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  1. #211

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?


    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE_CSA
    hehe ug naa lng unta moy proof nga tinood ni ang reincarnation motoo gyud ko..

    pero murag wala gyud moy proof nga naay tao ni reincarnate ug nipunta sa lamok, langaw, kabaw ug unsa pa na dirang mga ma la nga mananap hehehe

    I hope that you are intelligent enough to understand this position.


    Your belief in Eternal Soul and The Belief in reincarnation both belongs in metaphysic. Here is a question to give you some point to ponder...Do you have proof that your Eternal Soul is true? I bet you have no proof for this.

    There is no proof that after physical death a soul will go either to heaven or hell. for that reason i think it is very HYPOCRITAL on your part to ask for proof whne in your case you cant even give a proof for an eternal soul spending time in heaven or hell.


    But keep this in mind there are cases where monks can remember their past lives.

  2. #212

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    @SPYKE


    Christians at one time believe in reincarnation obviously not all of them but there were...They argue that the bible spoke of reincarnation. This is there argument and i would like to copy paste what geoseph posted. It presents the argument nicely.


    Malachi 4
    5 "See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. 6 He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse."

    Luke 1
    11 Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense. 12When Zechariah saw him, he was startled and was gripped with fear. 13 But the angel said to him: "Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to give him the name John. 14 He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, 15 for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from birth. 16 Many of the people of Israel will he bring back to the Lord their God. 17 And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous—to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."

    Matthew 11
    7 As John's disciples were leaving, Jesus began to speak to the crowd about John: "What did you go out into the desert to see? A reed swayed by the wind? 8 If not, what did you go out to see? A man dressed in fine clothes? No, those who wear fine clothes are in kings' palaces. 9 Then what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. 10 This is the one about whom it is written:

    " 'I will send my messenger ahead of you,
    who will prepare your way before you.' 11 I tell you the truth: Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it. 13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. 15 He who has ears, let him hear.

    Matthew 17 (also Mark 9)
    10 The disciples asked him,"Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?"

    11 Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands." 13 Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist.


    However...

    John 1
    19 Now this was John's testimony when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. 20 He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, "I am not the Christ."

    21 They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?"
    He said, "I am not."
    "Are you the Prophet?"
    He answered, "No."

    22 Finally they said, "Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?"

    23 John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, "I am the voice of one calling in the desert, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.' "
    ---

    Do references to John as Elijah come again mean Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist?




  3. #213

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE_CSA
    hehe ug naa lng unta moy proof nga tinood ni ang reincarnation motoo gyud ko..

    pero murag wala gyud moy proof nga naay tao ni reincarnate ug nipunta sa lamok, langaw, kabaw ug unsa pa na dirang mga ma la nga mananap hehehe
    nya ug naa dili man gihapon ka motuo sama ragud nimo ang proof kai libro..
    buta, bungol, amang, bakol, pungkol..ngano mana sila gi tuyo na nila kanang mga inborn nga adunay kapansanan?

  4. #214

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Chapter 2, verse 22 Bhagavad Gita

    vasamsi jirnani yatha vihaya navani grhnati naro'parani
    tatha sarirani vihaya jirnany anyani samyati navani dehi

    Translation

    As a person gives up old and worn out garments and accepts new apparel, similarly the embodied soul giving up old and worn out bodies verily accepts new bodies.

    Chapter 2, verse 27

    jatasya hi dhruvo mrtyur dhruvam janma mrtasya ca
    tasmad apariharye'rthe na tvam socitum arhasi

    Translation

    For one who has taken birth, death is certain and for one who has died, birth is certain. Therefore in an inevitable situation understanding should prevail.


  5. #215

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    hmmmm...yah i do blv....

  6. #216

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakboy
    nya ug naa dili man gihapon ka motuo sama ragud nimo ang proof kai libro..
    buta, bungol, amang, bakol, pungkol..ngano mana sila gi tuyo na nila kanang mga inborn nga adunay kapansanan?
    wala intawn na gituyo.. genetic defects intawn na kay ang tao daghan gibuhat nga makadaot sa iyang kaugalingon mao nga na apektahan iyang genes..

    pero take note, ug wala lng unta to makasala sila si adam ug eve.. wala untay buta, bongol, amang ug maski unsa pang mga kapansanan..

  7. #217

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Inline sa imong pulong spikes, genetic defects... tuo gihapon ka nga kitang tanan gikan ni adam ug eve?

    Ug wala makasala silang duha, wa untay spike_csa karon. Puros ta wala... sila rang adam ug eve hangtod karon.

    Spikes, I don't how your metal faculties workd because sometimes it is more amusing than logical. Opppssss.. sori poor diay ko ug logic.

    Maayo pa ang ubang religion pre kay recycle pa ang kalag. inyo, ug makasasala, tambog sa impyerno ug tarong aw, langit dayun... pagkaselective sa imong tinohoon spikes... imong ginoo nagsabwag ug equality pero dili diay.

  8. #218

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE_CSA
    kana diayng bible dili diay na scientific? hehe define science kuno beh hehe unsa man diay nasabtan nimo sa word nga "science"?
    huh? Bible scientific? Kinsay nagsulti nimo si soriano? Tawn sab nimo spikes pa define man pud ta nimo ug science... makatawa man ta nimo pre. Sulti kuno pre nganong nakaingon ka nga scientific na ang bible.

  9. #219

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan
    huh? Bible scientific? Kinsay nagsulti nimo si soriano? Tawn sab nimo spikes pa define man pud ta nimo ug science... makatawa man ta nimo pre. Sulti kuno pre nganong nakaingon ka nga scientific na ang bible.
    yes you got it right and i repeat that the BIBLE IS SCIENTIFIC.. ug magkatawa ka tungod sa imong pagka kuwang sa kahibaw kay tungod wala man ka nibasa bible. hehehe aw imo sad na.. hehe



  10. #220

    Default Re: Do you believe in reincarnation?

    BIBLE IS SCIENTIFIC

    LOL... Fortunately for you, there are rules that holds me back.

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