Cebu Bus Rapid Transit system (Cebu BRT) promises a mass transportation that works

[vipvip68]

That is more costly and a huge eyesore. And fyi, BRT costs us 1/10 that of urban rail transit. Jeepneys should be replaced with a wider, uniform, eco-friendly, safer, and more organized public mode of transportation such as the BRT.

ako lang concern with BRT is that it requires extensive road widening since it needs dedicated lanes... how do you achieve this in Cebu without destroying the current structures... (i.e. try to imagine widening Escario and Gen. Maxilom Ave by 2-3 lanes and see the extent of structures nga ma affected.)

The elevated freeway wont be an eyesore cos it can be positioned outside the central area of the city.

Id also rather let the govt spend on the structure itself rather than the relocation and expropriation of prime real estate.

[REMBRANDT]

ako lang concern with BRT is that it requires extensive road widening since it needs dedicated lanes... how do you achieve this in Cebu without destroying the current structures... (i.e. try to imagine widening Escario and Gen. Maxilom Ave by 2-3 lanes and see the extent of structures nga ma affected.)

The elevated freeway wont be an eyesore cos it can be positioned outside the central area of the city.

Id also rather let the govt spend on the structure itself rather than the relocation and expropriation of prime real estate.

Exactly,
and I guess of a very sound planning.

[boyq]

We can reroute them to overpasses,
none would alight there I guess.

Funny.

Anyways, I will just wait for the go signal from NEDA.

[vipvip68]

Ako lang na observe is thats vehicles going from one point of the city to the other (i.e. talisay to consolacion) have to traverse through the city center as there are no other routes. This creates bottlenecks as vehicles trying to pass through the city mix with vehicles travelling just within the city center.

A good example is kanang North Reclamation Area road... from SRP, diretso diretso but once you hit SM, Park Mall all the way to the intersection sa 2 bridges.. traffic na kaayo kay nag mix na ka with Mandaue City traffic.

Dapat unta naay road to bypass all of that.

[greatoutlaw]

ako lang concern with BRT is that it requires extensive road widening since it needs dedicated lanes... how do you achieve this in Cebu without destroying the current structures... (i.e. try to imagine widening Escario and Gen. Maxilom Ave by 2-3 lanes and see the extent of structures nga ma affected.)

The elevated freeway wont be an eyesore cos it can be positioned outside the central area of the city.

Id also rather let the govt spend on the structure itself rather than the relocation and expropriation of prime real estate.

I don't think kailangan ug extensive widening through the route sa BRT. Ang kailangan ra na i-widen is the part where the BRT stations are located. I think enough na ang 3 lanes for the BRT route. 1 dedicated lane for BRT and 2 lanes for other vehicles.

[vipvip68]

I don't think kailangan ug extensive widening through the route sa BRT. Ang kailangan ra na i-widen is the part where the BRT stations are located. I think enough na ang 3 lanes for the BRT route. 1 dedicated lane for BRT and 2 lanes for other vehicles.

Kung 1 lane ra ang BRT, does than mean 1 way ra mu agi ang Bus? Based on the mockup nga drawing didto sa Osmena Blvd kay 2 lanes man ang i-take up sa BRT unya 3 lanes if naay station para the overpass will be used as an entry/exit point for passengers.

Also, assuming for example naay dedicated BRT lanes, unya dili mag widening... what will happen to roads like kanang Banilad road (Gov. M Cuenco Ave)... its currently a 4 lane road... with the BRT there, ma 2 lane nalang siya? I really tried to visualize the BRT but to me, dili gyud ni pwede if dili mag widening ug tarong unya dili ma kuhaan ang existing lanes for other vehicles... unless shared imong lanes sa BRT.

[boyq]

ako lang concern with BRT is that it requires extensive road widening since it needs dedicated lanes... how do you achieve this in Cebu without destroying the current structures... (i.e. try to imagine widening Escario and Gen. Maxilom Ave by 2-3 lanes and see the extent of structures nga ma affected.)

