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  1. #211

    ^^ sakto gyd ka bro... comparing the kind of defense during the old days and now, mismatch... defense during MJ's era was to its perfection... but all of the sudden the nba change its rules to make the game more of an entertainment than a pure hard physical ballgame...

    right now, i think defense can't win championship. its all about who's scoring more... which i think take away the essence of the game.

    during MJ's time, defense surely wins championship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalditohoN View Post
    bro, you base on your analysis purely on player's finesse moves and flashy finish. you didn't take into consideration that during the 80's and the early 90's, player back then were more fundamental style of basketball than an entertainer, except MJ on that matter because he was the one who redifine the phase of the game with his unbelievable and spectacular moves, with respect to DR. J. but most of them don't base their game of flash but they built their game with the physical aspect for the reason 80's and 90's gameplay were more "RUBO" than today.

    let put bird, he is not a flashy and very athletic player but he is one of the top pure shooters of the league, he don't use his skills on finesse and grace movements but in our terms (MANOY nga player). he uses brain to deceive opponents and not quickness. one doesn't need quickness to be a good basketball player but a great shooting hands and the knowledge of the game.

    about kobe better than wilkins and drexler, well i partly agree but kobe won't reach this summit today if MJ was playing on his year! the thing drexler and wilkins didn't win a championship and others like barkley, ewing, stockton, malone and ehlo thats simply because MJ was playing during that year.

    so if ever MJ played during this year and as same age like kobe will maybe kobe will be likely a drexler during MJ's era...

    rest my case...

    clarify lang ko ani bro. Clyde "The Glide" Drexler won a championship ring. during his stays with the Houston Rockets along with Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon.

  3. #213
    ^^ yeah, i've noticed... ehhehehehe... but ako ta point ato when MJ was still around.... he retired during the 94 season and returned on the later part of the season on the 95 season...

    but still my point is still that with MJ around its difficult to reach to the summit without any difficulties...
    Last edited by MalditohoN; 06-11-2009 at 03:13 PM.

  4. #214
    if MJ was still around pag 94 - 95..

    I dont think maka championship ang Houston ato.. cguro 8th straight ang Bulls ato...

    yeah michael did a comeback pag 95.. lahi gyud basta dugay ka wala kadula sa game.. nawala ang iya ka mangtas..

    but pag 1995 - 1996 he made a promise, a he did take his fans to the promised land..

    the bulls won 72 games.. still the best in the history of the game

    MJ won the MVP that seson
    also won the All star MVP and The Finals MVP..

    if im not mistaken he is the only second player to so. the other one is Willis Reed...

    then na repeat pud na niya pag 1998... All star MVP, reg. Season MVP, and Finals MVP


    no wonder why he is called the Greatest... over achiever kaayo si MJ.

    I still wonder why this kobe fanatics still considred Kobe superior over MJ...

    kung compare gyud ang over all achievements nila.. perti pa gyud tawn layo a ni kobe...
    Last edited by depechebox; 06-12-2009 at 02:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depechebox View Post
    if MJ was still around pag 94 - 95..

    I dont think maka championship ang Houston ato.. cguro 8th straight ang Bulls ato...

    yeah michael did a comeback pag 95.. lahi gyud basta dugay ka wala kadula sa game.. nawala ang iya ka mangtas..

    but pag 1995 - 1996 he made a promise, a he did take his fans to the promised land..

    the bulls won 72 games.. still the best in the history of the game

    MJ won the MVP that seson
    also won the All star MVP and The Finals MVP..

    if im not mistaken he is the only second player to so. the other one is Willis Reed...

    then na repeat pud na niya pag 1998... All star MVP, reg. Season MVP, and Finals MVP


    no wonder why he is called the Greatest... over achiever kaayo si MJ.

    I still wonder why this kobe fanatics still considred Kobe superior over MJ...

    kung compare gyud ang over all achievements nila.. perti pa gyud tawn layo a ni kobe...
    i agree with you bro 100 percent.... well ilaha sad na opinion cguro by that time they dont like the bulls kay magcge lang ka champion mao adto cla laban permi sa kontra. they have the right to believe in who ever they want. ila sad nah. pero naa man sad uban nga kobe fans mu accept nga si MJ dili jud ma compare ni kobe kay si MJ jud ang pinaka maau nga tawo kung basketball ang hisgutan.

  6. #216
    If kobe played sa panahon ni jordan..thus Pre Zone Defense..he would have scored more than what he is scoring today... im not saying he would have been better than jordan..but he would have been more dominant..but Iverson proved that it was relatively too easy for guards to score without the zone.. a simple isolation would leave the defender at the mercy of highly skilled guards so ila gi ilisdan ang rule

  7. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by John_Dowe View Post
    If kobe played sa panahon ni jordan..thus Pre Zone Defense..he would have scored more than what he is scoring today... im not saying he would have been better than jordan..but he would have been more dominant..but Iverson proved that it was relatively too easy for guards to score without the zone.. a simple isolation would leave the defender at the mercy of highly skilled guards so ila gi ilisdan ang rule
    yes maybe you are correct about the pre zone defense era. it was more of a one on one.... but the players were more physical then. were defense was the key to success not just isolation plays.. lahi ra jud ang mga defenders sauna murag leech kung maka dikit sa ilang gi depensaan. i dont agree with what you said na maka score si kobe ug daghan because as what ive said lahi ang defense sauna ug karon. and we all know what happens to kobe when faced with a physical defender.. he will not be stopped but will be contained by the premiere defenders of MJ's era.

  8. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by boski View Post
    clarify lang ko ani bro. Clyde "The Glide" Drexler won a championship ring. during his stays with the Houston Rockets along with Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon.
    Clyde n Hakeem won d championships wen JORDAN retired... so no JORDAN during their times but clyde was a victim during JORDAN's era. thankful cla nga ni retired si JORDAN ky kung wala pa den maybe wala jdud ring nila.

  9. #219
    i think NOT! Jordan is d greatest basketball player so even kobe is there nothing will change. n bsyds, its Jordan who gave Kobe the courage n inspiration to Kobe since he is kobe's idol. =) Jordan is like the Father or a god of basketball so pls dont use his name in vain n keep off comparing Him to others.

  10. #220
    syempre makahimo sad cya ug ngan pero shadow racya ni jordan

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