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    Quote Originally Posted by wng View Post
    What information do we still need to wait for? It's obvious that it's one big expensive statue. Yes, it's supposed to cost PHP400M, not PHP1B. It's still one overpriced statue to me and to other people. Are we supposed to wait for them to publish the entire project plan on the Internet before we can say something?

    It's even worse that this is based outside of the Philippines. A statue does not need to cost this much. This might just be a front to send more $$$ to their offshore bank accounts. I don't even think this is for the tourist business, more like the squandering business. Who among you thinks that a huge statue is something you would spend PHP10,000 (plane fare + hotel + going to Batangas) to look at anyway?

    This guy is just using religion to take advantage of your soft spots for religion. The Vatican does not even trust this guy. Why build something FOR THE POOR that does not shelter them, does not feed them, does not clothe them, does not heal them. If the government did this project, everyone will already be yelling regarding this budget. You willing to wait for more info? 40% of the budget for something that is supposed to be for the poor but does not do anything for the poor is a good economic strategy?

    This is just the equivalent of UP building a 400M oblation statue, and saying that will do our education standards any good. Very wise investment?

    Well said wng! ... This kind of stunt is not really hard to understand...





    What we really need is Plain Simple Basic Common Sense - If wala ka ana you better see a doctor...
    Last edited by flanker; 02-13-2009 at 02:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wng View Post
    What information do we still need to wait for? It's obvious that it's one big expensive statue. Yes, it's supposed to cost PHP400M, not PHP1B. It's still one overpriced statue to me and to other people. Are we supposed to wait for them to publish the entire project plan on the Internet before we can say something?

    It's even worse that this is based outside of the Philippines. A statue does not need to cost this much. This might just be a front to send more $$$ to their offshore bank accounts. I don't even think this is for the tourist business, more like the squandering business. Who among you thinks that a huge statue is something you would spend PHP10,000 (plane fare + hotel + going to Batangas) to look at anyway?

    This guy is just using religion to take advantage of your soft spots for religion. The Vatican does not even trust this guy. Why build something FOR THE POOR that does not shelter them, does not feed them, does not clothe them, does not heal them. If the government did this project, everyone will already be yelling regarding this budget. You willing to wait for more info? 40% of the budget for something that is supposed to be for the poor but does not do anything for the poor is a good economic strategy?

    This is just the equivalent of UP building a 400M oblation statue, and saying that will do our education standards any good. Very wise investment?
    I share the same sentiments... You just said the words I couldn't say!

  3. #223
    usik-usik sa kwarta. nag himu palang na cla ug livelihood projects daghan pa malipay.

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    i don't mean to intrude with your discussions, pero when i asked about details, i wanted to see a link from a respectable source.

    di kaayo ko salig sa mga copy + paste man gud.

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by istoryaaah View Post
    YES! OBVIOUSLY AS WHAT THE OTHER MESSENGERS OF GOD DID!

    I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO JUDIEL NIEVA A.K.A ANGEL DELA VEGA?

    Where is she now? What happened to her? is she living in vain? or still with God? What happened to the MILLIONS OF DONATIONS SHE GOT FROM THE SO CALLED "ROSARY OF MARY FOUNDATION"??

    healing and praying is everything... but WITH A LOT OF MONEY COMES A LOT OF EVIL! I MIGHT NOT WONDER WHY JUDIEL DIDN'T SEE MARY ANYMORE... BECAUSE SHE GOT A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE BELIEVERS OF GOD, HE FORGOT ABOUT GOD HIMSELF!


    Is Father Suarez the second coming? or is he another businessman trying to run another business...? alleluia!!


    ... there you go. Judiel is the best example of using God as a tool for business. Millions has flocked to witness Judiel "Talking" to Mother Mary and a couple of years after, we are all shocked to learn that Judiel had undergone a ***-change and now has a bus-liner business... wwwwwwwwooooooooooo...... i guess i'll make my own hoax and use God to gain monetary freedom. Poor ol' God, always the scapegoat.


    .. the reason some of us here are against this move of Father Suarez is it's damn illogical to erect such statue worthing, 400 M or 1B, it's such a waste. AND FOR WHAT ?? WHAT'S HIS REASON ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by crinkle View Post
    i don't mean to intrude with your discussions, pero when i asked about details, i wanted to see a link from a respectable source.

    di kaayo ko salig sa mga copy + paste man gud.
    its okay bro i don't trust that source either... but since Mannyamador is so addicted to copy-pasting from the internet which he "WILL DIE TO PROTECT" the idea that its a "FACT". I just tried what he is good at doing.... but to my dismay, i don't like what i just did LOL!...

    "STILL COMMON SENSE" IS WORTH MORE THAN YOU SEE ON EVERY NEWS, MAGAZINE AND ARTICLES ON THE NET. AND YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A GOOD INTERNET RESEARCHER TO DO IT...

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    "STILL COMMON SENSE" IS WORTH MORE THAN YOU SEE ON EVERY NEWS, MAGAZINE AND ARTICLES ON THE NET
    Your "common sense" is just your unfounded opinion.

    As we have seen, you even got your facts WRONG from the very beginning. Your common sense isn't credible. It's not worth the hot air from your rearend. You're just using it as en excuse to cover up for your IRRESPONSIBLE IGNORANCE.

    Once you have the facts, make your judgement. If the facts say Fr. Suarez is wrong, then go for it. But if you have NOTHING but hearsay, don't be irresponsible.

    THE LESSON TO BE LEARNED IS SIMPLE: GET THE FACTS FIRST. DON'T JUDGE SOMEONE BASED ON HEARSAY!

    Even children can understand that. But I guess you have to really grow up.

    @crinkle
    There are a number of news articles on this issue. Most of the ones I have seen are from the Inquirer. Some of these are critical of Fr. Suarez (for example, bishop Cruz forbade him to have healing masses in his diocese). There are also some materials from GMA 7 and ABS-CBN. Some have been posted on this thread. I think these are far better than the so-called "common sense" opinions of some immature posters on this thread. Will these do?
    Last edited by mannyamador; 02-13-2009 at 11:50 PM.

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    Ever wondered who actually donates to this guy? (I'm assuming the funds come from donations.) See, if these people really know and want to spend millions for a statue, isn't that their business? But, and this is a big BUT, if the people who donate have no idea how it will be spent, then it's another story.

  9. #229
    Fr. Suarez's Montemaria project seems to be well publicized. That's why I don't understand why some people simply refuse to get the facts first before attacking it.

  10. #230
    Nobody becomes a priest w/o being first fed by the food of the Roman catholic church's culture and tradition in a good part of his learning life. Thus, when one is ordain as a priest, he represents the church that nurtured him: he is who they are. A fig tree won't bear an olive fruit.

    He basically expresses what everybody else inside the walls of the Roman Catholic church is thinking: MONEY. Another clear-cut reason why churches should be taxed coz the RC church is not alone in the business.

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