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    Quote Originally Posted by honey89 View Post
    About questioning, of course, I question things. I cried over things, simply because some truths hurt, but in the end, it's important for me to stand to something I could definitely believe in, and I prefer to believe in God. I guess personal faith is just too difficult to explain to someone who doesn't see you on the same level.
    Oo sis, lisud jud i-explain ang faith sa ubang tao kay basically personal man jud kaayo ang faith. Decision siya nga you have to make on your own. So para nako helpful if ato i-distinguish ang "knowing our faith to be true" from "showing our faith to be true." The Holy Spirit touches us on a personal level that God exists, so we can know nga tinuod ato faith on a personal level. To show to others that our faith is true is another matter, og nag-require na nga we use reason, logic og evidence to show to others nga reasonable ang pag-tuo og Ginoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godlessandfree View Post
    sa mga believers, Christians nalang to be specific kay im sure mao nay uso dri hehehe, ask lang unta ko ba, out of curiosity lang (and boredom hehe):

    if you believe in god, then you must also believe in the devil or satan diba? ask lang ta ko ba nga if you really believe that an evil entity exists, for example si satan na inyu gi tawag ug "father of all lies",
    what makes you believe without a shadow of doubt that the bible is god's word? shouldn't you even be more skeptical if mu tuo mu nga naay yawa?

    think of it this way, what if there were 2 gods, c good god ug si bad god... now what if, what if lang gyud, ang evil god diay nag suwat ug book to deceive people into thinking that he is the good god, or the only god? nya ang katung good god, is just waiting for you to figure it all out for yourself... possible man gyud na nga scenario dba? nag wonder lang gyud ko, why a believer who believes demons exist, would not think to question everything before he believes something is true... dba sakto man sad, if mu tuo mo naay devil, shouldnt you be even more skeptical than the average skeptic? cz who knows, what if the bible was just another way to deceive people dba? how will you know or how can you be so sure, if you do not bother reading it from an outside perspective and question everything written in that book?

    general wonderment lang gyud ning ako... aw and ayaw lang sad ko tubaga ug "because the bible tells me so" ha.. hehe honest answer lang ta aku hangyu, based on WHAT YOU THINK jd ba.

    so again, the question is, "why do you believe in the bible, and what makes you think its true? (and if pwede, what makes you think that what you think is true?)"

    -bawal ang 'because the bible tells me so' nga reason ha. hehe pls do not prove the bible using the bible, because unreasonable jd kaayu na. and last pa jd diay, pls lang do not quote scripture. personal answer lang ako gi pangayo based on WHAT YOU REALLY THINK, not what you have been taught or told to think. fair enough? hehe

    aw, if "faith" ra inyung reason pwde e justify unsa jud inyung pasabut sa faith. kanang inyu2 gyd na explanation ha. (likay sa ta sa dictionary f pwede). if mahimo likay nlang gyud ta ani nga answer. kay mo liko naman gud nya kbalo namo, naa jd bya uban mo ti-ti jd ug lalis dri. hehe likay lang ta ani f pwede.

    wala ko nangitag sumthing na atung ma lalisan nasad ha, curious lang gyd ko nganu mu tuo mo diritso without questioning anything...while also believing nga naay Satan nga cgeg deceive sa world.

    bakit nganu why? hehehe

    wa ta kbaw, mao nani ang higayon ninyu nga inyu ko ma convince. bira dayun. ahehehe

    walay mangaway ha.. nangutana raba kog tarung. LOL =p

    reminder: answers should be about what you think ha. not what youve been taught or told to think. intellectual honesty lang ba.. if wala moy sure nganu, ok rasad na nako na answer. kasabut ra jd ko ana. basta honest answer lang pasar na. hehehe wa ta kbaw ig abut ninyu sa langit, mao ni question usa mo maka sulod ug heaven. haha.

    sa mga unbeliever, hilom sa mo ha. haha. lets be civilized animals 4 now. lolz


    cge mga believer, go...

    samtang ga amatz pako.. HAHA

    try to watch this link mga bro?YouTube - THE AMAZING FIRST VERSE OF THE BIBLE - You MUST see this film!

