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  1. #2421

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?


    Quote Originally Posted by tingkagol View Post
    The scientific process deals with collecting and analyzing evidence in order to formulate theories of our origins.

    The Bible, or young earth creationism, is a leap of faith, bypassing the scientific process and just believing that "God created it all" some 6,000 years ago in a span of 6 days.

    Science for me.
    Sakto sad ka in some point bro but science has limitations especially with the supernaturals. So God is the most logical answer to this puzzle.

    Naa ko example:
    *if it happen nagpuyo ka sa isla nga wai hayop then pag-uli nimo sa balay one day dunay turtle (ba-o) sa imong kusina, youre confused how did it came nga wala may ba-o sa isla....you were told by your neighbor nga someone nagpaila imong amigo naghatag ana. Since wala ka kita paghatag, dili ka motuo. Because of your unbelief, imo gipaagi ug scientific process.....counting pila ka days posible maabot sa imong kusina pagkamang.....giunsa paglangoy sa dagat....etc. Pero kung nituo paka sa imong silingan, dili naka mag waste time instead imo nalang atimanon ug pasalamat ka sa naghatag..diba?

  2. #2422

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @psychologic, xian,whitekelso.....

    grow up bro! ni evolve naman kaha mo ug insakto? try to listen this one para makasabot mo sa inyong kaugalingon....
    Ravi Zacharias Answers Atheists Part 1 - YouTube

    ayaw kayo iyagyag inyong ka-ignorante sa kamatuoran peace!
    ahmm bro breakeven.. ayos lang if mo ingon ka na ignorante and mo grow up me.. ahhmm nasabtan tika bro sa imo gcomment about namo. ayos lang na.. now, du really know us kay nakahibalo man ka na ignorante mi?? hehehe. kalma lang gud bro.. if d ka ka accept sa among comment so, d man siguro ka dapat manginsulto dba? if para d i namo maoy among nafeel na sakto, naa d i kay mahimo para ma change na? hehhe. cool lang bro..

  3. #2423

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Sakto sad ka in some point bro but science has limitations especially with the supernaturals. So God is the most logical answer to this puzzle.

    Naa ko example:
    *if it happen nagpuyo ka sa isla nga wai hayop then pag-uli nimo sa balay one day dunay turtle (ba-o) sa imong kusina, youre confused how did it came nga wala may ba-o sa isla....you were told by your neighbor nga someone nagpaila imong amigo naghatag ana. Since wala ka kita paghatag, dili ka motuo. Because of your unbelief, imo gipaagi ug scientific process.....counting pila ka days posible maabot sa imong kusina pagkamang.....giunsa paglangoy sa dagat....etc. Pero kung nituo paka sa imong silingan, dili naka mag waste time instead imo nalang atimanon ug pasalamat ka sa naghatag..diba?

    gawas cguro kon wa kay amigo bsag usa mao nay ikapangutana nimog kinsang amigoha nghatag sa bao.

  4. #2424

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    ahmm bro breakeven.. ayos lang if mo ingon ka na ignorante and mo grow up me.. ahhmm nasabtan tika bro sa imo gcomment about namo. ayos lang na.. now, du really know us kay nakahibalo man ka na ignorante mi?? hehehe. kalma lang gud bro.. if d ka ka accept sa among comment so, d man siguro ka dapat manginsulto dba? if para d i namo maoy among nafeel na sakto, naa d i kay mahimo para ma change na? hehhe. cool lang bro..
    bro, pasensya na usahay offensive ako magamit nga word. Yes wala jud ta knowledge pulos with each other but atong idea/comment mao atong gideal diri sorry if nasakitan ka but not intended personally.

    Igo lang ko ni-counter sa inyong pagsabot....let me quote balik sa imong comment:
    mao ba bro?? hehehe.. mao jd ako nabantayan, aron lang jd motoman sa balaod, i ntroduce daun ang fear hehhe.. kay kon d motoman, aw isugba sa kalayo.. hadlokon lage daun.. hehehhe
    Nakasabot ko bro nga dili mao ang inyong idea ana that's why for me it's ignorance from the truth of the bible.
    Hell is a real place. It is eternal torment. Mao tingali Jesus spoke more of hell than heaven and spent so much time warning people not to go there. After all, if people just stopped existing, why warn them? If it was temporal, they'd get out in a while. But if it were eternal and conscious, then the warning is strong.

    Jesus said, "And if your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 "And if your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to go into hell," (Matt. 5:29-30).

    Either literal or not, basta naay eternal punishment to those who have freewill and intellect but rejected God.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 11-22-2012 at 04:28 PM.

