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  1. #221

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    like you bro i have also gay friends.. i actully have a gay kumare. yes i respect what they are but you cant deny the fact that they also do that sinful act.. well if they dont have fear in God. it doesnt matter to them
    It is so sad to say that we the " normal " people are hypocrites because a SIN is a SIN if talk about being CATHOLIC . *** with the same gender is nothing different from PRE MARITAL *** bro , the keyword is *** and how SIN was commited thru *** .

    Back to the topic , respetuhon na lang nato ang mga HOMOSEXUALS since they are not against us nor disrespecting us . If they indeed disrespected us by harassing , then prosecute that individual who viloated it because like LAAGAN SI ORGANIZER , he may be GAY but one thing for sure , he is not the GAY we are talking about here with basis from his comments .
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  2. #222
    From a scientific point of view, no one is "born" gay. There is no such thing as a "gay gene". Human beings make choices. There is nothing in nature that forces a person to become a homosexual. A person chooses to have *** and -- unless raped -- whom to have *** with. Since these are choices, the person must be held responsible for them.

  3. #223
    Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_
    40 It is so sad to say that we the " normal " people are hypocrites because a SIN is a SIN if talk about being CATHOLIC . *** with the same gender is nothing different from PRE MARITAL *** bro , the keyword is *** and how SIN was commited thru *** .

    Back to the topic , respetuhon na lang nato ang mga HOMOSEXUALS since they are not against us nor disrespecting us . If they indeed disrespected us by harassing , then prosecute that individual who viloated it because like LAAGAN SI ORGANIZER , he may be GAY but one thing for sure , he is not the GAY we are talking about here with basis from his comments .
    a very good example of justifying the act to fit the means! is the ABOVE statement!

    *** with the same gender IS not the same as pre marital ***
    Yes were humans and we do get tempted at times......... BUT......we TRY our best not to sin not to get tempted!
    Being gay is a living a lifestyle of sin!
    To choose to live in sin everyday .
    The bible and our religion forbids it !
    So tell me where the greater sin lies?

    Its not just "*** and SIN is the keyword....."
    ............Homosexual way of life IS A sin .
    In the pages of religious books its written man and woman.
    gay practices where always condemned.

    What do you mean gays are not against us nor disrespecting us ??
    they are attacking our beliefs ,our church our religion.
    mockery id say!

    Originally Posted by bcasabee
    Everyone has the right to protest, ang sa mapul-an lang. Even if we take out religion in this issue. The fact remains that sodomy would still come out unethical. Marriage should be the union of the vagina and the *****, not ass and *****. Forgive me about the terms if its a bit vulgar, but I had to use them to deliver a strong message.
    And speaking about rights? Marriage is not about rights and benefits in the first place. The central idea is about love and pro-creation. Those two concepts(or whatever you call it) are not rights and benefits that a state can grant. Marriage not centered around love and pro-creation is really cheap, as for my own opinion. Ex. a woman marrying a rich guy for money is not so ethical, but it brings a lot of benefit to the woman, assuming that her plan would work out.
    So, which marriage do you support? Marriage centered on love and pro-creation or marriage centered on personal benefits?

    Very will said . i agree !

    Originally Posted by mannyamador
    From a scientific point of view, no one is "born" gay. There is no such thing as a "gay gene". Human beings make choices. There is nothing in nature that forces a person to become a homosexual. A person chooses to have *** and -- unless raped -- whom to have *** with. Since these are choices, the person must be held responsible for them.
    Correct ! before ...gi classify ni sila under psychiatric illness .


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  4. #224
    Before we look at gay marriage / same *** marriage, first we have to remember what the Bible says about homosexuality. While the Bible doesn’t address the concept of gay or same *** marriage, the Bible does clearly and consistently tell us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). God does not create a person with homosexual desires. A person becomes a homosexual because of sin (Romans 1:24-27), and ultimately because of his or her own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving in to their sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger / rage, does that make it right for them to give into those desires? Of course not. The same is true for homosexuality.

    We also have to remember that homosexuality is just as forgivable a sin as all other sins. God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, liar, proud man, etc. God’s love and desire to save extends to homosexuals (John 3:16; Romans 5:. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17).

    To give sanction to homosexual marriage would be to give approval to that lifestyle, which the Bible clearly and consistently condemns as sinful. I believe that Christians should stand firmly against the idea of gay marriage / same *** marriage. Marriage is ordained by God to be between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:21-24; Matthew 19:4-6). Homosexual marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage. God forbids and condemns homosexuality, so He clearly is opposed to homosexual marriage. As Christians, we are to seek to share the love of God and salvation through Christ with homosexuals. We are to be loving and kind to homosexuals, while at the same time not condoning their sinful lifestyle.

