From Dust to Man: A Scientific Proof

[lomhanz]

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dili kaayo ko sure ani, pero sure ko ani ai...

From MAN to DUST...

[dartzed]

hehehe DUST to MAN mg2x2 man ko ani; element to man nua...
well its the same rman dai japon..

hehehe

[jntio]

man-dust gyd ang pna ka sure

[aubrey_pearl]

Another case of faulty "literalization" and faulty association of science to conveniently support a faulty theology.

The seemingly "scientific" way of explaining the dust-to-man dogma is of course not surprising. How else would a typical creationist explain it but associate it with a scientific data to make it appear as a valid and solid argument that man was made out of dust.

For an ordinary Joe, he would easily be enamored by such mixture of "scientific eloquence" such as below:

What are the scientific proof that man’s body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earth’s crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.

If you're knowledge of science is limited, like most of us, we will be easily held captive and fall into accepting an elitist doctrine. And I take no exception to the above-quoted excerpt of Eli Soriano's blog which is just among a few good examples of a widely accepted scientific data or human Chemistry taken out of context.

Obviously, the earth is generally organic -- this is basic Chemistry or Chemistry 101. Don't you know that animals and other lower life forms are also composed of the very same basic elements man is also made of? Primates for example have the same chemical composition as man yet you will read in the Bible that primates were not made out of dust?!!!

The same goes (chemical make-up) for the elephants, lions, cows and other mammals and such other animals and plants except they weren't formed out of dust as you read them in the Bible. I wonder if Eli Soriano can make up another "scientific connection" why man had to be (made out of dust) only to find himself that he was made of the same banana as the animals Hmmmm...

Further, if you're going to look at it or literally interpret the Bible, it would appear that God is unfair that he made man out of dust yet all other life forms that he created were formed out of a simple fiat like what you read in Gen1:24 "Let the earth bring forth living creatures of every kind: cattle and creeping things and wild animals of the earth of every kind." One can't help but ask why God did not make man in the same fashion as he did to the rest of his other creations.

Haaay, literalism...<sigh>

Hahahaha, target kaau oiz. to-o jud ko ani. good post sir brownprose!

[YJOB]

i'm just wondering if brod eli is happy about istorya.net being one of the mediums where his doctrines can be posted OR maybe he said, "tama na yan cruman, mga gago yang mga membro ng istorya, mga ulol at puro tarantado, hindi natin kaya yan pabayaan mo na masunog sa imperno"

[rcruman]

i'm just wondering if brod eli is happy about istorya.net being one of the mediums where his doctrines can be posted OR maybe he said, "tama na yan cruman, mga gago yang mga membro ng istorya, mga ulol at puro tarantado, hindi natin kaya yan pabayaan mo na masunog sa imperno"

really? ngilngiga gud nimo ang naa sa imo hunahuna imo man ipasa kang bro Eli.
Kanus-a gud ka kadungog nga muingon si Bro. Eli nga maimpierno ang kaistorya niya?
Bro ang naa sa imo hunahuna imoha nalang ayaw pangangin og laing tawo.
Dili si Bro.Eli ang Malipay bro kay asta siya walay pahuway sa pagsangyaw.
Sugo sa Ginoo nga isangyaw ang doctrina or maayong balita so ang malipay ang Ginoo.

Peace!

[lomhanz]

nay, nag inoplok nasad ug tinubagan ai.. mangutana ko nimo rcruman, nangangin diay na si YJOB? unsa man diay nang "i',m just wondering" sa inyo? sus kamabaw gyud lagi ug sinabtan..hahay, dili nalang ko mag tell. klaro kaayo rcruman ai nga gisakitan ka anang storyaha kay hinanggaw ra gyud nang kang YJOB pero ang imong tubag?, sus, maayong pagkasangyaw!

[dartzed]

really? ngilngiga gud nimo ang naa sa imo hunahuna imo man ipasa kang bro Eli.
Kanus-a gud ka kadungog nga muingon si Bro. Eli nga maimpierno ang kaistorya niya?
Bro ang naa sa imo hunahuna imoha nalang ayaw pangangin og laing tawo.
Dili si Bro.Eli ang Malipay bro kay asta siya walay pahuway sa pagsangyaw.
Sugo sa Ginoo nga isangyaw ang doctrina or maayong balita so ang malipay ang Ginoo.