  5. #2425

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    gawas cguro kon wa kay amigo bsag usa mao nay ikapangutana nimog kinsang amigoha nghatag sa bao.
    lol basta nay naghatag bro! It's a matter of faith lang....

  6. #2426

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    bro, pasensya na usahay offensive ako magamit nga word. Yes wala jud ta knowledge pulos with each other but atong idea/comment mao atong gideal diri sorry if nasakitan ka but not intended personally.

    Igo lang ko ni-counter sa inyong pagsabot....let me quote balik sa imong comment:



    Nakasabot ko bro nga dili mao ang inyong idea ana that's why for me it's ignorance from the truth of the bible.
    Hell is a real place. It is eternal torment. Mao tingali Jesus spoke more of hell than heaven and spent so much time warning people not to go there. After all, if people just stopped existing, why warn them? If it was temporal, they'd get out in a while. But if it were eternal and conscious, then the warning is strong.

    Jesus said, "And if your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 "And if your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to go into hell," (Matt. 5:29-30).
    aw for me bro, d man sa ko angay masuko or mainsultu cz nasabtan tika.. ayos ra kau na.. if thats the truth para nimo, d naman ko ka change ana kay imo manang gbarugan n u mean it dba? heheh.

  7. #2427

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    lol basta nay naghatag bro! It's a matter of faith lang....
    kon dghan kag amigo, maka ask ka kon kinsang amigoha kay daghan man.. ug wa jd d i kay amigo b. unsaon mana ron? hehhe..

  8. #2428

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    kon dghan kag amigo, maka ask ka kon kinsang amigoha kay daghan man.. ug wa jd d i kay amigo b. unsaon mana ron? hehhe..
    ni against naka sa story bro ug nagpaila lang nga wala kay faith on the first place

    mao nay giingon nga alkanse ang wai pagtuo kay mangita pa sa tubag! hhehee.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 11-22-2012 at 04:42 PM.

  9. #2429

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    ni against naka sa story bro ug nagpaila lang nga wala kay faith on the first place

    mao nay giingon nga alkanse ang wai pagtuo kay mangita pa sa tubag! hhehee.
    faith with whom? ug alakanse sa unsa? or isa ka sa mga ng sleepwalk dri na kalibutan hehehhehe..
    Last edited by psychologic; 11-22-2012 at 05:03 PM.

  10. #2430

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tingkagol
    The scientific process deals with collecting and analyzing evidence in order to formulate theories of our origins.

    The Bible, or young earth creationism, is a leap of faith, bypassing the scientific process and just believing that "God created it all" some 6,000 years ago in a span of 6 days.

    Science for me.
    Sakto sad ka in some point bro but science has limitations especially with the supernaturals. So God is the most logical answer to this puzzle.

    Naa ko example:
    *if it happen nagpuyo ka sa isla nga wai hayop then pag-uli nimo sa balay one day dunay turtle (ba-o) sa imong kusina, youre confused how did it came nga wala may ba-o sa isla....you were told by your neighbor nga someone nagpaila imong amigo naghatag ana. Since wala ka kita paghatag, dili ka motuo. Because of your unbelief, imo gipaagi ug scientific process.....counting pila ka days posible maabot sa imong kusina pagkamang.....giunsa paglangoy sa dagat....etc. Pero kung nituo paka sa imong silingan, dili naka mag waste time instead imo nalang atimanon ug pasalamat ka sa naghatag..diba?
    Waste of time or not, you still bypass the scientific process. Applying it in that example isn't hard anyway:
    1. Ask the neighbor who gave the turtle.
    2. Call the friend who supposedly gave the turtle, ask him about it and if he concurs, thank him. (I would stop here)
    3. If you're really skeptic or if you find that particular friend to be untrustworthy on several occasions, ask for the purchase receipt
    4. If you're really really skeptic, go to the store where your friend purchased the turtle
    5. (...so on and so forth...)

    Obviously most people won't go into so much trouble just to solve the mystery turtle in the kitchen. It's not too much of a leap of faith either that a friend indeed gave that turtle to you as a gift. Or maybe it crawled from the ocean all the way to your kitchen. Both are physically possible. The important thing is to formulate a theory based on the available evidence.

    The mystery of the universe, however, is another story. Where science can, at the moment, say and is not afraid to say "I don't know" until evidence becomes available to properly answer the big question (probably in the next 100 or 1000 years), creationists just flat out believe without evidence that "God did it". Perhaps they find comfort that they should have an answer to life's biggest question, but for others, that answer just won't do.

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