Nag apil2 na pod ang mga pari

[noel_llapa]

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Anyways , there are lots of factors to consider . Why would MTRCB and DSWD make a move when CBCP was successful in their demands , we never know . Para asa pa man ?

<<I didn't say that MTRCB and DSWD approved the commercial. I merely pointed out na wala silay imik against sa commercial so far. Na naunahan sila sa CBCP is a possibility I don't discount. But it's worth noting na that the government agencies made no comment against it. Abtik kaayo sila atong Jan-Jan issue, while they're strangely silent about this one. It's a likely possibility pud na basin ang ila first impression innocente ra jud na ad ni. But that's just speculation of course.

Unya bitaw if ever ang DSWD ni apil ... shagit sad mo ug where is the SEPARATION of the CHURCH and the STATE ?

<<Why would you assume na we'll cry out about the SCS? It would have nothing to do with the SCS kung DSWD ang ning-apil. Ang i-shagit namo most likely would be "Ka-OA aning mga tigulang gikan sa DSWD, papapapil tingale ni sila. mga way lingaw.">>

Anyhoo , every sector of the society are not perfect and that is no the CHURCH again but to some certain " sheperds daw " but that doesnt stop them implementing the MORAL TEACHINGS and it doesnt necessarily follow to be something RELIGIOUS in nature .

<<There's the rub. Kay not all people would agree na immoral ni na ad. In fact MANY people don't agree na immoral ni. And many people (including me, obviously) don't believe na moral authority ang kini na mga pari. Of course they are free to express their "moral" opinion and even demand the ad to be pulled out, it's a free country after all. But don't expect that they would get away with it without taking heated criticisms, the critics after all. are also free to voice out their disapproval. And one couldn't help but questions their priorities. Sa kadaghag kabuang sa TV, ila jud gi-single out ang McDo.>>

They are not experts on CHILD DEVELOPMENT and they dont have a CHILD of their own . True , but if you assume that people in the field of PSYCHOLOGY didnt make a move doesnt constitute that sayop ang gi buhat sa McDo advertising

<<I'm not assuming anything. I'm just saying na mas mutou pa ko sa mga psychologist ug parents kaysa mga pari when it comes to children.>>

Second , the PRIEST are more qualified than anyone else in regards to knowing what is FAMILY more than average people who think they are RESPONSIBLE PARENTS .

<<I beg to disagree. I spent almost 4 years in the seminary, and I have been surrounded by priests, nuns, religious brothers, and even bishops. I prayed with them, I dined with them, played with them, went to school with them, and I can safely say they don't have qualities that would make them more qualified than mothers and fathers when it comes to children. In fact, most of the clergy live sheltered existence, free from the cares and problems that the ordinary family constantly have to deal with. Their knowledge of childhood development is pretty bookish and "second hand," at times naive, at worst, completely detached from reality.>>

<<The reall essence here for me is , IT IS NOT RIGHT TO BE IN A BF-GF RELATIONSHIP AT A VERY YOUNG AGE ( no pun intended ) , THAT IS IF YOU ARE A MINOR .>>

That depends on how the BFGF relationship is portrayed by McDo. If it involved some petting and kissing and any of the things that we adults would normally associate with a BFGF relationship, then it should have been rightfully pulled out. But no, what was portrayed there was some cheesy lines, some fries-sharing, and holding hands. In short, close friendship. And we some parental advise, the ad would foster close friendship among kids. Nothing more, nothing less.>>

Mind you , you dont hear kids nowadays ask about where do the bees come from . My 8 year old niece knows what is *** and what contitutes if you have unprotected *** , unplanned *** etc .

<<Then good for the kid. She was educated well. And if her parents did their job as parents, then she would also know that such things are for adults only and a no-no for children. She would know what to avoid and when she does come of age, she would know how to deal with her sexuality. I don't see the problem there. Same with the McDo ad. If a child happens to already know about *** and has also seen the McDo ad, then it's up to the parents to connect the dots for them, to explain to them what to avoid and what to embrace in such a relationship/friendship. In any case, if a parent thinks that her child is to young to understand what's going on sa TV, then it's her job to explain to her what the child has seen, otherwise, ayaw na lang patan-awa ug TV altogether.>>

[ketllac]

Dr. Douglas A. Gentile, a developmental psychologist and assistant professor in Iowa State University’s Department of Psychology discusses how our concepts of normal behavior, our values, sense what is acceptable and unacceptable develops from our “spheres of influence”. First from Family, then community and the rest of society.

