Does a soul or spirit reside in the flesh?

[RolandBarroJr]

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People don't believe God because they don't see God. People don't believe soul because they don't see soul. How can you see your chin when you don't a mirror or somebody that would tell you have one. Ahhah! How about using your hands. Indeed, when you start using your hands and start scanning the Bible about God's absolute truth. Maybe you will see who you are and where you go.

I didn't mean to criticize or malign anybody. I am just telling the truth that I know. You see freedom is the most important thing in life. You are free to believe and not to believe. It's your choice. I am not responsible on your decisions. In the end it would be you and your God will face each other "Mano Mano". When that time comes it would be too late.

The truth of God's Holy Word will set you free. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved (period) no more no less. This is the pure Gospel no additions and no subtractions.

IDEAS?!? Do you think this is my idea? You didn't even know in the First Place. Why are you born? Why are you still alive? What is the purpose of your existence. YOU ARE HERE TO RESOLVE THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE CALLED THE ANGELIC CONFLICT. And you can fight in either two sides no both but either. God's Side or Satan's Side? On whose side are you.

PSYCHE?!? You might have an obscure definition about the word. You see the world's definition of phyche confused you.

[miyay]

IDEAS?!? Do you think this is my idea? You didn't even know in the First Place. Why are you born? Why are you still alive? What is the purpose of your existence. YOU ARE HERE TO RESOLVE THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE CALLED THE ANGELIC CONFLICT. And you can fight in either two sides no both but either. God's Side or Satan's Side? On whose side are you.

pwede observer/watcher nalang?

[grovestreet]

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IDEAS?!? Do you think this is my idea? You didn't even know in the First Place. Why are you born? Why are you still alive? What is the purpose of your existence. YOU ARE HERE TO RESOLVE THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE CALLED THE ANGELIC CONFLICT. And you can fight in either two sides no both but either. God's Side or Satan's Side? On whose side are you.

PSYCHE?!? You might have an obscure definition about the word. You see the world's definition of phyche confused you.

again, you're thinking in terms of duality. Not everything is black and white.

pero back to topic...

i would use the analogy of the term "house" and "home"...

a house is something physical , therefore most probably its similar to the "body".

a home is an abstract idea, similar to the word "soul" or "spirit".

hehe pero i'm not sure.

[Lovely Charm]

People don't believe God because they don't see God. People don't believe soul because they don't see soul. How can you see your chin when you don't a mirror or somebody that would tell you have one. Ahhah! How about using your hands. Indeed, when you start using your hands and start scanning the Bible about God's absolute truth. Maybe you will see who you are and where you go.

I didn't mean to criticize or malign anybody. I am just telling the truth that I know. You see freedom is the most important thing in life. You are free to believe and not to believe. It's your choice. I am not responsible on your decisions. In the end it would be you and your God will face each other "Mano Mano". When that time comes it would be too late.

The truth of God's Holy Word will set you free. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved (period) no more no less. This is the pure Gospel no additions and no subtractions.

IDEAS?!? Do you think this is my idea? You didn't even know in the First Place. Why are you born? Why are you still alive? What is the purpose of your existence. YOU ARE HERE TO RESOLVE THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE CALLED THE ANGELIC CONFLICT. And you can fight in either two sides no both but either. God's Side or Satan's Side? On whose side are you.

PSYCHE?!? You might have an obscure definition about the word. You see the world's definition of phyche confused you.

Sir naman, are you sure about this claim "I am telling the truth that i know"
Its so simple, what you know is what you read in the bible,,,which by the way,,judging from your understanding its verbatim reading.

