Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[gshukaku]

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Akong pagtoo na jud tay creator bro GOD or Alien..toinks..kung e base nimo sa evolution pud akong pagtoo ang nag-una ang tao unya nakigs*x siya ug laing hayop mao nahimo ang unggoy..bwaaahahaha..

[Xian120]

Akong pagtoo na jud tay creator bro GOD or Alien..toinks..kung e base nimo sa evolution pud akong pagtoo ang nag-una ang tao unya nakigs*x siya ug laing hayop mao nahimo ang unggoy..bwaaahahaha..

every specie have unique Genetic structure or DNA, man cannot conceive an offspring from another specie.. AIDS ray nakuha sa tawo sa unggoy.. haha

an alien creator perhaps but not an alien of intelligent kind, i mean it could be but, the more probable would be that an asteroid or any other form of celestial object which carried some kind of bacteria landed here on earth and thus life started, but this theory is still under much debate.. life may have simply appeared here on earth..

[psychologic]

every specie have unique Genetic structure or DNA, man cannot conceive an offspring from another specie.. AIDS ray nakuha sa tawo sa unggoy.. haha

an alien creator perhaps but not an alien of intelligent kind, i mean it could be but, the more probable would be that an asteroid or any other form of celestial object which carried some kind of bacteria landed here on earth and thus life started, but this theory is still under much debate.. life may have simply appeared here on earth..

possible pod ni bro..

[mhaipush]

I am not really a bible reader person.. tobe honest, i don't even familiar with some of bible names. But considering that im a catholic, i believe sa bible. Science, of course has their own explaination. Ilaha lng jud nang g.explain ug maau thru sa ilag mga terms para angtao mkasabot ug maau. Kay sa karong mga panahona mn gd, tgsa rjd kaau ang mutoo ug miracles, labi na kababalaghan. I believe in the bible but i also agree with some of science xplainations..

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

naa sa Bible...
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

lisod lng sabton... sige lng basta naay phrase nga "In the beginning", mao na na

[Breakeven]

I believe both the Bible and Science....what I mean is TRUE science. The kind of science that the theist scientists hold

There is a misconception about science and the bible...but in reality they go together in synch. Science is just the study of the facts of the bible. The bible is not a science textbook....dili ta mag-assume it would give us detailed answer about the universe. But it is a spiritual guide for us humans...it is more important than any science textbook! it was given for us to be able to navigate through life safely. Whether we reject it or not, it would remain as God's eternal word and no one can destroy that!

IBSS - The Bible and Science - Do the Bible and Science Agree?

[Breakeven]

@chrysley

.....Well then, given the fact that that said god has not given or done anything to prove or affirm that everything in the bible is true in an observable way that can be recorded, shared, played-back and verified....

Allow me to share sad sa akong gamay nga knowledge bro
Para nako, it's arrogant to say we need God to conform to our liking. He already provided the way and its up to us to reject Jesus Christ or make our way base on our own comfort. Lisud man kung in ana ang atong mindset about Him...as if we wanted to get to heaven when we die but we dont want God to be there coz atong gusto may matuman....

...I would still say my position is logical even if god in fact were true and I would spend eternity in hell. I think that would be more exciting than spending an eternity in heaven praying anyway. How awfully boring that must be.

Makaingon pa ta ana bro kay wala pa moabot sa atua, same thing gud if calamities/death/destruction moabot sa atong kinabuhi, kung pwede lang dili gani ta gusto mahitabo sa atua.....how much more of the total judgment ang ihatag nya sa atua usahay gud, maayo lang ta mosulti kung wala pa mahitabo but when it comes, dili masabot ang pagmahay..... i dont konw if you experience fear or something negative in your soul the moment you did something wrong or against God (stealing, killing...etc). This guilty feeling...away from God's presence....Hell for me is like that place where guilty/lost souls nag-abot....hhehe.

Heaven is not a boring place as described in the bible......it is an infinite chasing of the Glories and wonders of God. Kung kita diri sa kalibutan wala pa gani makadiscover tanan2 sa creations in our entire lifetime, daghan man gani places/experience we inspire in awe bisan sa kagamay lang sa earth....how much more of God's kingdom

Heaven is a place of rewards for the saved, as seen in Matthew 5:12 and Luke 6:23. It is also a place where God is worshiped. This parable shows how awesome this place would be.......

Matthew 13:44-45
"The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field. Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he want away and sold everything he had and bought it."

Jesus said, "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you."

[slabdans]

hmm. here mga bro's nd ate's post ur opinions or beliefs.....


tnx sa reply...

bible ko atleast detailed
kay kung science ang basihan syempre adto ta sa theory of evolution na way dereksyon ug balaod nga gisunod basta lang nagikan ta sa unggoy nga nag evolve dayon wala na. pero kung bibliya naay comprehensive laws, orders and direction atleast naay directives asa ta padong.

[Peenut]

bible ko atleast detailed

unsai naka detailed? meaning 2012 years old pa ang earth?