“The media influence us not just one-on-one when we watch them. They also influence us by influencing our families. They also influence us by influencing our communities. That’s one of the reasons it’s hard to tell if you’ve ever been affected because it’s not just a simple one-to-one relationship. You’re being influenced in multiple directions all at the same time,” Gentile said.

TV is not this passive device you sit your children in front of with no ill effects. Decades worth of research have shown the harmful effects of TV on your child’s development. Most child psychologists and child development experts recommend no TV whatsoever for a child before the age of 2 or 3. None. Yet a whopping 43 percent of parents plop their toddler down in front of the television set, apparently blind to the consequence of their actions according to John M Grohol PsyD.

Now lets ask ourselves based on Mcdo's commercial, is it appropriate or acceptable behavior to have a relationship at early age?

according to some logicians correlation kuno doesn't imply causation, but tagai ko ninyo lain nga experimental method nga mo conclude with certainty sa iyang study without using correlational method.

now kinsay nagkakita sa epekto sa media, ikaw nga nireklamo sa mga pari nga nag apil apil o ang mga pari?

now kung sayop ang tagai sad ko ug study nga walay epekto ang media bisan sa gamay'ng mensahe nga gihatag niini.

[hatred]

sagdai nalang na mga pari uy ana man jud na sila...

[Saickiek]

sagdai nalang na mga pari uy ana man jud na sila...

Mao mao, ang ato mabuhat ani kay ang Pagsabot rjud.HAHA

[windshock]

its getting hot in here, with no malice, the ad portrays to attract customers, it is just the human mind that thinks negatively. we are a dominant christian country, so the church exist to guide and sometimes misguide the people.Its just a matter of comprehension, chill out :P

[Romeojin]

No responsible parents would allow their kids at that age or even HS to have a BFGF relationships.

All i see are people defending the commercial and disregard the effect of the development of the child and social impact, how many kids will be influenced by this ad?

I think they should answer this question before posting here.
"Do i want my child to be in a relationship at this age?" i bet most of the answers are "NO" and please no more silly excuse like its innocent; its friendly; they are not taking it seriously; etc sometimes in life when they grow up a bit or in HS they will take it seriously.

this McDO ad is really cheap

[messy_meh]

No responsible parents would allow their kids at that age or even HS to have a BFGF relationships.

All i see are people defending the commercial and disregard the effect of the development of the child and social impact, how many kids will be influenced by this ad?

I think they should answer this question before posting here.
"Do i want my child to be in a relationship at this age?" i bet most of the answers are "NO" and please no more silly excuse like its innocent; its friendly; they are not taking it seriously; etc sometimes in life when they grow up a bit or in HS they will take it seriously.

this McDO ad is really cheap

there's nothing wrong with the ad when regards to the purpose of MCDO to persuade buyers.. only one thing i saw didnt fit, it's the concept of BFGF for the youngsters..

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

I didn't say that MTRCB and DSWD approved the commercial. I merely pointed out na wala silay imik against sa commercial so far. Na naunahan sila sa CBCP is a possibility I don't discount. But it's worth noting na that the government agencies made no comment against it. Abtik kaayo sila atong Jan-Jan issue, while they're strangely silent about this one. It's a likely possibility pud na basin ang ila first impression innocente ra jud na ad ni. But that's just speculation of course.

I know you didnt say that , that was only my assumptions. All we can do is speculate lang jud . Abtik kaayo sila atong jan-Jan na issue because lahi man to na issue . Mind you , ang issue ato is dili si JANJAN baya , si WILLIE and ang bata ang gi himo na tool aron maduso si Willie ato .

Why would you assume na we'll cry out about the SCS? It would have nothing to do with the SCS kung DSWD ang ning-apil. Ang i-shagit namo most likely would be "Ka-OA aning mga tigulang gikan sa DSWD, papapapil tingale ni sila. mga way lingaw."

Most likely will constitute another speculation also because not all people in the DSWD are tigulang . That is in reference on to why the church also reminds about the evil deeds and corruption of our public servants sama sa kadaghang panghitabo na and people tend to relate it to SSC when in fact its all about morality lang .

There's the rub. Kay not all people would agree na immoral ni na ad. In fact MANY people don't agree na immoral ni. And many people (including me, obviously) don't believe na moral authority ang kini na mga pari. Of course they are free to express their "moral" opinion and even demand the ad to be pulled out, it's a free country after all. But don't expect that they would get away with it without taking heated criticisms, the critics after all. are also free to voice out their disapproval. And one couldn't help but questions their priorities. Sa kadaghag kabuang sa TV, ila jud gi-single out ang McDo.

