MERGED: Quirino Grandstand Hostage Crisis

[peewee_toot]

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^^sus! ga ayu lng jd na sila sa pagpa dako sa ilang mga tiyan...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

sir pnoy cudve done sumthing abt it directly by ordering a media blackout lyk gma did in her term.no doubt dako ta jd to difference sa outcome.iya pasumangil kay dpat jd dunay transparency again undeniable iya sayop adto.bsan unsang swat tngali sir d matago ang assault kay tua mn sa tv live mn kta mn sa hostage taker.

AFTER THE CRISIS
another thng is iyang paghandle sa situation na duna effect after sa crisis.diplomatic protocol wa sunda wa communication padng sa hk wa pa tubaga calls sa ilang lider.kana pd iyahang inappropriate demeanor sa prescon ug pag visit sa site cge lng smile.naa pa na iya cabinet member niingon na bakakon si Tsang wa kuno nitawag.nya pagkomparar pa sa nahitabo sa russia arn ingn mas arang2x atoa.d man intawon na sakto sir mao perte kalagot sa taga hk na2.

Cant team leader or chief of police make that happen ? Like limit the coverage of media ?

@ UNREGISTERED ...

Thats for BEARISH post , not yours and even if it was for you , its my point that you missed .

@LDL5156 ...

WHo do you think would have done it better ? The EXPERTS right ? Now problem is , our " EXPERTS " are not competent so that means , time for REFRESHER COURSE .

@ REPTOID ...

It doesn't matter what he was actually doing. The fact that a head-of-state could not contact him gave the perception that he was in hiding. Politicians live life in the spotlight, it is a crucial element of their work. How a leader reacts under fire is most important, taking time out to have your response tailored by a bunch of advisers during such a critical international incident is like Nero playing the fiddle while Rome burned.

Swat made mistakes, serious mistakes. However what excuses can be offered for the dreadful mismanagement immediately following the tragedy? I don't blame Pnoy for the failures of SWAT. I do blame him for not intervening in the aftermath.

Bai .... why dont you check out countries that offer the best SWATS and has the most controversial crimes ever . Just because there is no word of the PRESIDENT equates that he is hiding and as per your explanation , doesnt matter what he was actually doing .

If that is the case .... wala na lang unta ga elect ug mayor of that city or town or ga appoint of chief of police if that is the case . Akong pangutana ... ok lets give in to the notion na sa chain of command ang bottomline is a commander in chief , you are basically saying na ni jump ka ug chain of command ?

Kung gi blame ni PNOY ang PGMA ADMIN , it is wrong but it is also wrong na i blame si PNOY .

Kahinumdom ka asa 9/11 ? It was mayor Giulani who runned the show , not then Pres. Bush .

[psyche54]

I though what happened years ago during a hostage drama in Pasay where both the hostage (a child) and the hostage taker end up dead due to indiscriminate firing....

Again, it was very poorly executed that end up an innocent child dead.

The scope during that time was that, a sharp shooter has a clear shot over the hostage taker, and when the surrounding policemen heard that gun shot, they all fired at the hostage taker and probably hitting the hostage...

The hostage victim died of multiple gun shot wounds... And I think, their chief of police was also relived from his job due to that incident...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

But then again they are the Police, our armed forces. They are supposed to be trained para di mahadlok inig rakrakan. Naa sila shield and vest. They should not "talaw" when under fire... at least mao na ako giexpect sa ila... I am a taxpayer and I'm the one paying for their training so I have the right to complain XD

Mao lage na sila man unta ang supposed to be experts so imagine na lang what the NOT SO EXPERTS would be doing . I am only reacting sa mga post about training in AIRSFOFT and ONLINE GAMES .

[pepponeskie]

matinga man lang sad ta kung si noy2x nalang gi basol sa tanan nga nahitabo adto...

murag sa akong tanaw, si noy2x ang angay mo train sa swat, cya ang mo command kung unsa ang buhaton, cya ang mo decide kung patyon or buhion si mendoza, cya ang makig negotiate sa hostage taker...He is not a jack of all trades...kung mao na, maau pa lang d i ug wala nang hire si noy2x ug mga general and other rank and file sa AFP.

[peewee_toot]

the philippines will never be united...

the case was just an isolated one...

pero damay ang tanan. hahaiz... maskin ang mga pinoy nga naa sa lain nasud piti pd. faet!

go for FEDERALISM!

[reptoid]

Kahinumdom ka asa 9/11 ? It was mayor Giulani who runned the show , not then Pres. Bush .

That's my point. Bush failed during a crisis and somebody else capitalized on the opportunity. Bush only revived his domestic popularity by launching operation shock & awe.... a massive firework display in the wrong country to convince the voters that he was winning the war on terror.

My personal feeling is that Pnoy kept out of things because he couldn't handle it. Relying on advisers is okay for long-term policy decisions, but for crisis management forget it. What is actually required in such instances is strong and decisive leadership.

[peewee_toot]

matinga man lang sad ta kung si noy2x nalang gi basol sa tanan nga nahitabo adto...

murag sa akong tanaw, si noy2x ang angay mo train sa swat, cya ang mo command kung unsa ang buhaton, cya ang mo decide kung patyon or buhion si mendoza, cya ang makig negotiate sa hostage taker...He is not a jack of all trades...kung mao na, maau pa lang d i ug wala nang hire si noy2x ug mga general and other rank and file sa AFP.

pila to ka hours nahitabo ang hostage taking sir? naa bay noy2x nga nakita or nadungog? wala!

sus! ambot lng og nganong pagka human nmn sa hostage drama ni gawas c noy2x. pa smile2x pa... faet!

[peewee_toot]

^^dili na kaduot sir. puro ra ba hangin ang sulod an ilang utok. hahaha.

[peewee_toot]

akong interpretasyon sa iyang gisulti in short:

"mahitabo na bisan asa, bisan kanus-a., so.. keber..."

sad jud!

hehehe. grabe nmn pd ng keber oi.