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  1. #221

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?


    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    whowww, slow down mga bro.

    Give you example, Henry Sy is a rich man but if you're going to compare him to Bill Gates will you call him rich?

    So Bro Eli has may business to sustain his needs and to give to his family and to the brethren. So the wealth he has is flowing, he didn't gathered it in the bank.
    So try to compare bro. Eli to other Leader in Religion, tell me bro kung rich ba siya.

    Will his wealth can stand even 1/32 of the wealth of religious leader in our time?
    Can you consider him rich if you compare him to MANALO?
    compare him to VELARDE?
    compare him to QUIBOLOY?
    compare him to the POPE?
    compare him to Almeda?

    now tell me who is rich.

    Peace!
    Bro rcruman, dili sa nato apilon ning uban ky managhan nya ang mo react ani... naa sad raba.

    Compared to the people that you mentioned, syempre mas datu sila ky mas daghan ang tao nga nisunod nila.

    first of all si Manalo, nga kauban sa imo leader before... kontra kau sila and mas dugay sila.

    Pero rich sad inyong leader diba? Ang usa sa mga sources nako is from a group that does not like your group very much so medyo bias... so dili nalang ko mo react ani.

    ato na biyaan ang mga leaders ani. murag klaro naman to imong post nga dili mo muhatag og tithes pero muhatag mo og OFFERINGS LANG.

    dili nasad ko manghilabot or mo comment about sa mga money issues sa leader ninyo, ky mga balita raman sad ni akong nadunggan, in fairness, dili mi kaila personally though twice ko naka witness og debate dinha sa my plaza dapit sa grupo ninyo og lain nga grupo.

    If naay mga money issues or accused anomalies sa inyong church, wala nako ana ky dili man ko member. Ato na ni putlon ky gisulti sad raba sa pulong sa Ginoo, that we are to avoid Godless chatter...





    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    whowww, slow down mga bro.

    Bro he is following this word of Christ:

    19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
    Matthew 6:19

    Peace!
    If mao na then maayo, That's good, malipay ang Ginoo ana.
    Ang dili lang nako ganahan sa style ninyo is legalistic ra kayo og dating.


    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    whowww, slow down mga bro.
    you're putting words in my mouth bro, asa ko niingon nga wala mis offerings?
    again, TITHES is a offering but not all offerings are TITHES.
    TITHES maoy wala mi pero naa miy offerings, get it? pero kung dili nimo maget aw bahala ka Ginoo ray mag-igo.
    Peace!
    KINI

    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    TITHES is a offering but not all offerings are TITHES.
    TITHES maoy wala mi pero naa miy offerings, get it?
    Asa man gyud, ingon ka tithes is an offering but not all offerings are tithes. so muhatag gyud lagi mo og tithes?
    asa man gyud bro, tuyok tuyok man ta ani... pls explain further

    If offerings are tithes than naa pa gyud na today, ky bisan sa statement nimo klaro man?
    If not all offerings are tithes unsa man d ay?
    If wala moy tithes then walay offerings... hehehehe, unsa naman ni bro... peace


    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    defensive? I'm not hiding anything, in our church everything is transparent from the contribution down to expenses, every quarter or twice a year all Churches offerings and expenses are shown to us with the receipt.
    Our offerings (money) has receipt and it will be count with a minimum of three person every local.

    Then let me ask you, did your church show you the amount of money get in or just the expenses?
    Peace!
    Bro all churches i know does this ky it takes one church to mess up the name of God and the rest of the other churches.

    sa question nimo: adid your church show you the amount of money get in or just the expenses?

    YES Bro

    every cent. negative pa man gani bro. hehehehe, ang amo pa mga church leaders tig tapal.

    PEACE. thanks for posting on this thread. padayun lang.

  2. #222

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    So ang leader ninyo, mugamit d ay sa kwarta sa buluhaton? ky quote: labaw sa tanan sa iya kaugalingong panginahanglan.
    can you expound?
    bro murag naa kay gamay problema sa pagbasa og pagsabot sa mga post, pero I will try to explain further for your curiousity (kuno).
    ngano mo quote ka kay putol just to show your intent?
    here read again my post kung pareha ba sa imo quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    Kami tanan musupport, pero ang Leader musupport pud sa buluhaton og labaw sa tanan sa iya kaugalingong panginahanglan.
    Dili angay hilabtan sa leader ang kwarta nga para sa buluhaton nga iya gastuson sa iya kaugalingon, pareha ni Pablo:
    ako balikon:
    Kami tanan musupport, pero ang Leader musupport pud sa buluhaton og labaw sa tanan sa iya kauglingong panginahanglan.
    So klaro nga ang amo leader musupport sa buluhaton og sa iya kaugalingong panginahanglan.
    SO ang iya kan-on og toothpaste, shampoo og personal needs kay siya ang musupport.
    or naa lang ka duda daan dili curiousity? Pero padayon bro, Ginoo ray mag-igo.