Nobody said that it is IMMORAL ang ad . Its just that its not APPROPRIATE because the moment mo level up na , IMMORAL ang bagsakan ana . Just like ratings in movies , importante kaayo ni because based on studies before on human behaviours , PORNOGRAPHY and related mediums to it are factors or prerequisites why ang tao maka commit ug sexual acts and worst pa rape . If you think they singled out McDo , kinsa pa ang laing kabuang sa TV na makita na gi dedma sa simbahan ? Critics are here to exist to counter balance but can only do so much . Suma unsa kadaghan ug kapila gi criticize ang atong presidente ? But where is he now ? He is still our leader no matter what . Dili man gyud na mawala ang opposing forces , yin and yang , negative and posite etc .

Just wondering , the MANY PEOPLE you are talking about are the people who subscribed here in the thread ?

'm not assuming anything. I'm just saying na mas mutou pa ko sa mga psychologist ug parents kaysa mga pari when it comes to children.

No doubt about that . But you have to remember also that THEORY is nothing if there is no EXPERIENCE . I didnt say na experience ha kay naay ubang pari naay anak jud but when handling its flock ang akong gipasabot hehehe .

I beg to disagree. I spent almost 4 years in the seminary, and I have been surrounded by priests, nuns, religious brothers, and even bishops. I prayed with them, I dined with them, played with them, went to school with them, and I can safely say they don't have qualities that would make them more qualified than mothers and fathers when it comes to children. In fact, most of the clergy live sheltered existence, free from the cares and problems that the ordinary family constantly have to deal with. Their knowledge of childhood development is pretty bookish and "second hand," at times naive, at worst, completely detached from reality.

That is because you are comparing them as BIOLOGICAL PARENTS , dili man intawn na mao ang issue diri but the instilling in our minds what are right and what are wrong . Simple ra man jud kaayo and this doesnt have to be religious in nature , YES or NO ra jud . IS IT OK FOR UNDERAGE PEOPLE TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP IN A BF-GF NATURE ?

That depends on how the BFGF relationship is portrayed by McDo. If it involved some petting and kissing and any of the things that we adults would normally associate with a BFGF relationship, then it should have been rightfully pulled out. But no, what was portrayed there was some cheesy lines, some fries-sharing, and holding hands. In short, close friendship. And we some parental advise, the ad would foster close friendship among kids. Nothing more, nothing less.

As a responsible and in the right mind of a parent you are , like I said your 6 year odl kid is so lucky to have you but you dont represent the whole population of GOOD PARENTS . Kana imohang statement are only SPECULATIONS also , tuod anak na nimo but you dont know everything what runs in the mind even of your own child , much more sa rest of the kids you dont know . Obviously pod , alangan man ug ipakita sa McDo ang something na R18 ini nature , unsa ang point pa ?

Then good for the kid. She was educated well. And if her parents did their job as parents, then she would also know that such things are for adults only and a no-no for children. She would know what to avoid and when she does come of age, she would know how to deal with her sexuality. I don't see the problem there. Same with the McDo ad. If a child happens to already know about *** and has also seen the McDo ad, then it's up to the parents to connect the dots for them, to explain to them what to avoid and what to embrace in such a relationship/friendship. In any case, if a parent thinks that her child is to young to understand what's going on sa TV, then it's her job to explain to her what the child has seen, otherwise, ayaw na lang patan-awa ug TV altogether.

What is the point if we tend to give advice to our children and they always see it in the TV na its ok because McDo is doing it also or should I say emphasizing that BF-GF is ok at that young age . Very literal lang kaayo but the effects are a total headache . Mind you , dili ang parents ang gi dani ani but ang mga bata . They will use the children to entice the adults to eat at McDonalds and that is the whole point of MARKETING STATEGY nila unknowingly lang na dili diay appropriate .

All I can say , my opinion and your opinion could meet halfway but as firm as my point of views na di siya appropriate and yours are ok lang and doesnt do any harm is ok . Exchange of ideas , nice discussion and most of all walay init . mao unta ni angay sundon sa uban . Anyways ... wala man ta mahimo gyud , naay bati sa pari but naa man pod nindot , successful sila sa campaign nila and dili malikayan naay critics so let it be . Thank you for that .

[carbrill]

ok ra man ang commercial nila... basn ang moral ra sa mga bata ilang gipang tan aw... opinion ra sad man na sa mga pari then ning sunod lang pd ang mcdo...

[sui.caedere]

ka cute baya sa commercial oi.. naunsa man na sila...tsk tsk