  5. #225
    Originally Posted by taga_ipil
    Bible says about homosexuality. While the Bible doesn’t address the concept of gay or same *** marriage, the Bible does clearly and consistently tell us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). God does not create a person with homosexual desires. A person becomes a homosexual because of sin (Romans 1:24-27), and ultimately because of his or her own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving in to their sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger / rage, does that make it right for them to give into those desires? Of course not. The same is true for homosexuality.
    amen! this is what i have been trying to stress .

    Originally Posted by taga_ipil
    We also have to remember that homosexuality is just as forgivable a sin as all other sins. God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, liar, proud man, etc. God’s love and desire to save extends to homosexuals (John 3:16; Romans 5:. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17).

    To give sanction to homosexual marriage would be to give approval to that lifestyle, which the Bible clearly and consistently condemns as sinful. I believe that Christians should stand firmly against the idea of gay marriage / same *** marriage. Marriage is ordained by God to be between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:21-24; Matthew 19:4-6). Homosexual marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage.God forbids and condemns homosexuality, so He clearly is opposed to homosexual marriage. As Christians, we are to seek to share the love of God and salvation through Christ with homosexuals. We are to be loving and kind to homosexuals, while at the same time not condoning their sinful lifestyle.
    I agree with every drop of letters you wrote !
    still funny people try to challenge what has been written in the holy bible to fit their sinful lifestyle!
    it has been written and you have disobeyed by continuing to live that life of sin ..you will have to answer in the next life.
    If GOD means anything to you..... then .....

    Repent Dont justify your acts.

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    just a healthy debate folks
    nothing personal"





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    Quote Originally Posted by taga_ipil View Post
    As Christians, we are to seek to share the love of God and salvation through Christ with homosexuals. We are to be loving and kind to homosexuals, while at the same time not condoning their sinful lifestyle.
    nicely said bro... i definitely agree...

  7. #227
    True. Hate the sin but love the sinner.

  8. #228
    i dont have anything against homosexuals but people of the same *** should not get "married". marriage is a sacred ceremony between man and woman, and it is meant to happen only between a man and a woman. a gay couple of the same *** getting married is an insult of the highest level to the church and its faithful followers.

    now if gay people go to a judge and get a legal union or something else, then i am not going to disagree with that

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by springbok View Post
    a very good example of justifying the act to fit the means! is the ABOVE statement!
    There is nothing more close in justifying something than to compare to its counterpart .

    *** with the same gender IS not the same as pre marital ***
    Of course its not but the esence there which SIN was committed is on the same boat rocking like crazy .

    Yes were humans and we do get tempted at times......... BUT......we TRY our best not to sin not to get tempted!
    True , but just like GAY people to which NOT all of them are also in the same page of what you are talking about . One becomes a HOMOSEXUAL when it engages in sexual acts of the same gender . Dili na bayot ang 1 ka tao na ni admire and na attract lang sa same na gender .

    Being gay is a living a lifestyle of sin!
    To choose to live in sin everyday .
    The bible and our religion forbids it !So tell me where the greater sin lies?
    Its not just "*** and SIN is the keyword............Homosexual way of life IS A sin .
    In the pages of religious books its written man and woman.
    gay practices where always condemned.
    Just like also the STRAIGHT PEOPLE who are living together and sharing the same bed w/o the blessings of God in the form of the SACRAMENT of MATRIMONY . That is also a LIFESTYLE of SIN in the eyes of God and the Christian community .

    What do you mean gays are not against us nor disrespecting us ??
    they are attacking our beliefs ,our church our religion.
    mockery id say!
    In your eyes as a Christian YES , but what if the HOMOSEXUAL is an ATHEIST or NON CHRISTIAN ? Would that still be ATTACKING our BELIEFS ? Dont discount also the BIGAMY practices of MUSLIMS .


    my expressed [/COLOR][/I][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=Red][B][I][COLOR=Black]opinion on this forum my be mistaken as aggression to some,
    just a healthy debate folks
    nothing personal"
    True and I share the same sentiment , to each and his own . I am also making a WAIVER that I am not GAY and I am straight as an arrow hehehe depende sa buwan hehehe , bitaw I just reacted since the discussion ended up BIBLICAL , my only point is WHO WANTS TO CAST the FIRST STONE ?
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  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador View Post
    From a scientific point of view, no one is "born" gay. There is no such thing as a "gay gene". Human beings make choices. There is nothing in nature that forces a person to become a homosexual. A person chooses to have *** and -- unless raped -- whom to have *** with. Since these are choices, the person must be held responsible for them.
    huh?! ur talking about choices in a scientific term?
    im gay and i didnt choose to be gay!

    you? since when did you choose heterosexuality?

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