Who caused MORE damage to the country, ERAP OR GMA? Why?

[tolstoi]

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The glory days of phil politics...........

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[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

of course for the betterment, pero lisod man gud tuhoan bai nga for betterment of the Philippines kong makahinumdom ka sa pila ka bilyon gigasto og pagsuhol para lang makadaug sa election... og lisud tuhoan ang taw nga mo ingon "Nangawat/nangsnatch man ko... para palit og tambal sa akong anak." ERAP said before that he was for the betterment of the Philippines... ato ba lang gikalimtan ang iyang sala? All of them said that they are all for the betterment of the Phils., so dili na lang nato ukayon ang baho nila for the betterment of the Phils?

Â*Proven na ba na ang govt funds gi gamit ni PGMA to get her to the seat ? Or gikan lang na siya na accusations pod from the OPPOSITION ? Honestly wa ko kabalo bai and it is not a sarcastic comment .... otherwise hagbay ra na na preso si PGMA if tinuod na .

Kay dili siya ganahan mo pili og pareho niya?

Â*Maybe or maybe not pero someone who u can trust . Commonsense na man na sa usa ka leader .

kanang strategies bai nga manonto sa mga taw?

Â* DIli na sakto pero you have to prove it first na NANONTO si PGMA .. in what way ?

is that what you call pagpakabana? Playing maneuvers para dili siya ma corner?

Â*Ug di ka magpakabana bai TKO'd man gyud ka sa OPPOSITION .

[tolstoi]

1. Stock Market Manipulation
2. Favors to his friends
3. Jueteng Payola
4. Bobby Dacer's case
5. Favoring the Marcoses
6. Drinking binge in Malacanang
7. Masterminding "EDSA 3"
8. Masterminding Oakwood mutiny

ahhhh...remembering the days....

[monrose29]

nag lalis baya mog kinsay nag hatag og damage.. nga prehas ra man ni silang duha......

for me wa jud ma pili ana nilang duha... PRO GMA man to-od ko pero wala nako gi salikway nga si GMA nag hatag pod og ka gubot sa aton nasod..

ang ako lang ika sulti kong gusto jud ta og ka usaban... ilisdan na tanan mga official government....kay wa nay mapili ana nila mga hangol og pwesto..... magpaka limpyo..... mura bag wa pod manikas..

in ana jud na.. " ANG TIKASAN... MA TIKASAN POD"

[FK]

Proven na ba na ang govt funds gi gamit ni PGMA to get her to the seat ? Or gikan lang na siya na accusations pod from the OPPOSITION ? Honestly wa ko kabalo bai and it is not a sarcastic comment .... otherwise hagbay ra na na preso si PGMA if tinuod na.

mao bitaw naa onta'y impeachment bai... para matugkad nato. Â*onsaon pagka preso nga wala ma'y kaso... gi basura man ang kaso tungod lang sa technicalities. These are serious allegations that need answers.

Maybe or maybe not pero someone who u can trust . Commonsense na man na sa usa ka leader.

wala jud d i lain bai nga trustworthy nga hasta iyang kauban makasalig sab? Â*Kanang madawat sab ninyo as a leader... grabe na man sab.

DIli na sakto pero you have to prove it first na NANONTO si PGMA .. in what way ?

not necessarily GMA but the administration... as you've said opposition=ERAP, so administration=GMA. balikon na sab nako.
- nagpagawas og 2 ka recording si Bunye... this is the original and this is the fake.
- nagpagawas si Chavit og recording... conversation kono ni ERAP in ousting GMA.
- nagpagawas si Defensor og findings kono from Barry Dickey claiming that the Garci recordings are spliced.
Dili ba ni pagpanonto sa mga taw? Â*Hatagan nila og sayop nga information? Â*Og dili ba ka mo samot og pagduda nga duna jud gibuhat sila GMA og duna'y cover-up nga nahitabo.

[Archer_Sault]

nah ga lalis na si FK and Sprigfield... hehehe... nah tan-awa ingon btaw ko nga ayaw jud pataka ug ingon sa mga accusations kung way saktong basehan... FK ingon ka naNUNTO si GMA... in what katong mga tape release? alangan naNUNTO sad gud ang oposisyon... alangan mag pa tunto sad ka... so sakto jud... kung tikasan ka, aw tikasi sad para mag tinikasay tang tanan...tapos HAPPY na kaayo ta hehehehe

Springfield... ni abot nka ug 703 points!!! koerk tanan!!!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

OT - Actually kami ni bao FK mag lalis ... mura mi ug the more u hate the more u love type bitaw ..CHARING hehehe pero ako never man gyud ko na PRO GMA but I have non choice but to support her than give my support sa opposition . Bisan di na si PGMA , most likely same thing will happen .... ilabi na ang line up sa opposition sila Estrada ug Lacson .

[pandisal]

That's the point... love your enemy... not that we are an "ENEMY"... nag kasumpaki lang ang mga opinion.Â*

back to topic... Erap might have a good intention for our country at first... but i think he was overwhelm by his
questionable advisers and commit a lot of mistakes which sometimes are too obvious... as for GMA... well, first of
all, its all political problems... empeachment you say? well still a whole political process... and the ones whose
making the damage nowadays.. is the people in the opposition who don't want to accept on any political defeats,
be the election or the empeachment process.

[s.n.m.p.]

1. Stock Market Manipulation
2. Favors to his friends
3. Jueteng Payola
4. Bobby Dacer's case
5. Favoring the Marcoses
6. Drinking binge in Malacanang
7. Masterminding "EDSA 3"
8. Masterminding Oakwood mutiny

ahhhh...remembering the days....

Ngano man diay kung mag inom si Erap. After office hours ra man.

[s.n.m.p.]

1. Stock Market Manipulation - was it proven?
2. Favors to his friends - no evidence
3. Jueteng Payola-self serving statement of Sabit Singson
4. Bobby Dacer's case- no evidence
5. Favoring the Marcoses-speculative
6. Drinking binge in Malacanang- not a crime.
7. Masterminding "EDSA 3" - speculations
8. Masterminding Oakwood mutiny- another speculation

ahhhh...hearsay....