I'm sure that is already covered in the detailed engineering study for the BRT system. Proper planning is key to this. It would be better to hear from those directly involved in this project so that all concerns will be answered.

The problem right now is for the national government as well as the general public to be fully open-minded for something that is new.

[vipvip68]

I'm sure that is already covered in the detailed engineering study for the BRT system. Proper planning is key to this. It would be better to hear from those directly involved in this project so that all concerns will be answered.

The problem right now is for the national government as well as the general public to be fully open-minded for something that is new.

This has already been taken up by NEDA and DOTC and the President himself raised the concern nga it would require road widening which would severely impact the existing properties and structures along major roads.

I don't think its about being open or closed minded... it's about being practical lang about the feasibility of the project. We Cebuanos who use these roads on a daily basis have a very good idea kung unsay impact ani sa mga roads nato. Im all for anything that can solve the worsening traffic situation.... (LRT,MRT,BRT etc.) pero sa akoa lang, lisod gyud ni i-implement ang BRT cos our roads are really too narrow and widening the roads would pretty much disfigure the City.

A lot of people talk about preserving the look sa City by saying no to Flyovers and other projects pero road widening to me especially in areas like Escario, Mango Ave / Gen. Maxilom Ave. , Gov. M Cuenco Ave., would not be accomplished without tearing down a lot of the existing commercial and residential buildings/structures.

If the end goal is to decongest the City and provide an efficient means of public transportation.... we need to build proper highways that circumvent the City centers (Talisay City, Cebu City South , Cebu City South, Mandaue City).... The SRP is an attempt to do this (bypass Talisay and Cebu City South) ... but it fails because there is still cross traffic sa mga intersections along Talisay and when you get to Cebu City North traffic na kaayo once you reach SM... and then it gets worse as you near Mandaue City.

[boyq]

Kung 1 lane ra ang BRT, does than mean 1 way ra mu agi ang Bus? Based on the mockup nga drawing didto sa Osmena Blvd kay 2 lanes man ang i-take up sa BRT unya 3 lanes if naay station para the overpass will be used as an entry/exit point for passengers.

Also, assuming for example naay dedicated BRT lanes, unya dili mag widening... what will happen to roads like kanang Banilad road (Gov. M Cuenco Ave)... its currently a 4 lane road... with the BRT there, ma 2 lane nalang siya? I really tried to visualize the BRT but to me, dili gyud ni pwede if dili mag widening ug tarong unya dili ma kuhaan ang existing lanes for other vehicles... unless shared imong lanes sa BRT.

Yes, ma 2-lane na lang na siya. But with BRT, the volume of traffic in those two lanes are much much lesser since people will be enticed to ride the BRT already rather than PUJs since it's much faster and comfortable. PUJ routes will be decreased until it will cease as the BRT network expands. Private vehicles are also expected to decrease until we become like Singapore. Imagine.

[greatoutlaw]

Kung 1 lane ra ang BRT, does than mean 1 way ra mu agi ang Bus? Based on the mockup nga drawing didto sa Osmena Blvd kay 2 lanes man ang i-take up sa BRT unya 3 lanes if naay station para the overpass will be used as an entry/exit point for passengers.

Also, assuming for example naay dedicated BRT lanes, unya dili mag widening... what will happen to roads like kanang Banilad road (Gov. M Cuenco Ave)... its currently a 4 lane road... with the BRT there, ma 2 lane nalang siya? I really tried to visualize the BRT but to me, dili gyud ni pwede if dili mag widening ug tarong unya dili ma kuhaan ang existing lanes for other vehicles... unless shared imong lanes sa BRT.

Yes, what i mean is 3 lanes per side so 6 lanes tanan like sa Escario. I'm not pretty sure how they would implement the BRT sa Banilad road kay tuod 4 lanes ra man tanan diha.