& heres another toddlers concept you have as a result of literal reading=
" You are here to resolve the spiritual battle called the angelic conflict. And you can fight in neither two sides no both but either. Gods side or satans side" Toink what is this ang Panday ni fernando po jr.?

ha,ha,ha,haler, sir di na po stone age,,people now think for themselves,,,and this evangelic tactics are only effective to those who are comfortable w/ accepting words w/o questioning

Honestly sir, i have nothing against your "mental toy" , you believe in god or not,,fine whatever,,what im so against of is what the_child was saying- "People who are so full of themselves"

Well as for me- people who are so paranoid & fanatic about this & that, specially about god & soul & salvation as if they just had a coffee w/ god to make such an outrageous delusional claim.

you want to learn the art of presenting ideas w/o appearing a desperate salesman?
observe how Mr. Josephdc writes, his a catholic boy(church of w/c i detest) but his so cool & tactful, a good example of a true christian,,i dont notice any air of "holier than thou, self righteousness" w/ this guy.

Oh really the worlds definition of PSYCHE confused me?
aber kindly give me a Gods or Jesus definition of PSYCHE,,,FOR SURE HEAVENS DEFINITION YAN

[Lovely Charm]

again, you're thinking in terms of duality. Not everything is black and white.

pero back to topic...

i would use the analogy of the term "house" and "home"...

a house is something physical , therefore most probably its similar to the "body".

a home is an abstract idea, similar to the word "soul" or "spirit".

hehe pero i'm not sure.

i kind of agree w/ you sir, to play around w/ words, yes the soul is subjective like a "home"
in the phenomenal world it cannot be appreciated in its own substance but in relation to something,,a vehicle to express,,now as to whether it exist if the body expires,,that remains to be seen

[RolandBarroJr]

i kind of agree w/ you sir, to play around w/ words, yes the soul is subjective like a "home"
in the phenomenal world it cannot be appreciated in its own substance but in relation to something,,a vehicle to express,,now as to whether it exist if the body expires,,that remains to be seen
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Way to go, LC! You're in it. Let's just fine tune some information to make it clearer. You see we have Three Systems of Human Perception known to us being functioning in either, both or even in the three of them namely EMPIRICISM, RATIONALISM, and FAITH but none of any human being with a normally functional mind can claim that have at least one.

Now to the brief definitions;
Perception is the ability to apprehend things either by response or reaction.

EMPIRICISM is a kind of human perception that relies on at least one of the five senses we have (SMELL, TASTE, VISION (SEEING), FELL (TOUCH), HEARING) in order to respond or react on certain phenomenon. We use this almost everytime we come to our consciousness in the any part of our waking day.

RATIONALISM then is the kind of human perception that relies on facts and/or logical evidence in order to respond or react on certain phenomenon. Our education systems often requires us to use this.

FAITH now is the kind of human perception that relies on the veracity or the trustworthiness of the object. We exercise this even as early as during our "suckling" toddler days namely when Mom gives us food we take it because she is trustworthy enough that she will not poison us with. Also that during our toddler education we are told by mom that there is a place full of ice called the North Pole we believe that because the mom is trustworthy enough that she will not misinform us even though we have not seen the place yet.

If you want to see SOUL you cannot. Yet Faith can explain it even if it is not seen. The Bible says "NOW FAITH IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN" Hebrews 11:1

Faith then is the most fundamental human perspective we have used and exercised and our most vital important tool in understanding Spiritual Phenomena NOT BECAUSE I AM TRUSTWORTHY ENOUGH, BUT BECAUSE GOD IS TRUSTWORHTY AND HIS TRUTH (BIBLE) IS TRUSTWORTHY ENOUGH.

FAITH is also a form of exact science. The only difference is that the previous two used physical circumstances and phenomena as specimens yet the latter uses things cannot be seen but can be explain. The first two uses books (science, mathematics, etc) the latter uses a Book (The Bible).

If you take it from me, I might misinform you. But this is not about me, it's about Him who created the whole world around us and gives life to you and me. If you are a believer, let the Holy Spirit confirm this truth into your heart (mind). And if your are not the only system of perception left for you to exercise is FAITH since the first two cannot be applicable. And it's a matter of choice, whether you believe it or not. IF YOU BELIEVE IT YOU EXERCISE FAITH.