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier

    Asa man gyud, ingon ka tithes is an offering but not all offerings are tithes. so muhatag gyud lagi mo og tithes?
    asa man gyud bro, tuyok tuyok man ta ani... pls explain further
    If offerings are tithes than naa pa gyud na today, ky bisan sa statement nimo klaro man?
    If not all offerings are tithes unsa man d ay?
    If wala moy tithes then walay offerings... hehehehe, unsa naman ni bro... peace
    bro sure ka ok ra ka?
    tigaan tikag laing example ha:

    Tanang General (PNP) kay police pero dili tanang police kay General (PNP).

    So ang Tithes kay offerings pero dili tanang offerings kay Tithes, gets nimo?
    Pero kung mao ra gihapon ang naa sa imo hunahuna, padayon bro Ginoo ray mag-igo.

    Peace!

  3. #223

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?

    mao na style ni rcruman bro.. tuyok-tuyokon jud na niya iyang tubag kay kung mag straight to the point cya ma bunggo man! ug sa boxer pa mura ni siya ug si barrera cge tuyok2x sa ring kay ug mag pundo sigurado jud ni pacquiao!hehe

  4. #224

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?

    hahaha.. ang tithes naabot ni barrera... uyon ko ani, si barrera atong i tithes ni pacquiao, or si pacquiao hinuom natong offerings ni barrera... pili lang mo asa mo ana...

  5. #225

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    tigaan tikag laing example ha:

    Tanang General (PNP) kay police pero dili tanang police kay General (PNP).

    So ang Tithes kay offerings pero dili tanang offerings kay Tithes, gets nimo?
    Pero kung mao ra gihapon ang naa sa imo hunahuna, padayon bro Ginoo ray mag-igo.

    Peace!
    Ginoo ray mag igo Bro? sa ato pa sala sad d ay na ang dili mohatag karon?

  6. #226

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman
    bro murag naa kay gamay problema sa pagbasa og pagsabot sa mga post, pero I will try to explain further for your curiousity (kuno).
    ngano mo quote ka kay putol just to show your intent?
    here read again my post kung pareha ba sa imo quote:
    ako balikon:
    Kami tanan musupport, pero ang Leader musupport pud sa buluhaton og labaw sa tanan sa iya kauglingong panginahanglan.
    So klaro nga ang amo leader musupport sa buluhaton og sa iya kaugalingong panginahanglan.
    SO ang iya kan-on og toothpaste, shampoo og personal needs kay siya ang musupport.
    or naa lang ka duda daan dili curiousity? Pero padayon bro, Ginoo ray mag-igo.
    bro sure ka ok ra ka?
    tigaan tikag laing example ha:

    Tanang General (PNP) kay police pero dili tanang police kay General (PNP).

    So ang Tithes kay offerings pero dili tanang offerings kay Tithes, gets nimo?
    Pero kung mao ra gihapon ang naa sa imo hunahuna, padayon bro Ginoo ray mag-igo.

    Peace!
    Bro rcruman, so naa gyud gahatag og tithes sa inyo simbahan kung mao na? asa man gyud ta ani.... Naabot naman ta anig Pulis. murag layo raman ang pulis sa kwarta, tho daghan pulis naay daghan kwarta. bwahahahaha

    Naa gydu ko Curiousity Bro, pero base sa mga tubag nimo, nag duda nako...

    nalingaw nalang kog research... ky sa uban nako na research, dili raman toothpaste, shampoo og personal needs ang iyang kinahanglan og gigastohan...


    Peace

  7. #227

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by lomhanz
    hahaha.. ang tithes naabot ni barrera... uyon ko ani, si barrera atong i tithes ni pacquiao, or si pacquiao hinuom natong offerings ni barrera... pili lang mo asa mo ana...
    Akoy una ha .. ako mo referre ... uyon ko una nila duha atong himoong tithes

  8. #228

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    Bro rcruman, so naa gyud gahatag og tithes sa inyo simbahan kung mao na?
    bro ok ra ka? wala miy tithes.

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    nalingaw nalang kog research... ky sa uban nako na research, dili raman toothpaste, shampoo og personal needs ang iyang kinahanglan og gigastohan...
    unsa pa diay?

    Peace!

  9. #229

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?

    Quote Originally Posted by pijavier
    Ginoo ray mag igo Bro? sa ato pa sala sad d ay na ang dili mohatag karon?
    yes.

    Peace!

  10. #230

    Default Re: Tithes and Offering... Do you give the exact amount to church?

    OT: online nako!!..

    wahehehe kombati nasad...

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