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  1. #2651

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?


    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    The book of Genesis must've been written somewhere between 500BCE or later.. di man ang Ginoo ang gasuwat ana, lol, tawo rman... mura gud anang mga paintings sa cave.. di man gud ma explain sa tao bro ang mga butang2 maon gahimo sila ug mga dieties para matagaan ug tubag ilang mga pangutana.. diff country diff story, sa greece ug sa rome si Zeus ug ang titans, sa Europe si Thor, sa India Krishna, Shiva ug ktong turtle ug elepante nga nag patong2, sa middle east mao to si Jehovah, mga Injans sauna sa Amerika lain pud tong ilaha kay mga spirit2, mura'g ato nga time ang China ra cguro ang naay mas better nga concept kay Philosophical man tong ilaha...

    lage makat-on ka madugat kong mag cge kag tubag sa akong mga pangutana ug sa uban hahaha, google lang sa tubag payts na
    kani bro murag ta-as ni kinahanglan nig lain2x nga verse para matubag ngano naka suwat ang writer ani, unya lang ko hapon tubag ani ig uli nako house di ni madalag google

    d a ra di ei bro google na lng ko hehehe
    "At that time the Lord said to me [Moses], "Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones and come up to me on the mountain. Also make a wooden chest. I will write on the tablets the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke. Then you are to put them in the chest." (Deut. 10:1-2)

    so knowing that sa genesis wla ma mention ug kinsa ang writer posible nga tawo gyud nag suwat, pro base ani sa panahon ni moses nay oh gisugo sya(moses) pag Chisel out two stone tablets. guided by God.
    Last edited by slabdans; 11-28-2012 at 09:43 AM.

  2. #2652

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by neshem View Post
    so naa cguro tay "gene" sa angel noh kay tungod sa genesis 6?

    6 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.
    ako ni up imo pangutana sir @neshem kay aron maexplainan ta sa mga master diri...


    OT: abi nako birds ra imo geresearch parti ug genetics sir, hehehe. karon pa sad ko kibaw naa sad diay sa bible tao hybrid angels. ako nahibawan hybrid maya ra ni sir choya ug sir matty

    OnT: nagatou...

  3. #2653

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Gen -beginning or origin
    Genesis -beginning the story of the bible
    Genetics -beginning of tissues or cells

    wala lang share lang ko Ont man gihapon na

  4. #2654

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    kani bro murag ta-as ni kinahanglan nig lain2x nga verse para matubag ngano naka suwat ang writer ani, unya lang ko hapon tubag ani ig uli nako house di ni madalag google

    d a ra di ei bro google na lng ko hehehe
    "At that time the Lord said to me [Moses], "Chisel out two stone tablets like the first ones and come up to me on the mountain. Also make a wooden chest. I will write on the tablets the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke. Then you are to put them in the chest." (Deut. 10:1-2)

    so knowing that sa genesis wla ma mention ug kinsa ang writer posible nga tawo gyud nag suwat, pro base ani sa panahon ni moses nay oh gisugo sya(moses) pag Chisel out two stone tablets. guided by God.
    Let me just answer it for you, here i made a cartoon to put it in perspective



    When he said "let us", it is believed that he was actually talking to Jesus, 'coz Jesus after all is the first born of all creation (Col 1:15).. but Given that he was one with the father and that the father was one with him, then he could be God himself,.. so in other words he was just talking to himself when he said that..

    Bro ang 10 commandments mana iyang gisuwat sa tablets not the bible, not the Genesis book.. so if naay nihimo sa account sa Genesis it was not Moses..
    Last edited by Xian120; 11-28-2012 at 10:29 AM.

  5. #2655

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    ako ni up imo pangutana sir @neshem kay aron maexplainan ta sa mga master diri...


    OT: abi nako birds ra imo geresearch parti ug genetics sir, hehehe. karon pa sad ko kibaw naa sad diay sa bible tao hybrid angels. ako nahibawan hybrid maya ra ni sir choya ug sir matty

    OnT: nagatou...
    Mao cgurong naay taong pak-an, matud pa nila haha

    The Nephelim, or better called as hybrids, hehehe, is the product of this angel and human union, it was said that they became so wicked, so wicked in fact that God decided to just kill 'em all.. But i think this story was created to put justification on the Noahic Flood..
    Last edited by Xian120; 11-28-2012 at 11:02 AM.

  6. #2656

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Let me just answer it for you, here i made a cartoon to put it in perspective



    When he said "let us", it is believed that he was actually talking to Jesus, 'coz Jesus after all is the first born of all creation (Col 1:15).. but Given that he was one with the father and that the father was one with him, then he could be God himself,.. so in other words he was just talking to himself when he said that..