[Lovely Charm]

i kind of agree w/ you sir, to play around w/ words, yes the soul is subjective like a "home"
in the phenomenal world it cannot be appreciated in its own substance but in relation to something,,a vehicle to express,,now as to whether it exist if the body expires,,that remains to be seen
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Way to go, LC! You're in it. Let's just fine tune some information to make it clearer. You see we have Three Systems of Human Perception known to us being functioning in either, both or even in the three of them namely EMPIRICISM, RATIONALISM, and FAITH but none of any human being with a normally functional mind can claim that have at least one.

Now to the brief definitions;
Perception is the ability to apprehend things either by response or reaction.

EMPIRICISM is a kind of human perception that relies on at least one of the five senses we have (SMELL, TASTE, VISION (SEEING), FELL (TOUCH), HEARING) in order to respond or react on certain phenomenon. We use this almost everytime we come to our consciousness in the any part of our waking day.

RATIONALISM then is the kind of human perception that relies on facts and/or logical evidence in order to respond or react on certain phenomenon. Our education systems often requires us to use this.

FAITH now is the kind of human perception that relies on the veracity or the trustworthiness of the object. We exercise this even as early as during our "suckling" toddler days namely when Mom gives us food we take it because she is trustworthy enough that she will not poison us with. Also that during our toddler education we are told by mom that there is a place full of ice called the North Pole we believe that because the mom is trustworthy enough that she will not misinform us even though we have not seen the place yet.

If you want to see SOUL you cannot. Yet Faith can explain it even if it is not seen. The Bible says "NOW FAITH IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN" Hebrews 11:1

Faith then is the most fundamental human perspective we have used and exercised and our most vital important tool in understanding Spiritual Phenomena NOT BECAUSE I AM TRUSTWORTHY ENOUGH, BUT BECAUSE GOD IS TRUSTWORHTY AND HIS TRUTH (BIBLE) IS TRUSTWORTHY ENOUGH.

FAITH is also a form of exact science. The only difference is that the previous two used physical circumstances and phenomena as specimens yet the latter uses things cannot be seen but can be explain. The first two uses books (science, mathematics, etc) the latter uses a Book (The Bible).

If you take it from me, I might misinform you. But this is not about me, it's about Him who created the whole world around us and gives life to you and me. If you are a believer, let the Holy Spirit confirm this truth into your heart (mind). And if your are not the only system of perception left for you to exercise is FAITH since the first two cannot be applicable. And it's a matter of choice, whether you believe it or not. IF YOU BELIEVE IT YOU EXERCISE FAITH.

Sir the above words before it landed sa FAITH thing is my school of thought so pls dont bother to remind me, might only find inconsistencies.

Sir nalito ako sayo,,,sige na nga FAITH IS SCIENCE nalang, grabe oi, if this a joke, di kana nakakatawa ha
And its not about you its about him,god,holy spirit
Sir its all about you, trust me, you just find a good weapon (religion) to announce your need to be needed,,,dont worry its a common lot to all of us.

im not rooting out faith sir,,faith will always be there,,,
tinamad ako sayo sir,,,

eto nalang since you claim too much about god, tanungin nalang kita:

1. Where is god, omnipresent daw sya? present everywhere?
2. does god has a form po?
3 Do we really take it literally the storey of the garden of eden? yung talking snake to-too yun?
3. And is it really true that women came out from the ribs of men, if god is all knowing why sa ribs
po? why not sa kilikili,,sa stomach or sa anus? whats w/ the ribs?
3. Male or female si god?
4. Which is proper to you- you know god? or you believe in god?
5. If we are made in the image & likeness of god, does it follow that god is idiot for making idiot
people?
6. And is it possible that the bible is an art of telling stories, allegories & not meant to be taken
literally?

