ang Govt officials ang abusado ana. Daghan sad diha private vehicles nga mga colorom. mao nay isa sa mga gipang-igo sa wang2. Kanang mga govt officials, daghan sa ila ang di na angay mag-wangwang but abusado man, mao nay 2nd reason why angayan rasad nga nawala ang wang2 nila. imagina ragud, hasta konsehal sa barangay pwede magwang2? kung wa pa na himo-i og balaod, daghan gihapon ang abusado ta karon. at least karon naminosan.

    Going back to the police, imagina ragud na iyaha. walay licensya pero ni drive gihapon. pwede diay na? ang abusado, mangita jud naglusot bai. Support ko sa no wang2 policy kay kadtong mga di kinahanglna, di jud makapang-abusar ana. if VIP ang moagi sa dan, kabalo man jud ta nga naay convoy so walay abuso nga mahitabo ana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve's Apple Project View Post
    Ang policy nga No Wang-wang bai para man jud na sa mga Abusado nga mga tao. di lang sa mga politico, hasta tong mga nipalit og wang-wang para ingnon nga politico. mao nga sakto rajud nang policy niya.

    Now, Going back sa iyang convoy, He needs to be prioritized jud kay president man sya, VIP man sya sa atong nasud. Ang iyang convoy mismo dapat tagaan na og dan sa uban kay presidente na, safety sa presidente sa atong nasud ang atong protectahan. Di na kinahanglna og wang-wang para ana. the fact nga en grande na sya og security, magpasabot jud na nga importante na. Di man ang issue kay walay wang2 ang iyang convoy, gihimo ra nang excuse para makalusot. Bisan di ko gusto anang Pnoy, uyon ko nga wagtangon ang wang2 kay daghan kaayo abusado, private citizens kasagaran. tan-awa ra gud karon sa dan, ang plate number kay gi tinted na?! pwede diay na? so para nako, ang abusado, mangita jud na og paagi nga makalamang sa uban.
    bai, Noynoy implemented the policy on the sole purpose that he or any other public official are not given VIP treatment just because they hold those positions. That's why the policy is dumb. They're supposed to have VIP treatment, otherwise national security risk na nah! Mao bitaw tong na-late siyag kapila sa sugod sa iyang termino. And it turns out his convoy still expects the same VIP treatment. The 'No Wang-Wang Policy' will only confuse and conflict with the Presidential Security doctrine. Seriously, I don't want authority figures abusing their sirens, but I would hate the inconsistency of the policy and its implementation even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Para sa ako bro to model ani sa general public is to implement the policy ... ug dili mo tuman sa policy dakpon ... ug naay mo abuse sa policy dakpon ... simple ra kaau. Ngano man jud ad2 pajud sa no wang2x aron pahumot lang jud ...

    Pag implement ang problema sa Policy ... dili ang no wang2x policy ... akoa lang na bro ha ...
    tinuod bro, fun fare gyud ni sa 1st SONA.. atik2x ba.. pero nindot man ni supportahan bro... dili man ni sayop nga pg atik2x.. naa may atik2x nga mka hatag ug kaayohan.. adto lang ta mo supak sa atik2x nga dili mka ayo bro..

    lisod man gd ni wagtangon bro, kung dili sugdan sa prisedente kay ang mga uban opisyal sa goberno bisan walay labot sa authorized personnel ng wang2x na, sama sa mga congressman, etc... naa pakoy na kit-an nga naay plate IBP ga wang2x sd.. grabi na gyud ang abuso ani bro, ...

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