Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[noy]

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tuara slabs, birahi dayun..hahahaha!!!!

OT: xian, wa lang danha sah? senior member na...Lol pasalamat ta sa mga susama nga thread...hahaha

[noy]

Yes it's true...

inanay ang pagpasabot.. i guess in time ma consume rjud nila ang mga options, and by that time it's up to them to believe what they think is rational..

sakto jud bai, maski si Jesus wala namugos nga manuo tanang tao niya..
all i can do is share and give them options, try my best to walk the talk...
and pray that they will also believe...ana ra jud.

[digitalartistbem]

Hala ka diha, asa nman ni dapit, haska namang taasa ani!

Anyway, murag wala pa lagi ko ka answer sa main question Hehehe...

Answer: Bible

[John Michael Kee Largo]

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[Xian120]

daghang laws sa bible bro nga di na applicable...mostly Jewish,sacramental and civil laws...
like not mixing 2 linens, like land laws in the time of moses, not shaving of beards...etc..daghan jud
regarding incest, well technically it was a necessity to spread the genes...but i couldn;t agree more...eewww..Lol
if adam and eve were the first human beings..for the purpose of speading genes, i think they don't have much of a choice..

well with their level of innocence bai(children) whether limbo or straight to heaven...
for sure mag una pa na cla ug kalangit nato tanan! hahaha...
sorry but i cannot elaborate on original sin, 'cause that is something spiritual...
but technically,sa bible pa, life before sin was perfect, adam and eve need not to work for their needs
God provided everything for them...so diba ang punishment sa Ginoo is that they have to work for survival..plant crops..
or unsa pa na diha...i think that's what has been passed on to us...spiritually still caused by
the original sin..ug opinion lang pud na nako..
i just hope unta nga naay biblwe scholar,with PHD in religion and masters in divinity nga subscribe sa atong forum...hahahaha...
daun atbangan dayun ug ka level nga aetheist...kana...kay ,urag di nata katingog...magbinasa nalang tas ilang mga comment...hahahaha!

lage, nya gi accept gihapon sa uban, maoy nakapait..
hehe sauna pag elementary nko ngutana bitaw ko sa among Cathecist sauna, "giunsa man pag daghan sa tawo? nga usa rman ka pamilya ang naa?" naka sense na tingali to ang Cathecist nga "ayaayy padong ni incest da" hahaha.. murag wa to matarong ug explain nya namo, hahaha...

hehe first time nkong dungog bitaw anang original sin i had doubts.. 'coz why would a loving God instill sin on babies? why would he do that?

hehe lage nosebleed pud ta ana da.. but i dont think we need PHDs on this matter to know more, otherwise we would all consider ourselves as knowing too little to conclude.. i believe we can pretty much know them on our own.. PHDs and further education will only strengthen our belief.. but it would be nice to meet people like that..

[noy]

grabeha maka dalag explain aning mga CIA oi haha d manpud ta ka tulog ani ,lisud e.pili oi haha, we need a miracle!

bai murag ako ramay CIA nga active diri karun...klaroha na...Lol!
btaw, welcome sa discussion bai..

[Xian120]

tuara slabs, birahi dayun..hahahaha!!!!

OT: xian, wa lang danha sah? senior member na...Lol pasalamat ta sa mga susama nga thread...hahaha

Aw hala tuod da, karon pko kabantay hahaha, ikaw sad CIA naman sad diay ka

[noy]

lage, nya gi accept gihapon sa uban, maoy nakapait..
hehe sauna pag elementary nko ngutana bitaw ko sa among Cathecist sauna, "giunsa man pag daghan sa tawo? nga usa rman ka pamilya ang naa?" naka sense na tingali to ang Cathecist nga "ayaayy padong ni incest da" hahaha.. murag wa to matarong ug explain nya namo, hahaha...

hehe first time nkong dungog bitaw anang original sin i had doubts.. 'coz why would a loving God instill sin on babies? why would he do that?

hehe lage nosebleed pud ta ana da.. but i dont think we need PHDs on this matter to know more, otherwise we would all consider ourselves as knowing too little to conclude.. i believe we can pretty much know them on our own.. PHDs and further education will only strengthen our belief.. but it would be nice to people like that..

sakto bai, mao nay nakaparat sa ubang mga magtutudlo sa pagtuo...
kay magklaro ug tubag...oh well...di pud nato cla mablame...
prehas ra gud nas akong maestra pag elementary, ngutana siya pila akong score...
ingun ko fifty...ingun dayun siya...pifty? so i thought...sayop guto ko..yes maam
PIFTY!!!!Lol ....so its true, as we grow, we learn..