[RolandBarroJr]

1. Sir its all about you, trust me, you just find a good weapon (religion)

- My reply: RELIGION is Satan's greatest weapon why TRUTH has watered down nowadays. No wonder why the world is in such a mess today. People think it's all about religion. LC, if this all about religion, like you... I will quit. You see religion is none sense. Because of religion, Christians are separated. Due to religion, the ABSOLUTE TRUTH of God's Word is fading away. Salvation by grace has turned to be legalistic in nature - where there is no salvation anymore. Due to religion, You and many others who claim there is no God, has broken down to almost nothing to do with God. Because of it, legalism and self-righteousness came to existence. Do you believe God wants that. But He allowed it. FREEDOM (VOLITION) is the issue - the primary means of resolving the Spiritual Battle called the angelic conflict.

2. to announce your need to be needed,,,dont worry its a common lot to all of us.

- My Reply: need?!? what need?!?. Are you talking about money?!? forget it. I am completely provided by Him in his grace. And I am satisfied. To the needed?!? Maybe needy. The first thing man needs is God and Jesus Christ who is the only way to God.

3. To your original question:
- 1. Where is god, omnipresent daw sya? present everywhere?
My reply: My direct answer is YES. Do you believe in the Bible? Because if you don't, I cannot answer to you any further about this for the fact is that there is no other textbook we can find to answer this specific query.

- 2. does god has a form po?
My reply: God Who? There are three Persons in the Godhead. The Person who has a form(or has taken a form of a man or became man) , can be seen and can be touched is Jesus Christ. ANSWER THE HIGHLIGHTED QUESTION ABOVE AND I CAN ANSWER TO YOU MORE ABOUT THIS.

- 3. Do we really take it literally the storey of the garden of eden? yung talking snake to-too yun?
My Reply:YES. Based on God's Holy, Inerrant and Infallible Word.

- 4. And is it really true that women came out from the ribs of men, if god is all knowing why sa ribs
po? why not sa kilikili,,sa stomach or sa anus? whats w/ the ribs?
My Reply: Only a rib and not men. Since God made only one man in His own image and His own likeness - ADAM and a rib was extracted from him and formed it into another person called WOMAN because she taken out from a man. That is why I can say that He will be addressed in pronouns HE, HIM, HIMSELF as is to refer masculine gender. To the highlighted ridiculous question, Why? It is His own prerogative (HE IS Souveriegn ).

- 5. Male or female si god?
My Reply: God in His eternal estate, is a spirit. Therefore he cannot be male or female. But the above reply will take care of this.

- 6. Which is proper to you- you know god? or you believe in god?
My Reply: Believe that there is God first, then believe that He is God, then know Him would be the best thing to do after the first two is met.

- 7. If we are made in the image & likeness of god, does it follow that god is idiot for making idiot
people?
My Reply: My highlighted reply in the #4 question will take care of this although I will reiterate it again that when we believe that we are created by God in His own image and likeness is erroneous, and we are misinformed the bible clearly states that after the fall of Adam all the next human beings are now addressed as "in his (Adam's fallen) image and in his (Adam's fallen) likeness" that's why idiots live now.

- 6. And is it possible that the bible is an art of telling stories, allegories & not meant to be taken
literally?
My Reply: Stories found in the Bible are not just stories that are told in the ancients as legends of some sort. Study Contemporary History and you will find it.
Biblical Hermeneutics (the science of bible interpretation) comes states in this way "if it literal interpretation fails we will come to the figurative which is also called allegory.

LC, and you others out here. I challenge you to think! Idle minds are basically the best place for Satan to throw his lies and errors. THINK! And if you have more questions subscribe to the thread that I have posted. Here is the address -

https://www.istorya.net/forums/spirit...ml#post5546533

LET THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH OF THE WORD OF GOD PREVAILS. To Him be all the Glory and Honor. May God bless you.

[RolandBarroJr]

brownprose? Where are you buddy? You started all of this. Don't just set there and watch how people get bugged out as to What in the World?!? kind of stuff.

[Malic]

Is it the Air or its just me?