Peace!

nah kadakong problema bya ana bro rc ky everybody proclaims that ang ila doctina ang sakto...
ako sa sakto sad na inyo for sure...

paetz

hahaha

[tripwire]

bro asa man intawon ka kuha ani nga 100% flesh ang human?

Please bro, separate yourself from basic understanding to complicated issues or even confuse yourself. Let me ask you, what is flesh means to your views or concept or definition? Put it in laymans terms aron sayon nato mahibaw-an. di ba, your intention to write a thread like this because you want us to know that Bible is Scientific? I am citing my views about what makes us humans in scientific form of nature... combining those organic minerals (borrowing brownproses' words) or chemical compounds would result to limbs, viens, skin, legs, arms, head, torso and the rest. Therefore, human is 100% flesh! No longer dust but pure flesh. tama ba?

flesh ba ang dugo bro? flesh ba ang luha? flesh ba ang laway?
gawas na lang siguro kung wala tay dugo, luha, og laway kay 100% flesh ta.
Bro ayaw na pun-i imo sayop kay pila ra pag-admit nga nalipat ka. dili nako balik-balikon imo sayop, promise.

Brod, this is what I am trying to tell Christians like you. Instead of learning and knowing what others offer, you're prejudiced and refuting other peoples ideas. I didn't say I am 100% correct bro... I am merely giving an alternative understanding. Honestly speaking, I don't know what to describe your personality because you are so defensive when it comes to giving an alternative answers. Instead of listening, you're not paying attention to what others say or do.

For discussion purposes, let me tell you why in our human form is made of flesh. Blood is composed 2 components cells and plasma... Plasma is the liquid portion of the blood. Blood cells like red blood cells float in the plasma. Also dissolved in plasma are electrolytes, nutrients and vitamins (absorbed from the intestines or produced by the body), hormones, clotting factors, and proteins such as albumin and immunoglobulins (antibodies to fight infection). Plasma distributes the substances it contains as it circulates throughout the body.

The cellular portion of blood contains red blood cells (RBCs), white blood cells (WBCs) and platelets. The RBCs carry oxygen from the lungs; the WBCs help to fight infection; and platelets are parts of cells that the body uses for clotting. All blood cells are produced in the bone marrow. As children, most of our bones produce blood. As we age this gradually diminishes to just the bones of the spine (vertebrae), breastbone (sternum), ribs, pelvis and small parts of the upper arm and leg. Bone marrow that actively produces blood cells is called red marrow, and bone marrow that no longer produces blood cells is called yellow marrow. The process by which the body produces blood is called hematopoiesis. All blood cells (RBCs, WBCs and platelets) come from the same type of cell, called the pluripotential hematopoietic stem cell. This group of cells has the potential to form any of the different types of blood cells and also to reproduce itself. Now do you understand why blood is also called flesh?

You can visit this site about saliva...http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks.../salivary.html

nya 100% flesh ang human? basahag balik imo quote kay "75 % of our bodies are composed of water." nya flesh diay ang water?

Bro, I am not giving an exact amount of water in our body... if it is 75% then that's good... I am close aren't I? Water in body is one of the components of our anatomy. Likewise, you're literally defining what water is all about. The water in us isn't the same water that you see dripping in faucets, or oceans, or rivers. Generally they are but water in our body is different and essential for us to move. When you drink water (tap water), you hydrate your entire nervous system and converted tap water into plasma. Do you get my ideas now? Still can't? I would suggest read more about blood maybe you will get what I meant. Or you can visit this site too, http://health.howstuffworks.com/blood1.htm.

I'm not merging bible to science but science to the bible because Science don't have spirits while bible has spirit and science.

Bro, I am not judging you for what you believe... science has no place to make the Bible scientific... The Bible was made for us humans to have faith in God. Tama ba? Although, your topic is actually merging scientific discoveries and Bible. Bible to Science or Science to Bible are more or less similar in logical terms... Science bro was formed to obtain objective approach not Biblical approach. okay, I think I wrote to much... salamat sa imong ideas too... makes us learn things. All is well bro, God bless.

[YJOB]

Kanus-a gud ka kadungog nga muingon si Bro. Eli nga maimpierno ang kaistorya niya?
Peace!

I hear him most of the time when he attacks other pastors.
Di diay ka moangkon nga everytime mamalikas si soriano sa iyang mga kontra it's just the same as saying go to hell?

Quit with your "Peace" signature cruman it's so contradicting with your statements.
Say peace to other people not to me because i don't believe you are sincere in saying "Peace"