Lisud jud sabton nang ALL Loving God nga part bro...i don't think i would ever understand the fullness of the concept
in this life...all i can do is trust Him..about original SIN, ambut lang kaha ug literal ba kaha pud na ang pagsabut...
but mao lagio...with newton's law of cause and effect...it makes sense...
perhaps the effects of the original sin is what has been passed on...

i've always beleived that not all religious doctrines or pagtulon.an are 100% accurate...
kay of course, mga tao ra bya pud ang nagpadagan sa religion...maski pa tuod ud DIVINE influence
but naa man pud tay gitawag nga HUMAN interpretation...
sama sa dili pagmisa sa lawas sa tao nga nag suicide...mao man na sa una diba?
i never really agreed to that kay para nako mao hinuon ang mas nagkinahanglan ug misa...
gisugo jud na sa Ginoo? i think wala...and the church's legalism and being black and white about things might have caused it...
but i believe as predicted in the bible that the church would come into perfection...going back into the times of first hand witnesses
of Christ...kung sa una di jud magkaduol ang mga lain2 nga religion though under Christianity ra...
but karun...naa na tay gitawag ug ecumenism and non denominational Christianity..which promotes
unity in all Christians...sa una kay magpinatyanay ang mga crusaders...but karun peace ug love na..hahaha...
and of course misahan na pud ang mga nagpakamatay...oh well...in time...

mao2x...i changed my mind...walay nalay labut ang mga PHD diri..hahaha
kay dili na unya ta ka istorya...

[glennbraynalonzo]

S c i e n c e . . .

[Xian120]

sakto bai, mao nay nakaparat sa ubang mga magtutudlo sa pagtuo...
kay magklaro ug tubag...oh well...di pud nato cla mablame...
prehas ra gud nas akong maestra pag elementary, ngutana siya pila akong score...
ingun ko fifty...ingun dayun siya...pifty? so i thought...sayop guto ko..yes maam
PIFTY!!!!Lol ....so its true, as we grow, we learn..

Lisud jud sabton nang ALL Loving God nga part bro...i don't think i would ever understand the fullness of the concept
in this life...all i can do is trust Him..about original SIN, ambut lang kaha ug literal ba kaha pud na ang pagsabut...
but mao lagio...with newton's law of cause and effect...it makes sense...
perhaps the effects of the original sin is what has been passed on...

i've always beleived that not all religious doctrines or pagtulon.an are 100% accurate...
kay of course, mga tao ra bya pud ang nagpadagan sa religion...maski pa tuod ud DIVINE influence
but naa man pud tay gitawag nga HUMAN interpretation...
sama sa dili pagmisa sa lawas sa tao nga nag suicide...mao man na sa una diba?
i never really agreed to that kay para nako mao hinuon ang mas nagkinahanglan ug misa...
gisugo jud na sa Ginoo? i think wala...and the church's legalism and being black and white about things might have caused it...
but i believe as predicted in the bible that the church would come into perfection...going back into the times of first hand witnesses
of Christ...kung sa una di jud magkaduol ang mga lain2 nga religion though under Christianity ra...
but karun...naa na tay gitawag ug ecumenism and non denominational Christianity..which promotes
unity in all Christians...sa una kay magpinatyanay ang mga crusaders...but karun peace ug love na..hahaha...
and of course misahan na pud ang mga nagpakamatay...oh well...in time...

mao2x...i changed my mind...walay nalay labut ang mga PHD diri..hahaha
kay dili na unya ta ka istorya...

Apir!! haha, naa bitaw koy student karon nga pentecostal, ngutana ko nganong ilang babay tag-as ug buhok, ana siya nga wa daw sa bible ang pagputol ug buhok, nganong ikaw semi opaw man ka? hahaha wa katubag.. it only goes to show that there are in fact inaccuracies and misinterpretations on the bible.. like you said, not all religious doctrines are 100% accurate..

Whatever may be said to justify Original Sin, i still could not swallow the idea that Adam and Eve's sin have still been passed on to us.. coz i define sin as something that is done with a conscious mind,. well in a genetic sense it could still work out since genetic materials can be passed on from generation to generation., but still like the swirl in the water, as it goes farther and farther it tends to lose form and entirely disappear as it went..