    Bro ang 10 commandments mana iyang gisuwat sa tablets not the bible, not the Genesis book.. so if naay nihimo sa account sa Genesis it was not Moses..
    gisuwat na ni apostol paul para sa taga colosas

    col 1:2-3 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
    We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
    -it clearly states the father and the son, not in only one being.

    col1 12-15
    12Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

    13Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
    -who is the Son?(Jesus)

    14In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

    15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    ako sabot ana bro kay si Jesus has the image of the Father (liwat ba asa man di ei maliwat ang anak? )

    sakto ka bro 10 commandments ang iyang gisuwat unsa pasabot ana? nakahimo man gani siyag suwat hangtod sa panahon ni moses unsa pa kaha atong sinogdanan pa lang sa paghimo niya sa kalibutan, mao nay ako pasabot nga basin ug naay pay wala madiskobrehe sa science mao naka kulang kulang ang scripture POV ra na ako bro

    google gihapon q base bro hehe
    Last edited by slabdans; 11-28-2012 at 11:15 AM.

  7. #2657

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    gisuwat na ni apostol paul para sa taga colosas

    col 1:2-3 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
    We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,
    -it states the father and the son, not in only one being.

    col1 12-15
    12Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

    13Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
    -who is the Son?(Jesus)

    14In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

    15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    akosabot ana bro kay si Jesus has the image of the Father (liwat ba asa man di ei maliwat ang anak? )
    Bravo!!! hahaha, nakat-on njud ka da, wan-a saon nlang ang trabaho nimo ani ron, hahaha...

    But sabta ang Trinity bro... God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.. usa rman na sila, one God 3 persona.. so it couldnt be 3 different persons, it is believed to be 3 different forms of a single substance.. murag tubig ba nga gisud nimog tulo ka baso nga lain2 ug gidak-on, lain2 ug porma but the same water, kong isagol nimo mahimo nga usa.. so kanang GOd the father ug God the son parihas rna sila Ginoo, they both came from a single entity which is God.. gets?.. so in the beginning before natawo ang God the Son ug before gihimo sa Ginoo ang tawo usa rana sila nga entity kanang si God the Father ug God the son, kay wa pman na sila gabuwag,. so when he said "let us" he was actually talking to God the Son which is within him, which is him.. gets?

  8. #2658

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    sakto ka bro 10 commandments ang iyang gisuwat unsa pasabot ana? nakahimo man gani siyag suwat hangtod sa panahon ni moses unsa pa kaha atong sinogdanan pa lang sa paghimo niya sa kalibutan, mao nay ako pasabot nga basin ug naay pay wala madiskobrehe sa science mao naka kulang kulang ang scripture POV ra na ako bro

    google gihapon q base bro hehe
    aw naa sad kay point bro, hehehe, posible sad nga siya ang gasuwat mismo sa old testament nya gi rewrite sa tao so as to preserve his word... hahaha, but para nko tawo rjud ang gasuwat ana... Man was not created in the image of God but rather it was God who was created in the image of man.. ahaha, gets?.. but akoa rnang opinion bro, we are entitled to think after all, hehehe... Para nko knang old testament di man tinuod tanan nga mga story diha, mas naa pay sense nko ang New Testament... mao bitawng 1st reading rna ang Old testament, haha ang Homily ari jd sa new..

  9. #2659

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  10. #2660

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Bravo!!! hahaha, nakat-on njud ka da, wan-a saon nlang ang trabaho nimo ani ron, hahaha...

    But sabta ang Trinity bro... God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.. usa rman na sila, one God 3 persona.. so it couldnt be 3 different persons, it is believed to be 3 different forms of a single substance.. murag tubig ba nga gisud nimog tulo ka baso nga lain2 ug gidak-on, lain2 ug porma but the same water, kong isagol nimo mahimo nga usa.. so kanang GOd the father ug God the son parihas rna sila Ginoo, they both came from a single entity which is God.. gets?.. so in the beginning before natawo ang God the Son ug before gihimo sa Ginoo ang tawo usa rana sila nga entity kanang si God the Father ug God the son, kay wa pman na sila gabuwag,. so when he said "let us" he was actually talking to God the Son which is within him, which is him.. gets?
    Trinity Bro murag wala man koy nabasa ana sa bible ang word trinity hinimo na sa katoliko, ako base on bible lng gyud para d ko magpalayo sa unsay naa sa kasulatan(echos). d man sad siguro sayop bisan kung ang naa sa akong birth certificate katoliko ang riligion pero mo adopt kog teachings from other denomination of Christianity, parehas science ba nga lain-lain sad ug authors and philosophy .

    regarding sa kinsay nagsuwat sa script bro imo sad na total ang ending ani naa man tanan ang desisyon sa mga reader asa ila tohu-an dba
    OT = wa pay tawag dri bro mao mag punay sa kog istorya hehehe

    mao bitaw ni engon si apostol paul sa iya suwat

    Col 1:9-10
    For this cause we also, since the day we heard it,do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
    -lisod man gyud ang bibliya bro bisan ako di ko mo ingon nakasabot ko ug maayo, ako lang gyud e try ug defend ba labi na dili q mag sige pray wal gyud koy knowledge of spiritual understanding.
    Last edited by slabdans; 11-28-2012 at 11:51 AM.

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