MERGED: Quirino Grandstand Hostage Crisis

[RMK711]

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We do have an identity now whether we like it or not, and that is called "incompetent and unreliable." The blame should fall squarely on the political elite who form our government. We are too proud of our democracy but it is not proving to be a good example to other nations. Chinese government might be secretly happy that our country made such a mess of this, that way they can tell their people that democracy is no good and that in a dictatorship, police are better trained and equipped. Is there any doubt that if this incident occurred in China, it would have been handled better? Watching the events unfold in the news was just too painful to watch, it was like watching children playing cops and robbers.

[blackheart73]

It is not a matter of being a PRO NOYNOY or ANTI NOYNOY .

DO you guys think naay laing better mahitabo if si ERAP or VILLAR ba ang nakadaog ?

@ REPTOID .... it is rong to say that finally he emerges from HIDING . Do you know that he is really hiding ?

Bottom line is , INCOMPETENCE lang jud ang training sa SWAT , no more and no less . They are not ready for real time events .

sir pnoy cudve done sumthing abt it directly by ordering a media blackout lyk gma did in her term.no doubt dako ta jd to difference sa outcome.iya pasumangil kay dpat jd dunay transparency again undeniable iya sayop adto.bsan unsang swat tngali sir d matago ang assault kay tua mn sa tv live mn kta mn sa hostage taker.

AFTER THE CRISIS
another thng is iyang paghandle sa situation na duna effect after sa crisis.diplomatic protocol wa sunda wa communication padng sa hk wa pa tubaga calls sa ilang lider.kana pd iyahang inappropriate demeanor sa prescon ug pag visit sa site cge lng smile.naa pa na iya cabinet member niingon na bakakon si Tsang wa kuno nitawag.nya pagkomparar pa sa nahitabo sa russia arn ingn mas arang2x atoa.d man intawon na sakto sir mao perte kalagot sa taga hk na2.

[unregistered]

^^^

That sounds more " UNFILIPINO " and interesteing .

The absence of CRAB MENTALITY !! Up for you !

Mao its hard for the FILIPINO PEOPLE to have its own identity because we tend to like better being NOT UNITED . We tend to come up lots of conspiracy theories , chismis , etc rather than coming up with a solution instead of being a problem .

Missing my point? Paki quote nalang

[jd_cellphone]

btaw sir kay i been playing counter strike since 2005 i think...unya maayo kaayo mi mo plano kung kanus a mi mo labay ug smoke ug flashbang kay ang importante kaayo ang element of surprise. apil mi competition gud maka place gud mi mao nag hunahuna ko ato kaha mga police noh ato paduwa on nato anah? whahhaha

bitaw bai..ang kulang sa ato mga police is POLICE IQ..ma relate lang nako sa BASKETBALL..naa mga player nga hingigo kaayo sa ring, 3points, free throw, mo drive, mo pasa, mo rebound...ngilngig jud kaayo...daghan kaayo na sa NBA...but kun anha na sa critical time og clutch time specially sa 4th quarter...sos! wala gyud ayo...so they need this BASKETBALL IQ....kay kun wala ang player ana...maylang sya sa pilmero....pareha ra sa mga police nato...labaw na sa ground commander nga ni resign na...mayrasad!....og pinaka labaw ato commander in chief...walay IQ? ahahaha...naa siguro but gamatoy...

[romantic_guy08]

That's why a handful of Filipinos continue to blame Noy because his government continue to blame others for their blunders instead of owning them and make concrete action to stem the problem.

In my opinion, the government was caught off guard when the hostage incident took place on Monday, because it is so busy chasing people who did not pay their taxes. And, the government's vow for full transparency had backfired that almost electrocute all of them.

I think that's their biggest problem, instead of accepting responsibility, they are trying to look for ways to always blame the previous administration. You are the president, the buck stops with you. And let's face it, there were a lot of things he could've done which he didn't, this added the frustration. The policemen that we're there wasn't really Manila's finest, where were the PNP's Special Action Force (SAF) who are more equipped and well trained to handle this situation? The president had that at his disposal, and knowing this could have grave diplomatic impact, he should've used the SAF.

I cannot help but agree with what GMA's spokespersos said when asked if they failed to equip and train the police force. She said that they were the same police before, the difference is just the one commanding. And having observed previous similar crises, they were handled much better. This just goes to show that there is a real lack of leadership in this administration. This could have proved Noynoy's doubters that he is capable of being the president, instead, it gave his detractors more reasons to question his capacity.

While I agree that we should work together and move-on, I also believe that this leadership should first accept their responsibility and shortcomings instead of passing on the blame. That has been the trademark of this administration, passing the blame whenever they find it convenient. How can we move forward with an attitude like that coming from the leadership? How can they expect people to trust them when they don't have a sense of responsibility.

There were a lot of lessons learned from this disaster, and I truly hope that Noynoy learned a thinkg or two about proper crisis management.

[real_matrix24]

Dli man ganeh kamao mo dokdok sa maso.... wahahhahahahaha... na sud pa jud sa bus ang maso... Gafataka lang lang... maypa manan-aw tag The Unit or Flashpoint anehhh....

[Romeojin]

we cant expect penoy to do something hes popularly known for doing nothing.

its not his job to do or order.. media blackout, crowd control, answering CE Tsang call or even calling him back asap, putting up a much more equip team, or placing a better team of negotiator, and why not hand him his demand (give his job back) and arrest mendoza after.

lets accept it his biggest mistake was.. nag-smile2x siya which infuriate the chinese.

lets not be crab and be united.. against chinese criticism and accept the shame.

[ldl5165]

It is not a matter of being a PRO NOYNOY or ANTI NOYNOY .

DO you guys think naay laing better mahitabo if si ERAP or VILLAR ba ang nakadaog ?

@ REPTOID .... it is rong to say that finally he emerges from HIDING . Do you know that he is really hiding ?

Bottom line is , INCOMPETENCE lang jud ang training sa SWAT , no more and no less . They are not ready for real time events .

Agree. Pero lesser ra unta ang effect if the gov't of pnoy took this very seriously. Created crisis management, handled well mendoza's demands, handled well mendoza's family, manage the international media as well as local, manage HK's Tsang, issue statements periodically - in other words, there should be somebody on top of the situation. None, none, it was NONE. Pnoy's men and himself came out after the bloody ending! so late, so late for a hero.....

HE let the "experts" handle the crisis! So what's the result now? Karon pa sila kabuang og handle sa consequences....

[masakiton]

dawata nalang nga ingon ana atong presidente.. wala man gali na siya achievement nga i panghambog sa 10years niya sa legislative... puro ra pud na siya comitee member dili leader... mao na karon.. maayong udto sa tanan

[Romeojin]

kung si GMA pa ron, ulan gyud ug criticisms. but she fair well during her time.

Minority solons praise GMA on hostage crisis handling - Yahoo! Philippines News

Quezon Province Rep. Danilo Suarez cited the better batting average of Arroyo and her team, noting several hostage and abduction cases happened during the last 9 years where there were minimal, if not no fatalities at all.