[Chrysley]

@chrysley

Allow me to share sad sa akong gamay nga knowledge bro
Para nako, it's arrogant to say we need God to conform to our liking. He already provided the way and its up to us to reject Jesus Christ or make our way base on our own comfort. Lisud man kung in ana ang atong mindset about Him...as if we wanted to get to heaven when we die but we dont want God to be there coz atong gusto may matuman....

Arrogant huh... Or do you just listen and do as you're told without question? He's your god, not mine. I don't have to fear him. You see, you act as if the existence of your god is the default position. As if when everyone dies, believer or not they will go to a place where they will be judged and sent to heaven or hell. You act as if you're in a position to say, "oh poor unbelievers, they will surely rot in hell. thank goodness I believe without question."

I'll tell you a little something about myself. I was raised in secular family. My mom is a filipina and raised as a christian but adopted secular views while growing up. My dad grew up in a protestant household but held secular views. I was raised in a loving family with secular views. We shared meals everyday, we enjoy sports, we talk about science, art and literature, but we never talk about religion, about gods and the afterlife. My first encounter with religion was in school. When everybody else prayed and talked about god, I started asking my parents questions. My dad sat me down in the study room one day and told me, I can expose myself to religion, any kind, study how they work if I like and decide for myself what I want to believe.

In school I was more exposed to christian teachings and I started asking the teachers questions. They always seemed to have a hard time with me because none of my questions are like the questions raised by students who were raised in christian families. Mine were calling god's nature into question. The teachers didn't like that. They didn't like it when they themselves couldn't answer it. Everyday they would just answer the same thing. That we shouldn't question god. That we are not worthy to. I remember always asking back, "Why not?" to my teacher's dismay.

I knew then the big role that fear-factor and blind faith plays in religion. I had the worst grades in religion classes, and my parents would just laugh about it. Mind you, if I had horrible grades in math I would be grounded for a week.

In my family we were raised to be a good person, to respect every human being and to value life. We were told that we only have one life and to make the best of it, to love and cherish like no other, to keep learning and most importantly, to learn to say thank you all the time. We were told not to waste our lives doing things people tell us to do, in the hopes of reward in the afterlife.

You see the only difference between us is that I don't believe in gods and the afterlife. I've always been surprised when people I've just met ask me what my moral compass is when I don't have religion. It just never occurred to them that humans can be good and live happy fulfilling lives without religion. Some would even go so far as saying I don't have meaning in my life without religion. A rather ridiculous proposition I might say since I find a lot of meaning in my life, with my family and friends and my career, and every endeavor I chose to take. They just don't like the idea of someone living free from the shackles of religion. To them it's a very alien idea, something that shakes everything they stand for to their very core. Makes sense, since they were brainwashed with religion the moment they were born. It's become a part of who they are and they can't see past that.

Now you seem to think that I shouldn't question your god, as if he has some sort of power over me. I'm sorry man but that's just a figment of your imagination. You can talk all you want about how one doesn't have the right to question your god and I have the right to tell you how stupid that is.

What makes you think that your beliefs are in any way, better than the others? What about Islam or Buddhism? They have as much conviction in their own beliefs as you do. And yet you seem to think that your beliefs is the default position when it comes to the way everything in the world works.

Now who's being arrogant?

Makaingon pa ta ana bro kay wala pa moabot sa atua, same thing gud if calamities/death/destruction moabot sa atong kinabuhi, kung pwede lang dili gani ta gusto mahitabo sa atua.....how much more of the total judgment ang ihatag nya sa atua usahay gud, maayo lang ta mosulti kung wala pa mahitabo but when it comes, dili masabot ang pagmahay..... i dont konw if you experience fear or something negative in your soul the moment you did something wrong or against God (stealing, killing...etc). This guilty feeling...away from God's presence....Hell for me is like that place where guilty/lost souls nag-abot....hhehe.

We have that feeling too, it's called conscience. And we don't attribute it to a deity. Especially one that tolerates genocide and child sacrifice. Oh and that first thing you said about regretting everything at the moment of hardship or something? Not applicable to me, sorry. Why? Oh I don't know... probably because I just don't believe in it? Actually, I have lived through some pretty awful experiences (major surgeries, deaths, layoffs, etc.), and God never crossed my mind during any of them.

Heaven is not a boring place as described in the bible......it is an infinite chasing of the Glories and wonders of God. Kung kita diri sa kalibutan wala pa gani makadiscover tanan2 sa creations in our entire lifetime, daghan man gani places/experience we inspire in awe bisan sa kagamay lang sa earth....how much more of God's kingdom

Heaven is a place of rewards for the saved, as seen in Matthew 5:12 and Luke 6:23. It is also a place where God is worshiped. This parable shows how awesome this place would be.......

Matthew 13:44-45
"The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field. Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he want away and sold everything he had and bought it."

Jesus said, "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you."

"A place where god is worshiped." You're not done worshiping him here in this life, you have to continue worshiping him there too, in eternity? Yeah, makes sense. lol... I rest my case.