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    Para sa mga Atheist >>> Every Creature living in this world have its own purpose and use, now for the Atheist ilaha sab ni nga purpose nga dili mo tuo ug Ginoo ang ilang use kay aron pag test sa mga believer kung dili ba ma twist ilang belief about God! Am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    Para sa mga Atheist >>> Every Creature living in this world have its own purpose and use, now for the Atheist ilaha sab ni nga purpose nga dili mo tuo ug Ginoo ang ilang use kay aron pag test sa mga believer kung dili ba ma twist ilang belief about God! Am I right?

    why would an atheist bother testing the believer?

    imo ra na interpretation bro.. most atheists don't like to bother with some believers because they are already bothersome..

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    Para nako bro GodlessandFree, Gihimo sab ka sa Ginoo nga ingon ana ka miserable imong life.... Ang tawo nga dili mo tuo ug Ginoo Miserable ang kinabuhi.....IT'S YOUR CHOICE sama ra gud sa BAYOT UG TUMBOY ang BAYOT LAKE JUD NA SIYA ANG TUMBOY BAE JUD NA SIYA, ANG ATHEIST HINIMO UNTA SA GINOO APAN DILI MO TUO UG GINOO.... INGON ANI RANA KA simple ANG FAITH DILI MAWALA SA TAWO ANG TAWO LANG ANG DILI GUSTO SA "FAITH IN GOD" WALA TAY MAHIMS ATHEIST MAN IMONG CHOICE so be it nalang....

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    Red face Bro

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    why would an atheist bother testing the believer?

    imo ra na interpretation bro.. most atheists don't like to bother with some believers because they are already bothersome..
    Naa nasad ning wala sa TONO Ai....

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    No comment ko nimo bluedes oi k mura man ka oil, ako tubig hehehehe.dli ta magka takdo.. bisan unsa nga aspeto, pili lang kung dili ka sa oil, pwede ka sa tubig.

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    @bluedes Your posts doesnt seem relevant on what you had portrayed on your comments...you make a thousands of posts but not vital as it looks.. sayang I thought you are great but dili man diay...

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    I suggest ang TS mo siminar ani ug tarong haron makasabot gyud,,ato mag pa wali sa mga Gitugyanan sa Ginoo nga maoy mag wali,,kay kng kita kita lng, and ako for example ang akong ma sulti kay summary naman lng,,mag kasayup pa unya ug interpret, inwhich mao ni cause nag ka tibula-ag ang mga daghan nga christians. We believe because we have reasons not because we have proof, How could one show a proof now what happens thousands or millions of year ago,, even science gani bana bana and computation nalang ang ilaha, sa catholics living withness gyud, although patay nani sila karon kay sauna rabaya too.

    Kanang style ni TS nga mangayo ug why we think mao na or mao ni? Mag katag lng agi ana,,kinsa gud nga tawo ang expert ron sa mga nahitabo ago nga without using as reference the teaching of the old or our ancestors.,,,,unsa ka nag bana bana sa panahon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teban2006 View Post
    I suggest ang TS mo siminar ani ug tarong haron makasabot gyud,,ato mag pa wali sa mga Gitugyanan sa Ginoo nga maoy mag wali,,kay kng kita kita lng, and ako for example ang akong ma sulti kay summary naman lng,,mag kasayup pa unya ug interpret, inwhich mao ni cause nag ka tibula-ag ang mga daghan nga christians. We believe because we have reasons not because we have proof, How could one show a proof now what happens thousands or millions of year ago,, even science gani bana bana and computation nalang ang ilaha, sa catholics living withness gyud, although patay nani sila karon kay sauna rabaya too.

    Kanang style ni TS nga mangayo ug why we think mao na or mao ni? Mag katag lng agi ana,,kinsa gud nga tawo ang expert ron sa mga nahitabo ago nga without using as reference the teaching of the old or our ancestors.,,,,unsa ka nag bana bana sa panahon?
    Agree ko nimo ana bro, since we are "just now" think lang sad ta ug sakto oi dili lang magpataka ug "STORY TELLING" ug INVENTING....

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