VATICAN Bank Investigated

[kit_cebu]

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i wonder how powerful is money to build a religion. why do you think that a religion can not stand or survive without money? grabe jud ni ang MONEY oi.

actually, and in reality, religion was meant to make money........ look around you........ new religion, new orders, new groups, new cr@p.......

di lang gyud sila kaapas sa negosyo sa "naka-una" anang negosyoha......

[peewee_toot]

didn't they know there are millions starving in africa?
didn't they know there are millions all over the world who have no food on their plates?
didn't they know there are people who can't afford hospitalization?
didn't they know there are children who can't eat 3x a day because they bar family planning laws?
didn't they know.......................................

why keep a huge amount of money when people are starving and they preach to give when they won't?

since miracles of bread loaf multiplication doesn't happen anymore these days, why not do it manually using their money?

super agree ko ani. igu-a oi!

[masterjanuarius]

didn't they know there are millions starving in africa?
didn't they know there are millions all over the world who have no food on their plates?
didn't they know there are people who can't afford hospitalization?
didn't they know there are children who can't eat 3x a day because they bar family planning laws?
didn't they know.......................................

why keep a huge amount of money when people are starving and they preach to give when they won't?

since miracles of bread loaf multiplication doesn't happen anymore these days, why not do it manually using their money?

Of course they know! Whether you like to hear it or not, the Church has been very much visible to reach out to these you have just enumerated ... and even more, which you do not know, bro. The Church help for these has always been that of a sustainable, enduring and sometimes even permanent while other NGO's are there only for a time duration! Now, if the Church do not have the money, saved in the bank, how can she send help immediately to those victims of calamities and even continue doing it long after all the other agencies are gone? Think about the famine of the SAHEL Region of Northern Africa, all the agencies have been gone .. the Church is still continuing to help feed those people, with priests and sisters at risk of being killed or kidnapped by brigands .. and yet, the Church continues to stay there! I think it is part of good administration to use the money for what it is intended, and the rest should be saved for the "rainy days".

The Vatican is an sovereign state, governed also also by its laws and constitutions even if its Head, the Pope, is also the spiritual head of the roman catholic church. Now, every sovereign state administers its finances and also has financial institutions like a Banking System. So what's the fuss bout the Vatican Bank?

Now, if the Italian Government is investigating on the alleged "money laundering", well and good. It is to bring out the truth about the money transaction involved. What is just amusing, I think, is how some pseudo-anti roman Catholics here in Istorya are already jumping on conclusions .. and I am hundred percent sure that if the results of the investigation would be contrary to what they believe, they will surely dismiss such as a farce!

[necrotic freak]

I thought your GOD can make miracles? why does HE need money? Why do HIS little fanatic Catholic Priests NEED MONEY?

They SHOULD rely on their GOD for anything they want, NOT MONEY right?

Pasabot, their fake, their corrupt and manipulative. PAKSIT nasad inyung relihiyon sa scandal. imagine a VATICAN BANK? OMG, they have their own BANK? wahahahahaha!

Yes they're fake. you happy now?

[kit_cebu]

Of course they know! Whether you like to hear it or not, the Church has been very much visible to reach out to these you have just enumerated ... and even more, which you do not know, bro. The Church help for these has always been that of a sustainable, enduring and sometimes even permanent while other NGO's are there only for a time duration! Now, if the Church do not have the money, saved in the bank, how can she send help immediately to those victims of calamities and even continue doing it long after all the other agencies are gone? Think about the famine of the SAHEL Region of Northern Africa, all the agencies have been gone .. the Church is still continuing to help feed those people, with priests and sisters at risk of being killed or kidnapped by brigands .. and yet, the Church continues to stay there! I think it is part of good administration to use the money for what it is intended, and the rest should be saved for the "rainy days".

funny....... i can only hear these happen on a weekend........ feeding program.....lugaw..........

anyway, good point there about "results of the investigation"..................

[peewee_toot]

^^hahaha. i was once a vlunteer sa among church. we actually do it every wednesday and saturday. and yes you are right... lugaw.

[kit_cebu]

"rainy days"

ang mga tawo tawn, rainy days lang pirmi.............

[enopian]

mao lang ni ako ma share guys kay murag nag over react na kaayo ang uban... please take time to read and reflect...

Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!
and
Let He Who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone

Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
--> This is the verse so many use to try to shame Christians for discerning poor behavior, ethics, morals, and values: the "judge not lest ye be judged" verse. This verse is not speaking to not judging at all -- it is speaking to not judging unfairly or any other cheap and selfish way.

Matt 7:2-5 "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged [if we judge with an evil heart or dark intent, His judgment of us will reflect it; if we judge nobly with honesty and justice, His judgment of us will reflect that, too], and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you [if we use extremes or exaggerations or other ignoble means, our judgment will reflect it and judging with fairness and compassion will garner likewise in His judgment of us]. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye [point out his sins, "minor" in Jesus' example here] and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye [our own sins, even and especially those we will not admit, magnified by our selective blindness]? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' [tell him of his "minor" sins] when all the time there is a plank in your own eye [that there are greater or the same sins in our own lives which we do nothing about or think we are above]? You hypocrite* [pointing out the sins of others while by pretense thinking of ourselves as above sin], first take the plank out of your own eye [sincerely ask the Lord for forgiveness and learn and live the Truth and Light by His Word], and then you will see clearly [be in a righteous position] to remove the speck from your brother's eye [to judge and to help him out of his bondage to sin]." At Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan, Jesus was talking to the multitudes gathered there after hearing of His message and of His healings to beseech them to not become like the pharisees and hypocrites who think they are above sin.

John 8:1-30 (New International Version)

John 8

1But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" 6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"

11"No one, sir," she said.
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
The Validity of Jesus' Testimony
12When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

13The Pharisees challenged him, "Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid."

14Jesus answered, "Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. 17In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid. 18I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me."

19Then they asked him, "Where is your father?"

"You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also." 20He spoke these words while teaching in the temple area near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his time had not yet come.

21Once more Jesus said to them, "I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come."

22This made the Jews ask, "Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, 'Where I go, you cannot come'?"

23But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be,[a] you will indeed die in your sins."

25"Who are you?" they asked.

"Just what I have been claiming all along," Jesus replied. 26"I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."

27They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father. 28So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am the one I claim to be and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me. 29The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him." 30Even as he spoke, many put their faith in him.

[AmorsoloX]

tanan outreach programs sa church kay financed thru "special donations"..

first move sa church kung naa sila activity himoon is mag-collect special donations..
di jud na mogamit ang simbahan own money nila to perform outreach programs..

[Tirong-say]

didn't they know there are millions starving in africa?
didn't they know there are millions all over the world who have no food on their plates?
didn't they know there are people who can't afford hospitalization?
didn't they know there are children who can't eat 3x a day because they bar family planning laws?
didn't they know.......................................

why keep a huge amount of money when people are starving and they preach to give when they won't?

since miracles of bread loaf multiplication doesn't happen anymore these days, why not do it manually using their money?

Unya unsa may imong gusto,
ang mga katoliko nay mosulbad sa global problems karon....hmmmm
hastang luoya na gud namo....
kung mao na kami na lang kaha modala sa tibuok kalibotan
wala man diay gamit ilang mga gobiyerno.